syrian asylum seeker in germany filmed boasting of killing for isis..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3241889/Syrian-asylum-seeker-German-shelter-filmed-migrants-boasting-having-killed-ISIS.html

Police are investigating whether an asylum seeker living in Germany fought for Islamic State, it has been reported.
The Syrian man, who lives in a shelter in the north-east region of Brandenburg, allegedly told other refugees he had been a member of ISIS.
German newspaper Welt am Sonntag, reported that the man was filmed boasting about his blood-thirsty past.


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Que the lefties denials...

Tommy Monk wrote:Que the lefties denials...

One man? It's of no significance, even if it were true.

Move on.

One man means there could be others.

The police aren't "moving on" - what a stupid attitude to have.

How many would you need Quill, before you investigated it or not?

eddie wrote:One man means there could be others.

The police aren't "moving on" - what a stupid attitude to have.

How many would you need Quill, before you investigated it or not?

one is all it takes

So the Daily Mail once loved Hitler through its owner. Now it plays right into the hands of  the ISIS propaganda machine. Seriously they play up and exagerate the fear, which is exactly what ISIS wants. I mean look at this story, a hearsay story, of the possibility that an asylum seeker maybe an ISIS fighter. Which we know some have tried to infiltrate, some maybe be fleeing themselves. It could be there is no truth to this at all. What we do know is that the Daily Mail has become the puppet of ISIS. As why did a hearsay story even make a major  story for them when nothing has been confirmed? Because the Daily Mail also wants to fuel this fear, because it is anti-immigration and what better way to fuel this fear than by producing a climate of fear around refugees. It does not centre on the plight of 6 and half million Syrian Refugees, it instead actively seeks to provoke a fear in the populace with a view to denying helping these refugees. That is what is so disgusting is their real reason is being anti-immigration, so they stoke up fear. Anyway as I say we know some will get through, but like with any terror threat you do not allow it to change your life and daily routine. Seriously when the IRA were at their most active the nation in the main stood united and did not allow themselves to bow down to fear. Yes there was discrmination towards the Irish, but the British people were defiant and stood up to the terrorist threat. In comparrison to the IRA in Britain, the Islamic terrorists have had most of their attempts foiled.

Now what is different today, with Islamic terrorism then if it is less successful than the IRA that people are easily falling prey to fear?




People need to stop pandering to fear, of which is what both ISIS and the Daily Mail wants.

eddie wrote:One man means there could be others.

The police aren't "moving on" - what a stupid attitude to have.

How many would you need Quill, before you investigated it or not?

What is stupid is to get excited about one person's opinion.  Look, we've got tommy, smells, you, eds and nick--four warped minds--and do you see us panicking?    

Learn one thing, chicken-little: you can't generalize from specifics.  One person breaking the law is a police problem.  If he hasn't broken the law and been convicted, don't bother others about it.  Your knitting is more important.

If you are passionate about police problems, read the overnight bookings on-line.  You'll get a lot of drunks, if that's your thing.

Except you said five people - and counted me twice?

That's okay, I'll let you off.

Nems wrote:

eddie wrote:One man means there could be others.

The police aren't "moving on" - what a stupid attitude to have.

How many would you need Quill, before you investigated it or not?

one is all it takes

agree

Tip of the iceberg ...

Raggamuffin wrote:Tip of the iceberg ...

Was what cause the Titanic to sink?

Thin end of the wedge ...

let's face it what ever is truly discovered is normally the tip of the iceberg, it is obvious isis will use this golden opportunity to disperse in european countries and the eu is making it easy...

If we add the estimated number of ISIS type sympathizers in continental Europe to the accurately estimated 3000+ jihadists in the UK,the figure comes to 4000-5000+. But they are only the ones that we know about.

To make things worse for the security services,these people are not all fully trained up ISIS members which means their terrorist abilities in terms of bomb making for example are limited.

They have been specially selected by ISIS because of their lack of knowledge of tactical skills and lack of knowledge of the workings of ISIS.So if they are captured & interrogated by security services,they will genuinely not have much to say as they don't really know much.

Which means they will probably be released & when necessary,they can be trained up for particular terrorist roles which don't necessarily involve the actual attack.In other words,they could be used as mules to transport the individual components of a bomb or firearms or grenades etc to better trained bods who know what they are doing.

They most definitely need to be feared.

Raggamuffin wrote:Thin end of the wedge ...

Is how the Germans were defeated at Stalingrad?

Shady wrote:If we add the estimated number of ISIS type sympathizers in continental Europe to the accurately estimated 3000+ jihadists in the UK,the figure comes to 4000-5000+. But they are only the ones that we know about.

To make things worse for the security services,these people are not all fully trained up ISIS members which means their terrorist abilities in terms of bomb making for example are limited.

They have been specially selected by ISIS because of their lack of knowledge of tactical skills and lack of knowledge of the workings of ISIS.So if they are captured & interrogated by security services,they will genuinely not have much to say as they don't really know much.

Which means they will probably be released & when necessary,they can be trained up for particular terrorist roles which don't necessarily involve the actual attack.In other words,they could be used as mules to transport the individual components of a bomb or firearms or grenades etc to better trained bods who know what they are doing.

They most definitely need to be feared.

You can always count on Shady to fall prey and be suckered by the ISIS propaganda machine.
So Shady how can ISIS spare such large quantities of fighters being as they are on the defensive in most places in Syria and Iraq? I can understand some small groups infiltrating, but if we go off the claims of ISIS who said in January 4,000 had infiltrated and now again another 4,000 have infiltrated, would then bring this up to 8,000. Considering they have around 50,000 fighters in Syria and 30,000 in Iraq estimated, does this then not placed their position precariously in defending their Islamic State?

It seems all they have to do is say they have and people take their claims at face value, never stopping to think if they are pratical. I mean their ams have been achieved by just claiming they have. They have created a fear around refugees, who they do not want to go to Europe. So now borders are closing as well. There must be laughing their heads off at people like you, how you are so easily bought.

Shady wrote:If we add the estimated number of ISIS type sympathizers in continental Europe to the accurately estimated 3000+ jihadists in the UK,the figure comes to 4000-5000+. But they are only the ones that we know about.

To make things worse for the security services,these people are not all fully trained up ISIS members which means their terrorist abilities in terms of bomb making for example are limited.

They have been specially selected by ISIS because of their lack of knowledge of tactical skills and lack of knowledge of the workings of ISIS.So if they are captured & interrogated by security services,they will genuinely not have much to say as they don't really know much.

Which means they will probably be released & when necessary,they can be trained up for particular terrorist roles which don't necessarily involve the actual attack.In other words,they could be used as mules to transport the individual components of a bomb or firearms or grenades etc to better trained bods who know what they are doing.

They most definitely need to be feared.

that's why the saudi's want to build mosques in germany so they have somewhere to properly train the new isis converts....

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:

Shady wrote:If we add the estimated number of ISIS type sympathizers in continental Europe to the accurately estimated 3000+ jihadists in the UK,the figure comes to 4000-5000+. But they are only the ones that we know about.

To make things worse for the security services,these people are not all fully trained up ISIS members which means their terrorist abilities in terms of bomb making for example are limited.

They have been specially selected by ISIS because of their lack of knowledge of tactical skills and lack of knowledge of the workings of ISIS.So if they are captured & interrogated by security services,they will genuinely not have much to say as they don't really know much.

Which means they will probably be released & when necessary,they can be trained up for particular terrorist roles which don't necessarily involve the actual attack.In other words,they could be used as mules to transport the individual components of a bomb or firearms or grenades etc to better trained bods who know what they are doing.

They most definitely need to be feared.

that's why the saudi's want to build mosques in germany so they have somewhere to properly train the new isis converts....

That's partly correct HF but any terror unit worth its salt will not carry out explosives training within a mosque because in the event of a police raid,traces of explosives & other factors would be left behind & detected by police forensic officers...

They'll usually do that kind of training in remote safe areas.

Shady wrote:

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:

that's why the saudi's want to build mosques in germany so they have somewhere to properly train the new isis converts....

That's partly correct HF but any terror unit worth its salt will not carry out explosives training within a mosque because in the event of a police raid,traces of explosives & other factors would be left behind & detected by police forensic officers...

They'll usually do that kind of training in remote safe areas.

yes it stand to reason they wouldn't want to tarnish the religion of taking the peace with obvious explosions and shows of violence towards others...

that could make them look bad, probably more basic training would take place in mosques...

Cuchulain wrote:

Shady wrote:If we add the estimated number of ISIS type sympathizers in continental Europe to the accurately estimated 3000+ jihadists in the UK,the figure comes to 4000-5000+. But they are only the ones that we know about.

To make things worse for the security services,these people are not all fully trained up ISIS members which means their terrorist abilities in terms of bomb making for example are limited.

They have been specially selected by ISIS because of their lack of knowledge of tactical skills and lack of knowledge of the workings of ISIS.So if they are captured & interrogated by security services,they will genuinely not have much to say as they don't really know much.

Which means they will probably be released & when necessary,they can be trained up for particular terrorist roles which don't necessarily involve the actual attack.In other words,they could be used as mules to transport the individual components of a bomb or firearms or grenades etc to better trained bods who know what they are doing.

They most definitely need to be feared.

You can always count on Shady to fall prey and be suckered by the ISIS propaganda machine.
So Shady how can ISIS spare such large quantities of fighters being as they are on the defensive in most places in Syria and Iraq? I can understand some small groups infiltrating, but if we go off the claims of ISIS who said in January 4,000 had infiltrated and now again another 4,000 have infiltrated, would then bring this up to 8,000. Considering they have around 50,000 fighters in Syria and 30,000 in Iraq estimated, does this then not placed their position precariously in defending their Islamic State?

It seems all they have to do is say they have and people take their claims at face value, never stopping to think if they are pratical. I mean their ams have been achieved by just claiming they have. They have created a fear around refugees, who they do not want to go to Europe. So now borders are closing as well. There must be laughing their heads off at people like you, how you are so easily bought.

Well just to keep you happy,I'll answer your post as follows...

It's my 20+ years front line military knowledge versus yours.

Shady wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


You can always count on Shady to fall prey and be suckered by the ISIS propaganda machine.
So Shady how can ISIS spare such large quantities of fighters being as they are on the defensive in most places in Syria and Iraq? I can understand some small groups infiltrating, but if we go off the claims of ISIS who said in January 4,000 had infiltrated and now again another 4,000 have infiltrated, would then bring this up to 8,000. Considering they have around 50,000 fighters in Syria and 30,000 in Iraq estimated, does this then not placed their position precariously in defending their Islamic State?

It seems all they have to do is say they have and people take their claims at face value, never stopping to think if they are pratical. I mean their ams have been achieved by just claiming they have. They have created a fear around refugees, who they do not want to go to Europe. So now borders are closing as well. There must be laughing their heads off at people like you, how you are so easily bought.

Well just to keep you happy,I'll answer your post as follows...

It's my 20+ years front line military knowledge versus yours.

Well that makes your original post very poor indeed, as someone who claims to have such experince would surely check out these claims by scrutinising them and seeing how practical such a claim is. Not only that check to see if the claim has been made before which it has and folr some reason 4,000 fighters have been doing nothing in Europe for 9 months, which is a tad odd do you not think? I mean is it more likely that this is just a propaganda coup, of which its aim was to instill and ceate a fear around the refugees, of which it has succeeded. Like I say they have achieved this aim bY just claiming they have. Not only that they have the eyes of the world centred on the refugees. I am sure they used the opportunity to infiltrate some small groups of men, but they are not going to send thousands of fighters when they need them to fight for the lands they control are they?
So your 20 years just got shown up by a civvy.
So great that you have 20 years experince, but your 20 years does not answer my points does it?

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:

Hello again Dibs.

I had to smile at Didges post as well.

I see he hasn't changed at all.

Nems wrote:

eddie wrote:One man means there could be others.

The police aren't "moving on" - what a stupid attitude to have.

How many would you need Quill, before you investigated it or not?

one is all it takes

Well of course....everyone knows that don't they...?
Except Quill.

People keep asking how they'll be able to tell the good refugees from the bad ones.

I just wanted to ask, how do you tell this white British guy is a serial killer?



Does anybody here actually have some mysterious ability to tell whether people they don't know are dangerous or not?

dunno who he is...but I WOULDNT WANT TO SLEEP IN THE SAME BUILDING AS HIM.....
Those eyes say it all...the guy is a psyhch case......

Forensic officers are scouring remote woodland in Wiltshire following the discovery of a cache of women’s clothing. It included boots worn by a victim of taxi driver Christopher Halliwell, who killed Sian O’Callaghan, 22, after picking her up in his cab outside a Swindon nightclub in 2011.

Although her body was found more than 10 miles away in Oxfordshire, detectives now believe she was murdered in a secluded spot called Hilldrop Lane on the Marlborough Downs in Wiltshire.

Last month police found Miss O’Callaghan’s brown boots and a shotgun barrel in an 8ft deep pond near the woodland.

A cardigan was later found by the water’s edge and a search of the surrounding woods uncovered 60 items of women’s clothing buried under two inches of soil.

Officers have always feared that 50-year-old Halliwell had killed more victims and suspect he may have picked them up in his taxi before driving them to the isolated area at gunpoint.

The point is that all over the world, people have formed societies, and every society has dangerous people in it. You probably have violent people, native British, living closer to you than you'd like.

We can't tell them apart without evidence. That's life.

total lack of expression....
one eye slightly larger/more open than the other (apparantly comes with some brain dysfunction???)

and something about the area above his top lip to both sides of his nose ......

I'd be quite concerned having him around......

yeah BUT...

YOU asked..."Does anybody here actually have some mysterious ability to tell whether people they don't know are dangerous or not?"



and that was my reply....

nothing mysterious in that....just another reason to ban the burkah.

victorismyhero wrote:total lack of expression....
one eye slightly larger/more open than the other (apparantly comes with some brain dysfunction???)

and something about the area above his top lip to both sides of his nose ......

I'd be quite concerned having him around......

A Derbyshire man named Simon Saxton-Cooper murdered his wife and then blew up his house recently.



You're surrounded by native Brits who do bad things.

OK, guess what this weaselly little guy did?

Ben_Reilly wrote:OK, guess what this weaselly little guy did?

He clogged up the drains.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:OK, guess what this weaselly little guy did?

He clogged up the drains.

He murdered at least 12 men, had sex with their corpses, and probably did occasionally clog the toilet drain, as he cut several of them up and flushed their remains.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

He clogged up the drains.

He murdered at least 12 men, had sex with their corpses, and probably did occasionally clog the toilet drain, as he cut several of them up and flushed their remains.

It's how he was caught - he clogged up the drains.

Totally irrelevant to op And whole situation.

Tommy Monk wrote:Totally irrelevant to op And whole situation.

Yes it is Tommy. An interesting case though.

Ben_Reilly wrote:People keep asking how they'll be able to tell the good refugees from the bad ones.

I just wanted to ask, how do you tell this white British guy is a serial killer?



Does anybody here actually have some mysterious ability to tell whether people they don't know are dangerous or not?

Erm no. That's the whole point.....we don't know ?

You kinda made my point for me!

Look at the hordes of 'refugees' trying to break into Europe... overwhelmingly men... all looking well fed and well built... hardly any women or children...

Ben_Reilly wrote:People keep asking how they'll be able to tell the good refugees from the bad ones.

I just wanted to ask, how do you tell this white British guy is a serial killer?



Does anybody here actually have some mysterious ability to tell whether people they don't know are dangerous or not?

No Ben we don't have some mysterious ability which is why amongst many other reasons,the so called Muslim refugees should be prevented from entering Europe.Because they can't all be safely screened.

Which creates a massive risk.

eddie wrote:Except you said five people - and counted me twice?

That's okay, I'll let you off.

Quill wrote:Look, we've got tommy, smells, you, eds and nick--four warped minds--and do you see us panicking?

I said four:

1 - eds
2 - smells
3. - tommy
4 - nicko.

The point is that one person's opinion is irrelevant when it comes to worrying about a trend or movement.  If someone wants to shout 'ISIS' out the second story window, I won't care.

You guys keep worrying about Muslims. I'm much more concerned about Mormons. They are non-Christians, they have their own Mosques, and they don't let anyone in to inspect their activities. Who know how many guns they have stashed inside or what training activities they engage in.

And one of them just ran for president, FGS! There ought to be a law.

Original Quill wrote:You guys keep worrying about Muslims.  I'm much more concerned about Mormons.  They are non-Christians, they have their own Mosques, and they don't let anyone in to inspect their activities.  Who know how many guns they have stashed inside or what training activities they engage in.

And one of them just ran for president, FGS!  There ought to be a law.

Good evening Quill.

How many sky scrapers have the mormons flown aeroplanes into?

How many children have they tied to posts,raped in front of their parents who were then beheaded.

The Mountain Meadows massacre killed about 140 Arkansans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

Rape?  You are talking about Christian rapists, I trust?

Wiki wrote:The Mahmudiyah rape and killings involved the gang-rape and killing of 14-year-old Iraqi girl Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi and the murder of her family by coalition soldiers on March 12, 2006. It occurred in the family's house to the southwest of Yusufiyah, a village to the west of the town of Al-Mahmudiyah, Iraq. The deceased of al-Janabi's family included her 34-year-old mother Fakhriyah Taha Muhsin, 45-year-old father Qasim Hamza Raheem, and six-year-old sister Hadeel Qasim Hamza.

Original Quill wrote:The Mountain Meadows massacre killed about 140 Arkansans.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

Rape?  You are talking about Christian rapists, I trust?

Wiki wrote:The Mahmudiyah rape and killings involved the gang-rape and killing of 14-year-old Iraqi girl Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi and the murder of her family by coalition soldiers on March 12, 2006. It occurred in the family's house to the southwest of Yusufiyah, a village to the west of the town of Al-Mahmudiyah, Iraq. The deceased of al-Janabi's family included her 34-year-old mother Fakhriyah Taha Muhsin, 45-year-old father Qasim Hamza Raheem, and six-year-old sister Hadeel Qasim Hamza.

Ahhh the leftie smoke screen.You got that smoke up pretty fast Mr.Quill.

Obviously you feel that ISIS rapists are better people than other rapists.Perhaps you may get the chance to chat to some Syrian girls one day.

Shady wrote:

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:

Hello again Dibs.

I had to smile at Didges post as well.

I see he hasn't changed at all.

lol I still see you are running scared from debate and your your claim and credibility to 20 years experince is on the line buddy.

No worries if you are happy for a civillian to show you up on such matters Shady is fine by me.

You can of course address the points I made or continue to come up with more feeble excuses.

Either way I am happy

Shady wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:People keep asking how they'll be able to tell the good refugees from the bad ones.

I just wanted to ask, how do you tell this white British guy is a serial killer?



Does anybody here actually have some mysterious ability to tell whether people they don't know are dangerous or not?

No Ben we don't have some mysterious ability which is why amongst many other reasons,the so called Muslim refugees should be prevented from entering Europe.Because they can't all be safely screened.

Which creates a massive risk.

lol so thousands of Syrian Muslims fleeing from persecution should just be denied help because you were gullible to the ISIS propaganda machine then? Or your real reason is you are using this as an excuse because your real intention is you hate Muslims?
So since the claim of ISIS infiltating 4,000 Jihadi's to Europe since January, please explain to the forum why there has been no sign of them? I mean why have we not see countless terrorist attacks?
Is it then more proable that you have been taken in by a propaganda coup?
That its intent is to have the west deny a safe haven for these refugees?
Is it possible that your limited intelligence cannot think further than a grunt and an ugh?
So you are basically using this as an excuse to deny people in need of help.
The reality is ISIS can far more easily infiltrate ISIS fighters who are citizens of EU nations, of which they have alreay been doing.
I am sure they have sent some with the refugees, but their task is harder than to send those who are citizens.
So unless you want to close all the borderes which would cripple our economy, which would play into the hands of ISIS, there is little chance of stopping their fighters coming to the EU. All you are doing is using this as an excuse to deny people in need of help sanctuary. Not only that all ISIS fighters have to do if you stop Syrian Muslims, is claim they are Christian or another minority religion. You see your limited knowledge is really being shown up for the sham it is. Or more to the point you are just a mere grunt who only has limited tactical ability to a combat sphere of operations. When it comes to strategy, well lets face it as seen your views are very much that of an imbicille.

Original Quill wrote:

eddie wrote:Except you said five people - and counted me twice?

That's okay, I'll let you off.

Quill wrote:Look, we've got tommy, smells, you, eds and nick--four warped minds--and do you see us panicking?

I said four:

1 - eds
2 - smells
3. - tommy
4 - nicko.

The point is that one person's opinion is irrelevant when it comes to worrying about a trend or movement.  If someone wants to shout 'ISIS' out the second story window, I won't care.

Watch your grammar - you posted as if eddie was a separate person to "you".

Original Quill wrote:You guys keep worrying about Muslims.  I'm much more concerned about Mormons.  They are non-Christians, they have their own Mosques, and they don't let anyone in to inspect their activities.  Who know how many guns they have stashed inside or what training activities they engage in.

And one of them just ran for president, FGS!  There ought to be a law.

You think that Mormons are not Christians? That's interesting.

He thinks the only people who aren't linked to Islam are Muslims...

Original Quill wrote:

eddie wrote:Except you said five people - and counted me twice?

That's okay, I'll let you off.

Quill wrote:Look, we've got tommy, smells, you, eds and nick--four warped minds--and do you see us panicking?

I said four:

1 - eds
2 - smells
3. - tommy
4 - nicko.

The point is that one person's opinion is irrelevant when it comes to worrying about a trend or movement.  If someone wants to shout 'ISIS' out the second story window, I won't care.

Who was the "you" then?