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Post by Lurker Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:41 pm

According to a new report from Human Rights Watch (HRW), aggressive police harassment in New Orleans is directly undermining the city’s efforts to prevent and treat HIV infections. Despite the fact that Louisiana has one of the highest rates of HIV/AIDS in the nation — in fact, the number of people dying from AIDS in the state is more than double the national average — the report claims that it “has chosen punishment over public health” for the marginalized communities at risk for infection, such as sex workers and drug users.

Specifically, law enforcement officials are cracking down on prostitution in a way that HRW believes is actually encouraging the spread of HIV. New Orleans is so intent on identifying potential sex workers that it allows cops to prosecute “loitering for prostitution,” an incredibly vague statute that results in arbitrarily targeting people in public. Officers randomly stop people who they deem suspicious and search them for evidence of prostitution — and, if they find condoms, that can be enough for an arrest.



http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/12/16/3068621/police-harassment-sex-workers-louisiana/
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Post by Guest Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:05 pm

I think that is one of the most insane things I have heard recently.

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:13 pm

The height of stupidity.
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Post by Guest Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:17 pm

Sassy wrote:I think that is one of the most insane things I have heard recently.

Population control?

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Post by Cantankerous Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:01 am

Lurker wrote:
According to a new report from Human Rights Watch (HRW), aggressive police harassment in New Orleans is directly undermining the city’s efforts to prevent and treat HIV infections. Despite the fact that Louisiana has one of the highest rates of HIV/AIDS in the nation — in fact, the number of people dying from AIDS in the state is more than double the national average — the report claims that it “has chosen punishment over public health” for the marginalized communities at risk for infection, such as sex workers and drug users.

Specifically, law enforcement officials are cracking down on prostitution in a way that HRW believes is actually encouraging the spread of HIV. New Orleans is so intent on identifying potential sex workers that it allows cops to prosecute “loitering for prostitution,” an incredibly vague statute that results in arbitrarily targeting people in public. Officers randomly stop people who they deem suspicious and search them for evidence of prostitution — and, if they find condoms, that can be enough for an arrest.



http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/12/16/3068621/police-harassment-sex-workers-louisiana/
is this from one of those joke websites like the onion.

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Post by Lurker Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:08 am

Sadly, no, it's real.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:27 am

Lurker wrote:
According to a new report from Human Rights Watch (HRW), aggressive police harassment in New Orleans is directly undermining the city’s efforts to prevent and treat HIV infections. Despite the fact that Louisiana has one of the highest rates of HIV/AIDS in the nation — in fact, the number of people dying from AIDS in the state is more than double the national average — the report claims that it “has chosen punishment over public health” for the marginalized communities at risk for infection, such as sex workers and drug users.

Specifically, law enforcement officials are cracking down on prostitution in a way that HRW believes is actually encouraging the spread of HIV. New Orleans is so intent on identifying potential sex workers that it allows cops to prosecute “loitering for prostitution,” an incredibly vague statute that results in arbitrarily targeting people in public. Officers randomly stop people who they deem suspicious and search them for evidence of prostitution — and, if they find condoms, that can be enough for an arrest.



http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/12/16/3068621/police-harassment-sex-workers-louisiana/

From that article it seems the Louisiana police need policing. This crackdown is to get the sex workers off the street, but it wont.

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Post by veya_victaous Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:48 am

a stupid law to crack down on a stupid law.

If it there were legal brothels there wouldn't be street walkers, here they disappeared when I was still a kid. but about every 3rd suburb has brothels and there are a number around the CBDs and 'party' areas. but they are so discreet a lot of them you would even know are there. but we are not as hung up about sex here, you get topless waitresses in most 'tradie' pubs.
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Post by veya_victaous Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:51 am

@Lurker
So, u r allowed to carry a gun but not condoms? Suspect Suspect Suspect 
Cause that is pretty fucked up  No No No 

... no wonder so many of your cops get shot, enforcing stupid laws on armed peoples.
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Post by captain Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:07 am

Maybe there needs to be some amendments made. Not only with who owns a gun but how the law enforcements are permitted to behave while doing their paid duty in protecting the public.
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:26 pm

Yes it the same thing here in England. If you go to the red light districts of London,Manchester or another city. The police are out looking for prostitutes to arrest as soliciting is illegal here. So if they see a woman walking around the vice district with condoms in her bag, they think she is a prostitute as they carry Durex. So you can be arrested for soliciting.

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:54 pm

Andrea Borman wrote:Yes it the same thing here in England. If you go to the red light districts of London,Manchester or another city. The police are out looking for prostitutes to arrest as soliciting is illegal here. So if they see a woman walking around the vice district with condoms in her bag, they think she is a prostitute as they carry Durex. So you can be arrested for soliciting.

Just another form of profiling -- that's done wonders for the New York police ...
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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:56 pm

Officers randomly stop people who they deem suspicious and search them for evidence of prostitution — and, if they find condoms, that can be enough for an arrest.

The condoms don't have to be in plain view; the police can stop people for anything "they deem suspicious."
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:33 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Officers randomly stop people who they deem suspicious and search them for evidence of prostitution — and, if they find condoms, that can be enough for an arrest.

The condoms don't have to be in plain view; the police can stop people for anything "they deem suspicious."

Ah yes, 'sus laws' lead to a shed load of problems in England.

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:50 pm

I can only imagine -- they are so vague that anything can be construed as suspicious. Are you an unmarried male schoolteacher? You must be a pedo (just one example that is pretty common here in the States).
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Post by Cantankerous Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:00 am

Lurker wrote:Sadly, no, it's real.
get back, I have a packet of 3 and I'm not afraid to use them
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Post by Cantankerous Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:02 am

Beekeeper wrote:Surprised   LET'S not forget that just up the road in places like Colorado, Kansas and Kentucky 12 year olds can carry guns in public as long as they have their parent's permission...

And buy their own guns once they're OVER 16 years old (as was seen in last weeks latest school shooting..) ~ they don't even need licenses in four of those redneck states !

IN Florida and Texas they let murderers off the hook for shooting people in cold blood ~ as long as the victims are black or coloured, and the perp' is a white moron being lauded by the NRA and the Faux News network as some sort of "All American Hero" ??

They can join the military once they turn 17, and be sent overseas as "cannon fodder" once they're over 18  ~ but still can't legally buy alcohol until they turn 21 !!

And NOW Louisiana imagines that they can crack down on streetwalkers by outlawing condoms ???

THOSE rednecks in the deep south and mid-west regions really ARE off on another planet, aren't they !    Rolling Eyes
and in other states they let murderers off if they can't put on a pair of gloves if they's black.
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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:55 am

I hardly think the one time that ever happened was due to the fact that OJ pretended not to be able to put the gloves on. Serious analysis suggests the jury was unable to understand the DNA evidence used at the trial, which is somewhat understandable since it was one of the first high-profile trials ever to use DNA evidence.
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Post by Original Quill Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:49 am

captainJane wrote:Maybe there needs to be some amendments made. Not only with who owns a gun but how the law enforcements are permitted to behave while doing their paid duty in protecting the public.

Fat chance that! You can't even get ordinary legislation passed on gun control.

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Post by Original Quill Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:59 am

Cantankerous wrote:
Beekeeper wrote:Surprised   LET'S not forget that just up the road in places like Colorado, Kansas and Kentucky 12 year olds can carry guns in public as long as they have their parent's permission...

And buy their own guns once they're OVER 16 years old (as was seen in last weeks latest school shooting..) ~ they don't even need licenses in four of those redneck states !

IN Florida and Texas they let murderers off the hook for shooting people in cold blood ~ as long as the victims are black or coloured, and the perp' is a white moron being lauded by the NRA and the Faux News network as some sort of "All American Hero" ??

They can join the military once they turn 17, and be sent overseas as "cannon fodder" once they're over 18  ~ but still can't legally buy alcohol until they turn 21 !!

And NOW Louisiana imagines that they can crack down on streetwalkers by outlawing condoms ???

THOSE rednecks in the deep south and mid-west regions really ARE off on another planet, aren't they !    Rolling Eyes
and in other states they let murderers off if they can't put on a  pair of gloves if they's black.

Even while they let white crackers write their own alabi and walk out completely free...

Oh yeah, so sorry to have inconvenienced you, George...spousal abusing asshole.

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