Six Months for burning a baby alive

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:19 pm

Israel Has Jailed a Jewish Extremist for Six Months Without Trial

The Defense Minister signed an order that jails extremist Mordechai Meyer

(JERUSALEM) — Israel has jailed a Jewish extremist for six months without charges or trial, expanding a crackdown against militant Jews and deploying a contentious measure typically used for Palestinians suspected of staging attacks.
This was the first time the measure, known as administrative detention, was applied against an Israeli since the crackdown began following a pair of deadly attacks last week.
Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon signed an order late Tuesday that jailed extremist Mordechai Meyer, from the West Bank settlement of Maaleh Adumim, for six months.
A statement from Yaalon’s office said Meyer, 18, was being held in connection to “his involvement in violent activities and recent terror attacks.”

http://time.com/3985207/jewish-extremism-west-bank-attack/

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They give Palestinians children 10 years for throwing stones. Fucking bastards!

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:20 pm

Not enough and lets be honest you deserve time for your hate also.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:22 pm

Fuck off you Zionist arse licking racist scum.

by Raggamuffin Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:23 pm

Hasn't he been jailed for something else?

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:23 pm

Ahh the words from a racist fuckwit
She fails to see she is racist also
What a fuckwit

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:25 pm

This from a man who doesn't believe in fighting back if your country is invaded and colonised. If Hitler had landed here during the last war Didge would have put the kettle on and told people they were terrorists if they fought back. Cowardly and yellow, right down the centre of his spine.

by Raggamuffin Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:26 pm

Sassy, hasn't he been jailed for setting fire to a church or something? there's nothing to suggest that's all he'll get if he did it, or if he did kill the baby. He hasn't been tried yet.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:27 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Hasn't he been jailed for something else?

No, they called it terrorist activity. The activity was burning the baby to death and now his father has died. Nothing every happens to Israeli's, no matter what atrocities they perform.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:27 pm

Sassy has the audacity to call me racist when she backs a government that discriminates against women for example.
It proves sassy is scum because she does not care for them. she only wishes to promote hate

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:27 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Sassy, hasn't he been jailed for setting fire to a church or something? there's nothing to suggest that's all he'll get if he did it, or if he did kill the baby. He hasn't been tried yet.

No he hasn't, he was arrested in relation to the burning of the baby.

by Raggamuffin Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:28 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Hasn't he been jailed for something else?

No, they called it terrorist activity. The activity was burning the baby to death and now his father has died. Nothing every happens to Israeli's, no matter what atrocities they perform.

But they don't know if this chap actually did that do they?

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:29 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:

No, they called it terrorist activity. The activity was burning the baby to death and now his father has died. Nothing every happens to Israeli's, no matter what atrocities they perform.

But they don't know if this chap actually did that do they?

They don't want to know, that is why they have given him six months without trial, they don't want a public trial.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:29 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Sassy, hasn't he been jailed for setting fire to a church or something? there's nothing to suggest that's all he'll get if he did it, or if he did kill the baby. He hasn't been tried yet.

No he hasn't, he was arrested in relation to the burning of the baby.

How many Palestinians have bee arrested for hate crimes?"

by Raggamuffin Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:30 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

But they don't know if this chap actually did that do they?

They don't want to know, that is why they have given him six months without trial, they don't want a public trial.

They're still investigating.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:30 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

But they don't know if this chap actually did that do they?

They don't want to know, that is why they have given him six months without trial, they don't want a public trial.

What a twat and leftist appeasement.
They do not need to know?
Fuck off you left wing scum

by Original Quill Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:31 pm

That's the "administrative detention" part. I'm wondering if there is additional after a trial.

We don't have administrative detention in this country, but we do have 'no-bail' detention.

by Raggamuffin Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:31 pm

Don't they do the same thing to some Palestinians too?

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:32 pm

No Didge, they don't want to know and they don't want facts getting out being the IDF and the Government help them.

You fuck off you spineless Zionist wimp, who would hand over his country and never fight back.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:33 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Don't they do the same thing to some Palestinians too?

No, as I said, boys get 10 years for throwing stones, men are put in detention which, as soon as it comes to an end, is renewed, without ever having charges brought against them.

by Raggamuffin Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:34 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Don't they do the same thing to some Palestinians too?

No, as I said, boys get 10 years for throwing stones, men are put in detention which, as soon as it comes to an end, is renewed, without ever having charges brought against them.

Well maybe more will come of this if they can prove he did those things.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:38 pm

Not a chance. The Palestinians knew that when they arrested him.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:39 pm

sassy wrote:Not a chance. The Palestinians knew that when they arrested him.

As i proved, sassy does not care about others

by Raggamuffin Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:40 pm

sassy wrote:Not a chance. The Palestinians knew that when they arrested him.

I thought the Israelis arrested him.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:41 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:Not a chance. The Palestinians knew that when they arrested him.

I thought the Israelis arrested him.

Oh my, do not confuse her, she is as thick as shit

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:47 pm

Didge, the irrelevant, know-nothing, arse licking yellow bellied spineless zionist wimp, who would never fight if his country was invaded and would call people who did terrorists. Pond life is higher.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:49 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:Not a chance. The Palestinians knew that when they arrested him.

I thought the Israelis arrested him.

Yep, but he has been given 6 months without trial and will quietly be let out afterwards.

by Raggamuffin Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:52 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I thought the Israelis arrested him.

Yep, but he has been given 6 months without trial and will quietly be let out afterwards.

Well we don't know what he's done yet Sassy.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:55 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:

Yep, but he has been given 6 months without trial and will quietly be let out afterwards.

Well we don't know what he's done yet Sassy.

Rags, that's the whole point. They have detained him without trial for 6 months because they know what would happen if they delved into what the settlers are doing. They don't want it all coming out.

by Raggamuffin Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:56 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Well we don't know what he's done yet Sassy.

Rags, that's the whole point. They have detained him without trial for 6 months because they know what would happen if they delved into what the settlers are doing. They don't want it all coming out.

Maybe they just want him off the streets whilst they investigate.

by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:57 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:

Rags, that's the whole point. They have detained him without trial for 6 months because they know what would happen if they delved into what the settlers are doing. They don't want it all coming out.

Maybe they just want him off the streets whilst they investigate.

No, that isn't what is going on, it's not something that Israeli's do.

Now I have things to do.

by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:11 am

sassy wrote:Didge, the irrelevant, know-nothing, arse licking yellow bellied spineless zionist wimp, who would never fight if his country was invaded and would call people who did terrorists. Pond life is higher.

by Original Quill Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:21 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Maybe they just want him off the streets whilst they investigate.

No, that isn't what is going on, it's not something that Israeli's do.

Now I have things to do.

It's a fair point, sass: They put him away briefly, so they can put the the whole issue to rest, making it go away by attrition. But it would be better if there was some proof that this is the program.

Are there any other cases where a light administrative detention for a serious crime (by an Israeli) was not followed up by trial?

by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:24 pm

There is no evidence this is the person who carried out the murder of the baby and father. When they do catch who did this they will get life imprisonment. He has been contained because they believe he has been involved in violent activities.

by Original Quill Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:28 pm

Cuchulain wrote:There is no evidence this is the person who carried out the murder of the baby and father. When they do catch who did this they will get life imprisonment. He has been contained because they believe he has been involved in violent activities.

So, what you are saying is he had nothing to do with this crime.

His detention is for other activities completely unrelated?

The OP says:

Time wrote:
A statement from Yaalon’s office said Meyer, 18, was being held in connection to “his involvement in violent activities and recent terror attacks.”

* * * *

On Friday, suspected Jewish extremists torched a West Bank home, an arson attack in which a Palestinian toddler was burned to death and his parents and 4-year-old brother were seriously wounded. A day earlier, an anti-gay ultra-Orthodox man stabbed six people at Jerusalem’s Gay Pride parade, and one of them — a 16-year-old girl — later died of her wounds.

Is it a case simply of lack of evidence?

by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:35 pm

Point 1) Never stated that he did not, he could well be, but they need evidence to convict, surely someone of your knowledge would understand this.

Point 2) From the article:
A statement from Yaalon’s office said Meyer, 18, was being held in connection to “his involvement in violent activities and recent terror attacks.”

by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:37 pm

More from the link:

The ministry would not elaborate on the suspicions against him but Israel’s internal security agency Shin Bet said Meyer was among five people arrested in connection with the arson attack against an important church in northern Israel in June, although he was not indicted.
Meyer was also suspected of links to attacks against another church in Jerusalem, as well as attacks on Palestinian property, the agency said, adding that he had previously been banned from the West Bank and Jerusalem. The Shin Bet declined to comment on whether Meyer was connected to last week’s attack on a Palestinian home.

by eddie Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:40 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:

Yep, but he has been given 6 months without trial and will quietly be let out afterwards.

Well we don't know what he's done yet Sassy.

Rags, that's the whole point. They have detained him without trial for 6 months because they know what would happen if they delved into what the settlers are doing. They don't want it all coming out.

Is that really true?!
Oh my god that poor poor baby.

I can't take this type of thing Sad

by Original Quill Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:42 pm

Didge wrote:Point 1) Never stated that he did not, he could well be, but they need evidence to convict,

Two outta three ain't bad. He's Shin Bet, and Shin Bet is responsible for starting fires that kill people.

There's a good chance he's being held effectively on what would otherwise be called a 'no-bond' warrant.

by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:43 pm

Israel releases suspects held in raid linked to deadly firebombing

JERUSALEM (AFP) -- Israel has released all suspects detained in raids as part of a probe into the firebombing of a Palestinian home that killed an 18-month-old child and his father, Israeli authorities said Monday.
They did not provide the number of those detained in the raids early Sunday in Jewish settlement outposts in the occupied West Bank near the Palestinian village of Duma, where the July 31 firebombing occurred.Outposts in the Israeli-occupied West Bank are notorious for housing young Jewish hardliners, referred to as hilltop youth."All those arrested yesterday for interrogation have been released," a spokeswoman for the Shin Bet domestic security agency told AFP, without providing further details.The raids came as Israel seeks to crack down on Jewish extremists following the firebombing that also critically wounded the toddler's mother and four-year-old brother.The attack has led to pressure on the government to act against Jewish extremists accused of being behind a series of hate crimes and nationalist attacks, including a stabbing attack at a Gay Pride parade in West Jerusalem last month that killed a 16-year-old girl and wounded five people.Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has labelled the firebombing "terrorism" and pledged to use all legal means to track down the perpetrators.However, many Palestinians have pointed out that Israeli government policies -- including support for settlement expansion and frequent impunity for settlers -- allowed for the firebombing to take place.In addition to Sunday's raids, three alleged Jewish extremists have been placed in a controversial form of detention without trial usually used for Palestinians.Over 85 percent of investigations into settler violence are closed without indictments, Israeli rights group Yesh Din says.The 100 or so Jewish outposts in the occupied West Bank are not officially recognized by the Israeli government but receive support and assistance from government ministries.Since occupying the West Bank and East Jerusalem in 1967, Israel has built over 125 Jewish-only settlements across the territories with a settler population of over 500,000, in contravention of international law.

https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=766957

Quill, you are working under a false presumption. Israel have detention without trial, which can continue indefinitely and is not done to allow investigations, many Palestinians have been in jail for years with no charges brought against them.

by Original Quill Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:50 pm

sassy wrote:Quill, you are working under a false presumption. Israel have detention without trial, which can continue indefinitely and is not done to allow investigations, many Palestinians have been in jail for years with no charges brought against them.

I admit I don't understand. I am struggling to make sense of all this.

What your article says above is,

maannews wrote:
Israel has released all suspects detained in raids as part of a probe into the firebombing of a Palestinian home that killed an 18-month-old child and his father,

So, unless he was among those detained (and since released), he stands apart. Thus, he may be suspected, and is being held on administrative detention until they develop probable cause to go to trial.

We don't have administrative detention, but it is the kind of thing that a prosecutor would do if that tool were available.

by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:04 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:Point 1) Never stated that he did not, he could well be, but they need evidence to convict,

Two outta three ain't bad. He's Shin Bet, and Shin Bet is responsible for starting fires that kill people.

There's a good chance he's being held effectively on what would otherwise be called a 'no-bond' warrant.

We do not know if he has Quill, you are speculating and badly so

by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:09 pm

Separately, Israel has put three alleged Jewish militants in a controversial form of detention without trial since the crackdown began after the Duma attack.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-33849715

by Original Quill Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:11 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Two outta three ain't bad. He's Shin Bet, and Shin Bet is responsible for starting fires that kill people.

There's a good chance he's being held effectively on what would otherwise be called a 'no-bond' warrant.

We do not know if he has Quill, you are speculating...

Is there an echo in this room? I just said that.

by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:13 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

We do not know if he has Quill, you are speculating...

Is there an echo in this room? I just said that.

How inane as per usual.

Move along you have obviously have no rational view point

by Original Quill Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:16 pm

eddie wrote:Let's just leave all personal insults at the door.
I don't understand why there's so much venom?

We were talking about this case involving someone named Meyer and the death of a 6-month old baby.

by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:19 pm

If we are talking justice:

Every society has murderers and extremists who would kill even children. The test of a society’s morality is how it responds to those murderers. Israel loathes, ostracizes and prosecutes Israeli terrorists who murder Palestinian children. The Palestinian Authority honors, embraces and rewards Palestinian terrorists who murder Israeli children.

Last Friday, a terrorist, apparently an Israeli, set fire to a Palestinian home, killing an 18-month-old boy. The arson and murder has been condemned by Israel’s prime minister, president, political and religious leaders and everyone who has spoken about it. When the murderer is found, he will be prosecuted and will spend the rest of his life in prison.

On March 11, 2011, five members of the Fogel family were killed in their home by Palestinian terrorists from the Awad family. Hakim Awad led the attack, killing the parents, Ehud and Ruth, and three of their children, aged 11, four and two months.

From the day Awad was arrested, the PA rewarded him with a monthly salary, which eventually will reach $3,000 a month, four times the average Palestinian civil servant’s salary. Official PA TV then invited his mother and aunt to talk on the PA TV program dedicated to honoring and sending greetings to imprisoned terrorists. They referred to Awad and his accomplices as “heroes” and Hakim Awad himself was called “the hero, the legend.” The PA TV host added: “We, for our part, also convey our greetings to them.”

Dalal Mughrabi led a terrorist attack in which 12 children and 25 adults were murdered in a bus hijacking. To teach Palestinian children the value it places on murdering a large number of Israeli children, the PA has named dozens of places in her honor, including three schools, summer camps, sporting events, a town square and much more.

PA President Mahmoud Abbas himself funded a computer center named after her and sponsored a birthday party in her honor, as the banner shown on PA TV highlighted: “Under the auspices of President Mahmoud Abbas: The Political and National Education Authority Ceremony on the anniversary of the birth of the bride of the cosmos, The Martyr Dalal Mughrabi.”

On March 29, 2002, 17-year-old suicide bomber Ayyat Akhras murdered a 17-year-old Israeli girl named Rachel Levy. To make sure Palestinian children understand how valuable it is to murder Israeli teens, the PA placed a picture of Akhras over the door of the Artas High School for Girls near Bethlehem. The caption to the picture reads: “The Heroic Martyr.”

In May 2013, Palestinian Media Watch reported that official PA TV had honored three Palestinian terrorists responsible for many gruesome suicide bombings that in all claimed the lives of 156 Israeli civilians, including many children. The bombings included the Passover Seder bombing, killing 31; Sbarro restaurant bombing, 15 (eight children); Hebrew University, 9; Cafe Moment, 12; Cafe Hillel, 7; Zion Square in Jerusalem, 11.

PA TV responded the next week with outrage at PMW: “Palestinian Media Watch... slandered these heroes and claimed that they are terrorists... If they see Abdallah Barghouti [67 life sentences] as a terrorist, Abbas al-Sayid [35 life sentences] as a terrorist and Ibrahim Hamed [54 life sentences], if they see all these prisoners as terrorists - we see them as heroes... I salute you, all you heroic fighter prisoners, and of course, I always wish you freedom” [PA TV (Fatah), June 27, 2013].

Last October, a Palestinian terrorist drove his car into a light-rail station in Jerusalem, killing three-month-old Chaya Zissel Brown and 22-year-old Karen Mosquera of Ecuador, and wounding seven others. He was shot and killed by police while attempting to escape. The next day Fatah, headed by Mahmoud Abbas, honored the murderer as a hero on its Facebook page: “The Palestinian National Liberation Movement, Fatah... accompanies to his wedding the heroic Martyr Abd Al-Rahman Al-Shaloudi, who carried out the Jerusalem operation, in which settlers in the occupied city of Jerusalem were run over. Rest in peace, we are loyal to you.”

Describing his death as a wedding indicates that Fatah believes that killing three-month-old Jewish children is what Allah wants and Islam demands, and that the murderer is being rewarded with 72 dark-eyed virgins in paradise.

A few weeks later, four rabbis were butchered in a synagogue during morning prayers by two Palestinian terrorists. Abbas’s adviser, Sultan Abu Einein, immediately posted pictures on his personal Facebook page of the pools of blood and the murdered rabbis still wearing their bloodied prayer shawls, which he captioned as “pictures from the scene of the heroic operation.” The next day, to assure Palestinians understood that murdering Jews is not only a “heroic” Palestinian nationalist act but also an Islamic imperative, he added these words: “Blessed be your quality weapons, the wheels of your cars, your axes and kitchen knives... it’s according to Allah’s will. We are the soldiers of Allah.”

Since the PA was established Israelis have murdered two Palestinian children. The Israeli government presents these murderers of Palestinian children as immoral outcasts. In the same period Palestinian terrorists have murdered close to 200 Israeli children. The PA presents these murderers of Israeli children as heroes and role models and as fulfilling Islam.

This by itself captures the essence of the immorality of the PA and highlights the myth of a “moderate” PA. As long as the PA teaches its children and adults that it is heroic, rewarded and ordered by Islam to murder Jews, a Palestinian peace partner has yet to emerge, Palestinian terrorism will continue and a peace process has yet to begin.

[http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Murdering-Jewish-children-is-for-Allah-according-to-the-Palestinian-Authority-411334]

by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:34 pm

Original Quill wrote:
sassy wrote:Quill, you are working under a false presumption. Israel have detention without trial, which can continue indefinitely and is not done to allow investigations, many Palestinians have been in jail for years with no charges brought against them.

I admit I don't understand. I am struggling to make sense of all this.

What your article says above is,
maannews wrote:
Israel has released all suspects detained in raids as part of a probe into the firebombing of a Palestinian home that killed an 18-month-old child and his father,

So, unless he was among those detained (and since released), he stands apart. Thus, he may be suspected, and is being held on administrative detention until they develop probable cause to go to trial.

We don't have administrative detention, but it is the kind of thing that a prosecutor would do if that tool were available.

Administrative detention is not followed by a trial, it is followed either by release (as there is a 99.999% chance will happen in this case) or by a continuence of the detention. It is under military law and a trial does not happen.

by Original Quill Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:08 pm

sassy wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I admit I don't understand. I am struggling to make sense of all this.

What your article says above is,

So, unless he was among those detained (and since released), he stands apart. Thus, he may be suspected, and is being held on administrative detention until they develop probable cause to go to trial.

We don't have administrative detention, but it is the kind of thing that a prosecutor would do if that tool were available.

Administrative detention is not followed by a trial, it is followed either by release (as there is a 99.999% chance will happen in this case) or by a continuence of the detention. It is under military law and a trial does not happen.

Well, I'm not sure it's the old POW rule. In times of war, removal meant keeping the soldier from returning to the fighting. But it is meaningless if you define the war as endless, as we see by Guantanamo.

If administrative detention is under any system of law, then it has to have due process. Why the detention? Under what conditions? When or for how long? It is generally not used for punishment, or it is not administrative detention.

But getting back to the case in point, it does not appear to be inconsistent with holding for trial. Do you have any facts showing that Meyer will not be held for trial? The real point you are alleging is that administrative detention is being used in lieu of trial and punishment. In order to make that case, you will have to show that he is guaranteed release from all legal jeopardy in six months. Otherwise it's speculation.

by Guest Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:18 pm

Administrative detention is arrest and detention of individuals by the state without trial, usually for security reasons. A large number of countries,^[1] both democratic and undemocratic, resort to administrative detention as a means to combat terrorism, to control illegal immigration, or to protect the ruling regime.
Unlike criminal incarceration (imprisonment) imposed upon conviction following a trial, administrative detention is a forward-looking mechanism. While criminal proceedings have a retrospective focus – they seek to determine whether a defendant committed an offense in the past – the reasoning behind administrative detention often is based upon contentions that the suspect is likely to pose a threat in the future. It is meant to be preventive in nature rather than punitive (see preventive detention). The practice has been criticized by human rights organizations as a breach of civil and political rights.

The legal basis for Israel's use of Administrative Detention is the British Mandate 1945 Defence (Emergency) Regulations which were amended in 1979 to form the Israeli Law on Authority in States of Emergency. Administrative detention is often used for indefinite detention of Palestinian political prisoners.^[20] It seems to be mainly used by Israel against individuals not engaged in violent activities.^[21] Administrative detention is also used in cases where the available evidence consists of information obtained by the security services (particularly the Shin Bet), and where a trial would reveal sensitive security information, such as the identities of informers or infiltrators.
Although it is commonly applied to alleged Palestinian militants, it has occasionally been applied to Jewish Israeli citizens, including Jewish right-wing public-figures and activists (e.g. in the aftermath of the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin) and in more recent years sometimes to settlers for short periods.^[22]
Within Israel, the Defense Minister has the authority to issue Administrative Detention orders for up to 6 months in cases where there is a reasonable chance that the person harms the security of the state. The same Minister has the authority to renew such orders. Likewise, the Chief of the General Staff can issue such orders, but valid for only 48 hours. Law enforcement authorities have to show cause within 48 hours (in a hearing behind closed doors). Administrative Detention orders can be appealed to the District Court and, if denied there, to the Supreme Court of Israel. The District Court can annul such orders if it finds the administrative detention occurred for reasons other than security (e.g., common crimes, or the exercise of freedom of expression). Overall supervisory authority on the application of the relevant law rests with the Minister of Justice.
Within the West Bank and Gaza Strip, any Israeli district army commander can issue an administrative detention order, and the order can be appealed at the Israeli district military court, or, if denied there, at the Supreme Court. Here too, an administrative detention order is valid for at most six months, but can be renewed by the appropriate authority. Israel refers its use of administrative detention in the occupied territories to Article 78 of the Fourth Geneva Convention 1949, which states that "If the Occupying Power considers it necessary, for imperative reasons of security, to take safety measures concerning protected persons, it may, at the most, subject them to assigned residence or to internment."^[23]
According to Addameer, Israel held 285 Palestinians in administrative detention in June 2012.^[24] Eighteen of them were members of parliament, out of 4,706 political prisoners. According to B'Tselem, as of April 2012, about 308 Palestinians were being held under administrative detention by the Israel Prisons Service (IPS) and statistics on those held by the IDF were unavailable.^[25] According to IPS figures for December 2012, 178 Palestinians were being held in administrative detention (without charge or trial).^[26] As of December 2013, B'Tselem reported that 140 Palestinians were being held under administrative detention by the IPS.^[27]

In August 2015, the Israeli government has approved the usage of administrative detention against Israeli terror suspects in order to combat the growing "price tag" conflict.^[28]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_detention#Israel}

^{It's no good thinking along the lines of innocent until proven guilty, trails and justice etc, its nothing like.}

by Original Quill Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:43 pm

sassy wrote:Unlike criminal incarceration (imprisonment) imposed upon conviction following a trial, administrative detention is a forward-looking mechanism. While criminal proceedings have a retrospective focus – they seek to determine whether a defendant committed an offense in the past – the reasoning behind administrative detention often is based upon contentions that the suspect is likely to pose a threat in the future. It is meant to be preventive in nature rather than punitive (see preventive detention). The practice has been criticized by human rights organizations as a breach of civil and political rights.

Yes, it's along the lines of the old POW's detention. Prospective...and not supposed to be punitive.

That is why I question whether we can associate the death of the six-month child with him at all. Remember, this thread started with suggesting that he was being given a six-month administrative detention in lieu of a penalty.

The two appear to have nothing to do with one another, at least at this point. The Israeli authorities appear to have no probable cause to hold him on criminal charges for the death of that child.

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