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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:14 am

GAZA CITY (Ma'an) -- At least four Palestinians were killed on Thursday and over 30 injured when an unexploded ordnance from last summer's Israeli military offensive went off while clearing the rubble of a destroyed house in the southern Gaza Strip, medics said.

Palestinian medical sources at the Abu Yousif al-Najjar hospital in Rafah said three bodies and multiple wounded Palestinians arrived at the emergency room.

Two of the bodies were identified as Bakr Hasan Abu Naqira and Hasan Ahmad Abu Ayyada. The third victim has yet to be identified.

Over 7,000 unexploded ordnance were left throughout the Gaza Strip following last summer's war between Israel and Palestinian militant groups, according to officials of the UN Humanitarian Coordinator for the Palestinian territories (OCHA).

Even before the most frequent Israeli assault, unexploded ordnance from the 2008-9 and 2012 offensives was a major threat to Gazans.

A 2012 report published by the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights said that 111 civilians, 64 of whom were children, were casualties to unexploded ordnance between 2009 and 2012, reaching an average of four every month in 2012.

http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=766893

Like enough haven't died already, and as they try and clear the rubble, the chances of it happening again are huge. Meanwhile children play on the rubble as it is all around them.

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:28 am

At least seven people were reported killed and dozens injured Thursday in an explosion in the A-Shabura refugee camp in southern Gaza. Gaza rescue workers were transporting the injured to hospitals in Gaza City.
Hamas sources said that the explosion was due to a leftover IDF rocket which had been buried under rubble in the refugee camp. The rocket had apparently been fired during last summer's Operation Protective Edge, as the IDF responded to the thousands of rockets fired on Israeli civilians by targeting areas where Hamas terrorists attacked Israel.
There was no confirmation from the IDF that the explosion was caused by material it fired at Gaza, either last year or more recently.


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/199106


More likely Hamas rockets buried from a previous attack

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:31 am

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There's that fart smell again. Phewwww!

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:34 am

I see the scumbag is running scared now she knows I am not going to take her vile hatred being promoted on the forum anymore.
Nothing worse than racial hatred.
Its always israel to Sassy as if all the israeli's are evil, yet as seen they were appalled at the extremism of the murdered baby and yet when we see Palestinian authorities celebrate Israeli children murdered.

Does sassy speak out?

Nope, her silence is deafing to terrorism against Israeli's as she believes it is justified as armed resisstance.

Verdict

As scummy as Anjem Choudary, two extremist haters

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:45 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:I see the scumbag is running scared now she knows I am not going to take her vile hatred being promoted on the forum anymore.
Nothing worse than racial hatred.
Its always israel to Sassy as if all the israeli's are evil, yet as seen they were appalled at the extremism of the murdered baby and yet when we see Palestinian authorities celebrate Israeli children murdered.

Does sassy speak out?

Nope, her silence is deafing to terrorism against Israeli's as she believes it is justified as armed resisstance.

Verdict

As scummy as Anjem Choudary, two extremist haters

You say exactly the same sort of things as the BNP sometimes (what about racism towards white people, it's just as bad or worse).

Your only tactics now are deflection and a poor attempt to discredit a poster.


Absurd reasoning as per usual from the other fuckwit extremist supporter.


She never condemns Hamas which you never do the same and argues for armed resistance to a place not even occupied, that is extremism for you and one people are not going to tolerate and if you do not like it that is tough shit sunshine

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:47 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:At least seven people were reported killed and dozens injured Thursday in an explosion in the A-Shabura refugee camp in southern Gaza. Gaza rescue workers were transporting the injured to hospitals in Gaza City.
Hamas sources said that the explosion was due to a leftover IDF rocket which had been buried under rubble in the refugee camp. The rocket had apparently been fired during last summer's Operation Protective Edge, as the IDF responded to the thousands of rockets fired on Israeli civilians by targeting areas where Hamas terrorists attacked Israel.
There was no confirmation from the IDF that the explosion was caused by material it fired at Gaza, either last year or more recently.


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/199106


More likely Hamas rockets buried from a previous attack

You have no evidence of that. Which shows how prejudice and bigoted you have become.


You have no evidence it is an Israeli ordinance either.

I am bringing some balance to the debate.

Though I guess you would not condemn Hamas if it did indeed turn out to be rockets and further proof of them storing them in civillian areas would you?

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:48 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
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Absurd reasoning as per usual from the other fuckwit extremist supporter.


She never condemns Hamas which you never do the same and argues for armed resistance to a place not even occupied, that is extremism for you and one people are not going to tolerate and if you do not like it that is tough shit sunshine

Oye dumb ass! What's this thread about? Hamas?

Start your own thread.

lol a muggy little runt trying to tell me what to do, jog on your fuckwit

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:50 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
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You have no evidence it is an Israeli ordinance either.

I am bringing some balance to the debate.

Though I guess you would not condemn Hamas if it did indeed turn out to be rockets and further proof of them storing them in civillian areas would you?

Lol! A debate based on no evidence. Retard Alert!


The only thing backward is someone who thinks a man who listened to voices was talking to an angel and in these beliefs throught it was right to command the most backward beliefs onto people and then some people bouth ionto this.

Again it could very well be Hamas rockets, are you denying this?

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:51 am

Oh boy - not the R word again. rabbit
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:52 am

Raggamuffin wrote:Oh boy - not the R word again. rabbit

I expect nothing less from a radical Muslim

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:55 am

Israel News Flash ‏@ILNewsFlash 1 hr1 hour ago

BREAKING: An unexploded Israeli bomb explodes in #Rafah city south of #Gaza, Initial reports 3 dead & many injured.

Israeli news agrees it's Israeli bomb

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:56 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

I expect nothing less from a radical Muslim

Oh no. You're losing your temper again.

He really can't keep his thuggish side under control.

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:57 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:


The only thing backward is someone who thinks a man who listened to voices was talking to an angel and in these beliefs throught it was right to command the most backward beliefs onto people and then some people bouth ionto this.

Again it could very well be Hamas rockets, are you denying this?

Why should I answer a question from someone who is clearly a bigot.

It's one thing to offend me but you've just offended over a billion people. Don't pretend to fight racism and bigotry when you're quite clearly a hypocrite.


A bigot? Ha ha ha Ha

This coming from the man who went mental over homosexuals being allowed equal rights

What a twat.

So taking to task a billion people if they back views that go against the well being and equality of others make me a bigot I will wear that badge with pride. Only idiocy allows people to think they should not speak out on the wrongs found in religion.

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:01 am

sassy wrote:
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Oh no. You're losing your temper again.

He really can't keep his thuggish side under control.

Yeah of course you do not speak out on the countless people persecuted within Muslim lands, whether they be women, homosexuals, apostates, non-Muslims etc, that violence is exceptable to a left wing twat of course, where we should respect a beleif syustem that in many cases imposes itself on others.
Its time many Muslims learn their faith should be a personal belief that does not effect the well being and equality of others, but only a coward like yourself would not speak out on this.

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:02 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

A bigot? Ha ha ha Ha

This coming from the man who went mental over homosexuals being allowed equal rights

What a twat.

So taking to task a billion people if they back views that go against the well being and equality of others make me a bigot I will wear that badge with pride. Only idiocy allows people to think they should not speak out on the wrongs found in religion.


i don't pretend to be some one I'm not. You do.

Is that your defense for the backward beliefs?
The fact is your religion allows and teaches intolerance, what are you doing to change that?

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:03 am

Many of those people who are mistreated are also Muslims though, so do they also have the same beliefs as the ones who mistreat them?
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:04 am

How about we get back to the bomb exploding, the people hurt, and how it's going to happen again, and not let a two bit thug divert the thread?

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:04 am

Raggamuffin wrote:Many of those people who are mistreated are also Muslims though, so do they also have the same beliefs as the ones who mistreat them?

No Muslims should be persecuted either, again everyone should have equal rights, but being religious does not mean you have a right to impose those beliefs. When you start to do that expect others will stand against such intolerance

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How about we get back to the bomb exploding, the people hurt, and how it's going to happen again, and not let a two bit thug divert the thread?

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:05 am

sassy wrote:How about we get back to the bomb exploding, the people hurt, and how it's going to happen again, and not let a two bit thug divert the thread?

Lets hope you get arrested soon for your promotion of violence against Israeli's where you claim armed resistance.

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How about we get back to the bomb exploding, the people hurt, and how it's going to happen again, and not let a two bit thug divert the thread?

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:06 am

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Many of those people who are mistreated are also Muslims though, so do they also have the same beliefs as the ones who mistreat them?

No Muslims should be persecuted either, again everyone should have equal rights, but being religious does not mean you have a right to impose those beliefs. When you start to do that expect others will stand against such intolerance

So what if a particular Muslim took part in throwing a gay person off a building, and then was stoned later for committing adultery? Where would your sympathy lie then?
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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:08 am

sassy wrote:How about we get back to the bomb exploding, the people hurt, and how it's going to happen again, and not let a two bit thug divert the thread?

Was it not an old bomb though? Sounds like they need more bomb disposal experts.
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:09 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

No Muslims should be persecuted either, again everyone should have equal rights, but being religious does not mean you have a right to impose those beliefs. When you start to do that expect others will stand against such intolerance

So what if a particular Muslim took part in throwing a gay person off a building, and then was stoned later for committing adultery? Where would your sympathy lie then?

If they have committed murder, why would I have sympathy for them?
If they were stonned to death that also would be barbaric and wrong

Daft question

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:09 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:A United Nations official said the Israeli recent war on Gaza Strip left nearly 7,000 unexploded ordnances and demanded for them to be defused as a result.

The U.N. Humanitarian Coordinator for the Palestinian territories, James Rawley demanded Wednesday during a ceremony in Khan Younis, south Gaza Strip that Gaza Strip be free of unexploded ordnance to have a safe community. The ordnances also make it difficult for international organizations to operate efficiently.

Meanwhile, UNRWA Director of Operations in Gaza, Robert Turner said that his organisation in collaboration with the United Nations Mine Action Service, UNMAS have been working to get rid of suspicious objects.

"Gaza Strip continues to suffer from suspicious objects and many of them that are difficult to deal with" he said.

Turner pointed out that landmines left during the Israeli recent war pose a threat to citizens and children in schools.

He called to support Gaza Strip in the field of mine action.

Meanwhile, the United Nations Goodwill Ambassador, Palestinian artist Mohammed Assaf said that Gaza Strip lives under harsh conditions due to the Israeli siege imposed for eight consecutive years.

Assaf demanded in his speech to lift the siege imposed on the Gaza Strip and to allow Palestinians living there to live in safety and security.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/americas/17956-un-israels-gaza-war-left-7000-unexploded-ordnance

This seems like a deliberate Israeli tactic to leave booby traps, stop rebuilding and kill yet more innocents.

7,000!!! That's a lot more kids that could die or become amputees when playing in the rubble. As it is, there are a huge number of children in Gaza now who are amputees.

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:11 am

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

So what if a particular Muslim took part in throwing a gay person off a building, and then was stoned later for committing adultery? Where would your sympathy lie then?

If they have committed murder, why would I have sympathy for them?
If they were stonned to death that also would be barbaric and wrong

Daft question

So a victim can also be a perpetrator. If you have no sympathy for the stoned Muslim, why would you be bothered about the beliefs of those who stoned him/her?
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:12 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

If they have committed murder, why would I have sympathy for them?
If they were stonned to death that also would be barbaric and wrong

Daft question

So a victim can also be a perpetrator. If you have no sympathy for the stoned Muslim, why would you be bothered about the beliefs of those who stoned him/her?

Rags, will you please stick to the thread or start another of your own. Thank you.

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:12 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Is that your defense for the backward beliefs?
The fact is your religion allows and teaches intolerance, what are you doing to change that?

If you want to discuss me, then start a Fuzzy thread.

Don't try to derail another thread.  Your tactics just spoil debate.


I will say as a I please and this seems as good a place as any


As to your claim this was deliberate by the Israeli's when no confirmation of what this was is poor to say the least.

Now who is coming out with speculation?

Until someone has inspected the debris, nobody can say who is to blame, but straight away you come out with horseshit

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:13 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:A United Nations official said the Israeli recent war on Gaza Strip left nearly 7,000 unexploded ordnances and demanded for them to be defused as a result.

The U.N. Humanitarian Coordinator for the Palestinian territories, James Rawley demanded Wednesday during a ceremony in Khan Younis, south Gaza Strip that Gaza Strip be free of unexploded ordnance to have a safe community. The ordnances also make it difficult for international organizations to operate efficiently.

Meanwhile, UNRWA Director of Operations in Gaza, Robert Turner said that his organisation in collaboration with the United Nations Mine Action Service, UNMAS have been working to get rid of suspicious objects.

"Gaza Strip continues to suffer from suspicious objects and many of them that are difficult to deal with" he said.

Turner pointed out that landmines left during the Israeli recent war pose a threat to citizens and children in schools.

He called to support Gaza Strip in the field of mine action.

Meanwhile, the United Nations Goodwill Ambassador, Palestinian artist Mohammed Assaf said that Gaza Strip lives under harsh conditions due to the Israeli siege imposed for eight consecutive years.

Assaf demanded in his speech to lift the siege imposed on the Gaza Strip and to allow Palestinians living there to live in safety and security.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/americas/17956-un-israels-gaza-war-left-7000-unexploded-ordnance

This seems like a deliberate Israeli tactic to leave booby traps, stop rebuilding and kill yet more innocents
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That's a really good point, because it's rather unusual for there to be that many unexploded bombs.


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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:14 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

If they have committed murder, why would I have sympathy for them?
If they were stonned to death that also would be barbaric and wrong

Daft question

So a victim can also be a perpetrator. If you have no sympathy for the stoned Muslim, why would you be bothered about the beliefs of those who stoned him/her?


How daft again, because in each case they are imposing their beliefs,. which go against the well being and equality of people.

IKts not rocket science even for an idiot like yourself

In both cases it would be wrong, sympathy does not even come into the equation, what does is how in each case it would be wrong and barbaric

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:20 am

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

So a victim can also be a perpetrator. If you have no sympathy for the stoned Muslim, why would you be bothered about the beliefs of those who stoned him/her?


How daft again, because in each case they are imposing their beliefs,. which go against the well  being and equality of people.

IKts not rocket science even for an idiot like yourself

In both cases it would be wrong, sympathy does not even come into the equation, what does is how in each case it would be wrong and barbaric

You're the idiot - as usual. You don't even know what you're complaining about half the time. Moron.

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Raggamuffin wrote:
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How daft again, because in each case they are imposing their beliefs,. which go against the well  being and equality of people.

IKts not rocket science even for an idiot like yourself

In both cases it would be wrong, sympathy does not even come into the equation, what does is how in each case it would be wrong and barbaric

You're the idiot - as usual. You don't even know what you're complaining about half the time. Moron.

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Or I just made you look an idiot because the fact is you are.

You see the point would be on how wrong and barbaric each crime committed was done, what you are saying is if the person who was stonned to death deserved such a punishment, when the obvious answer is no.
Sympathy did npt even come into the equation, what should happen is that person would be jailed for life, but a thicky such as yourself cannot work out simple things it seems

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:24 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
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I will say as a I please and this seems as good a place as any


As to your claim this was deliberate by the Israeli's when no confirmation of what this was is poor to say the least.

Now who is coming out with speculation?

Until someone has inspected the debris, nobody can say who is to blame, but straight away you come out with horseshit

Commenting on a report is not speculation.

All reports say the ordinance was Zionist.

Including the Israeli ones.

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:25 am

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You're the idiot - as usual. You don't even know what you're complaining about half the time. Moron.

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Or I just made you look an idiot because the fact is you are.

You see the point would be on how wrong and barbaric each crime committed was done, what you are saying is if the person who was stonned to death deserved such a punishment, when the obvious answer is no.
Sympathy did npt even come into the equation, what should happen is that person would be jailed for life, but a thicky such as yourself cannot work out simple things it seems

You're the idiot disrupting this forum day after day with your thuggery, threats, and stupid remarks. You have no brain or morals whatsoever. You don't even understand your own stance against religious beliefs.
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Or I just made you look an idiot because the fact is you are.

You see the point would be on how wrong and barbaric each crime committed was done, what you are saying is if the person who was stonned to death deserved such a punishment, when the obvious answer is no.
Sympathy did npt even come into the equation, what should happen is that person would be jailed for life, but a thicky such as yourself cannot work out simple things it seems

You're the idiot disrupting this forum day after day with your thuggery, threats, and stupid remarks. You have no brain or morals whatsoever. You don't even understand your own stance against religious beliefs.


No dear, its been worked out you are the forum shit stirrer and if you do not amend your ways I am going to make your life a right pain in the arse here. Time you stopped being a twat. Its that simple because I am sick to death of you acting like a spoilt brat craving attention

So a thick twat like you is not going to bother me with your pathetic words above, as after all I am a thug so it seems, so youi are not going to stop me and thus the best way is for you to mend your ways.

Your choice fuckwit

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:30 am

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:


I will say as a I please and this seems as good a place as any


As to your claim this was deliberate by the Israeli's when no confirmation of what this was is poor to say the least.

Now who is coming out with speculation?

Until someone has inspected the debris, nobody can say who is to blame, but straight away you come out with horseshit

Commenting on a report is not speculation.

All reports say the ordinance was Zionist.


No they do not all say Israeli ordinace even more so when it has not even been investigated.

They are speculating just as you are and even more so when the sources are from Hamas themselves

Or did that not escape your attention ISIS lover?

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:37 pm

All reports:


Explosion in Gaza Strip kills four, wounds 30; cause unknown


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/06/us-israel-palestinians-gazablast-idUSKCN0QB13Y20150806

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:41 pm

Latest:

Unexploded Israeli Bomb Reportedly Kills 4 in Gaza

Around 30 wounded in Rafah after dud leftover from Gaza conflict blew up during attempts to clear debris left over from the fighting.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/beta/1.669871

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:42 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
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You're the idiot disrupting this forum day after day with your thuggery, threats, and stupid remarks. You have no brain or morals whatsoever. You don't even understand your own stance against religious beliefs.


No dear, its been worked out you are the forum shit stirrer and if you do not amend your ways I am going to make your life a right pain in the arse here. Time you stopped being a twat. Its that simple because I am sick to death of you acting like a spoilt brat craving attention

So a thick twat like you is not going to bother me with your pathetic words above, as after all I am a thug so it seems, so youi are not going to stop me and thus the best way is for you to mend your ways.

Your choice fuckwit

My choice is to do exactly what I like on this forum as long as the mods say nothing. You seem to think you can bully me, and yet you're claiming that you're being bullied in another thread.

Grow up.
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:43 pm

Yep cause unknow, the source is from Hamas who are investigating so how can they know it was an Israel rocket?
DOH


Like I say, it may well Be an Israeli rocket and just as much hamas rockets.

I await some proof not unconfirmed reports

Reuters gets it right by waiting

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