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MI5 'helped Margaret Thatcher cover-up paedophile Tory MP's activities' new documents reveal
Labour MP Simon Danczuck said the newly unearthed documents prove 'the full weight of the British establishment, including MI5, colluded in a cover-up'
The head of MI5 warned Margaret Thatcher’s Cabinet Secretary that an unnamed MP, understood to be a senior Tory, had “a penchant for small boys”, Government child abuse papers have revealed.
The newly unearthed documents link Mrs Thatcher’s former parliamentary secretary Sir Peter Morrison, former Home Secretary Leon Brittan, former diplomat Sir Peter Hayman and ex-minister Sir William van Straubenzee to the establishment paedophilia scandal.
In the bombshell letter written in 1986, MI5 boss Sir Antony Duff revealed two sources had accused an MP of child abuse.
But he told Cabinet Secretary Sir Robert Armstrong he accepted the MP’s denials, adding: “At the present stage... the risks of political embarrassment to the Government is rather greater than the security danger.”
In a letter released today, the Cabinet Office admitted: “The risk to children is not considered at all.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mi5-helped-margaret-thatcher-cover-6120006
Disgusting.
The head of MI5 warned Margaret Thatcher’s Cabinet Secretary that an unnamed MP, understood to be a senior Tory, had “a penchant for small boys”, Government child abuse papers have revealed.
The newly unearthed documents link Mrs Thatcher’s former parliamentary secretary Sir Peter Morrison, former Home Secretary Leon Brittan, former diplomat Sir Peter Hayman and ex-minister Sir William van Straubenzee to the establishment paedophilia scandal.
In the bombshell letter written in 1986, MI5 boss Sir Antony Duff revealed two sources had accused an MP of child abuse.
But he told Cabinet Secretary Sir Robert Armstrong he accepted the MP’s denials, adding: “At the present stage... the risks of political embarrassment to the Government is rather greater than the security danger.”
In a letter released today, the Cabinet Office admitted: “The risk to children is not considered at all.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mi5-helped-margaret-thatcher-cover-6120006
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You forgot to mention this bit sassy...
Labour MP had a liking for 'young raggamuffins'... which was understood to mean young boys...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11749287/Senior-Labour-MP-accused-of-child-sex-abuse.html
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You forgot to mention this bit sassy...
Labour MP had a liking for 'young raggamuffins'... which was understood to mean young boys...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11749287/Senior-Labour-MP-accused-of-child-sex-abuse.html
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A lot of insight into how this sort of thing happens (over and over) comes from Freakonomics:
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Raggamuffin wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:
You forgot to mention this bit sassy...
Labour MP had a liking for 'young raggamuffins'... which was understood to mean young boys...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11749287/Senior-Labour-MP-accused-of-child-sex-abuse.html
Don't worry rags... I think you Are safe... you're the wrong sex for a start... And past puberty....!
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Tommy Monk wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:
You forgot to mention this bit sassy...
Labour MP had a liking for 'young raggamuffins'... which was understood to mean young boys...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11749287/Senior-Labour-MP-accused-of-child-sex-abuse.html
Don't worry rags... I think you Are safe... you're the wrong sex for a start... And past puberty....!
Children were raped!
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Don't worry rags... I think you Are safe... you're the wrong sex for a start... And past puberty....!
Phew!
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funny i looked and the story and the link doesn`t mention labour its about How MI5 'helped Margaret ThatcherTommy Monk wrote:
You forgot to mention this bit sassy...
Labour MP had a liking for 'young raggamuffins'... which was understood to mean young boys...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11749287/Senior-Labour-MP-accused-of-child-sex-abuse.html
Nobody is saying labour did not have bastards and scum doing this however you straight away deflect and cite labour yet the torys they where actually in government and failed to act and actively covered it up presumably for both party`s
how about commenting on what thatcher and her government did as is the point of the actual story
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Don't worry rags... I think you Are safe... you're the wrong sex for a start... And past puberty....!
Children were raped!
Yes... and was not what the joke was about!
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this is something to make jokes about is it tommy ?Tommy Monk wrote:Ben_Reilly wrote:
Children were raped!
Yes... and was not what the joke was about!
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Tommy Monk wrote:Ben_Reilly wrote:
Children were raped!
Yes... and was not what the joke was about!
It's just fake outrage Tommy.
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i would also point out its a Labour MP Simon Danczuck who is making all party`s answer for this and seeking out the truth
Any torys doing this ?
Any torys doing this ?
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And KD... yes we know there were others non labour involved... that is shown in sassy's link already and confirmed in my one... but I just added a little bit that You lefties don't want to mention... plus the fact that it was overwhelmingly homosexuals abusing young boys!!!
And M I 5, or even higher/other secret service, were possibly involved in allowing it to film and use against and control those involved.
To blow open the truth about this homosexual filth while homosexuality was being actively promoted as a nice And normal thing would have been counter productive to the agenda being rolled out...
And M I 5, or even higher/other secret service, were possibly involved in allowing it to film and use against and control those involved.
To blow open the truth about this homosexual filth while homosexuality was being actively promoted as a nice And normal thing would have been counter productive to the agenda being rolled out...
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Nothing fake about itRaggamuffin wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:
Yes... and was not what the joke was about!
It's just fake outrage Tommy.
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homosexual ? surely you mean paedophile filth and wasn`homosexuality still illegal at the time ?Tommy Monk wrote:And KD... yes we know there were others non labour involved... that is shown in sassy's link already and confirmed in my one... but I just added a little bit that You lefties don't want to mention... plus the fact that it was overwhelmingly homosexuals abusing young boys!!!
And M I 5, or even higher/other secret service, were possibly involved in allowing it to film and use against and control those involved.
To blow this homosexual filth while homosexuality was being actively promoted as a nice And normal thing would have been counter productive to the agenda being rolled out...
and i think us "leftys" have no problem bringing up what other partys mp did including labour ones and a stupid statement considering its a labour MP spearheading the investigation
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Margaret Thatcher cover-up paedophile Tory MP's activities
the point is in the headline
And i did not see homosexuals mentioned at all ,perhaps you could highlight that bit
the point is in the headline
And i did not see homosexuals mentioned at all ,perhaps you could highlight that bit
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First you say it doesn't matter what sex was involved as it's all just peado stuff... then you try to deny that it was overwhelmingly homosexual men abusing young boys...
Why try to deny this, when as you say, it doesn't matter!!!???
Why try to deny this, when as you say, it doesn't matter!!!???
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Raggamuffin wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:Ben_Reilly wrote:
Children were raped!
Yes... and was not what the joke was about!
It's just fake outrage Tommy.
Nothing fake about it. Maybe if it were an "Asian grooming gang" instead of your beloved Tories, your sense of justice might be insulted. But just keep joking, it's a great look!
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It's just fake outrage Tommy.
Nothing fake about it. Maybe if it were an "Asian grooming gang" instead of your beloved Tories, your sense of justice might be insulted. But just keep joking, it's a great look!
Now why would you say that?
I would have said exactly the same thing.
I've never voted Tory in my life, and if you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that I said Cameron is my least favourite person at the moment.
Still, people twisting things on here is nothing new ...
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you bleating at meTommy Monk wrote:First you say it doesn't matter what sex was involved as it's all just peado stuff... then you try to deny that it was overwhelmingly homosexual men abusing young boys...
Why try to deny this, when as you say, it doesn't matter!!!???
Did i ? pretty sure i have made no such comment
and "it was overwhelmingly homosexual men " ? yes you keep saying that ,yet have not provided one fact to support that claim
in fact the 4 people (so far ) pictured on the news are they homosexuals ? could you perhaps so me that information or report or is that just more of your baseless claims against homosexuals
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ps
Vanessa The Undresser ...sound like a woman to me and thatcher was i think a woman (open to debate of course)she covered it up
Vanessa The Undresser ...sound like a woman to me and thatcher was i think a woman (open to debate of course)she covered it up
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Jesus Fucking Christ, I've heard it all now, children were raped, tortured and they know of two that were killed AND PEOPLE ARE MAKING JOKES AND THINK IT MATTERS WHAT SEX THEY WERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What scum have we got on here!!!!!!!!!!!
And Tommy, when we know who the Labour MP is, I'll be talking about it. You absolutely disgust me.
And Tommy, when we know who the Labour MP is, I'll be talking about it. You absolutely disgust me.
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sassy wrote:Jesus Fucking Christ, I've heard it all now, children were raped, tortured and they know of two that were killed AND PEOPLE ARE MAKING JOKES AND THINKS IS MATTER WHAT SEX THEY WERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What scum have we got on here!!!!!!!!!!!
And Tommy, when we know who the Labour MP is, I'll be talking about it. You absolutely disgust me.
It was only a joke about my user name.
Chill ...
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Raggamuffin wrote:sassy wrote:Jesus Fucking Christ, I've heard it all now, children were raped, tortured and they know of two that were killed AND PEOPLE ARE MAKING JOKES AND THINKS IS MATTER WHAT SEX THEY WERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What scum have we got on here!!!!!!!!!!!
And Tommy, when we know who the Labour MP is, I'll be talking about it. You absolutely disgust me.
It was only a joke about my user name.
Chill ...
I don't chill over abused children, especially when I talk to some of them on line, and the 'joke' was neither funny or appropriate!
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sassy wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
It was only a joke about my user name.
Chill ...
I don't chill over abused children, especially when I talk to some of them on line, and the 'joke' was neither funny or appropriate!
Well I laughed ...
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The homosexual peado labour MP's you mean...
Plural... more than one... and I'm sure there will be a few homosexual peado Tory MPs in the mix too...!
And let's not forget that many of these homosexual peados like to use girls names at these 'events'...
Look up 'kitty' and cliff Richard...
Plural... more than one... and I'm sure there will be a few homosexual peado Tory MPs in the mix too...!
And let's not forget that many of these homosexual peados like to use girls names at these 'events'...
Look up 'kitty' and cliff Richard...
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I know all about Kitty and Cliff Richard, have known about Elm House and Dolphin Square for years.
I'm not discussing it with you Tommy, I know how it has destroyed those people's lives and all you want to do is make it into a game against gays etc and I'm not playing, it's too damn horrible and too damn important and heart breaking.
I'm not discussing it with you Tommy, I know how it has destroyed those people's lives and all you want to do is make it into a game against gays etc and I'm not playing, it's too damn horrible and too damn important and heart breaking.
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One also wouldn't want to libel Cliff. All the people in the first article are dead, so of course they can't be libelled.
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william van straubenzee married no gay allegations
Peter Hayman married no gay allegations
Peter Morrison married According to the journalist Simon Heffer, Morrison was gay
Leon Brittan married no gay allegations
Cyril Smith married no gay allegations
now obviously this was just a quick check but overwhelmingly gay ?
overwhelmingly paedophiles
and that`s just the four Mp`s names in the public domain i could remember and that that i checked
but if you have any-more MP`s names let me know i will check
Peter Hayman married no gay allegations
Peter Morrison married According to the journalist Simon Heffer, Morrison was gay
Leon Brittan married no gay allegations
Cyril Smith married no gay allegations
now obviously this was just a quick check but overwhelmingly gay ?
overwhelmingly paedophiles
and that`s just the four Mp`s names in the public domain i could remember and that that i checked
but if you have any-more MP`s names let me know i will check
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you seem to know more about what these alleged homosexual peados do than most ? tommyTommy Monk wrote:The homosexual peado labour MP's you mean...
Plural... more than one... and I'm sure there will be a few homosexual peado Tory MPs in the mix too...!
And let's not forget that many of these homosexual peados like to use girls names at these 'events'...
Look up 'kitty' and cliff Richard...
but i would be more impressed if you could actually cite some evidence to check out rather than just your accusations base`d in bigotry and hate
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Getting married to a woman is a great cover...
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i suspect perhaps it isTommy Monk wrote:Getting married to a woman is a great cover...
however still no evidence that they where actually gay that`s just your wild speculation and uninformed opinion
unless you know for a fact something we don`t know ,and if so how ?
and if so shouldn`t you be talking to the police ?
are you married ?
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sassy wrote:I know all about Kitty and Cliff Richard, have known about Elm House and Dolphin Square for years.
I'm not discussing it with you Tommy, I know how it has destroyed those people's lives and all you want to do is make it into a game against gays etc and I'm not playing, it's too damn horrible and too damn important and heart breaking.
So you 'knew all about it' eh...?
But couldn't say anything because it was homosexuals doing the peado-ing...!!!???
And many of them being labour stopped you too I suppose...!!!???
while I bet that You wound be shouting it from the roof tops if it was exclusively a Tory thing and men targeting girls though wouldn't you!!!?
You bloody hypocrite!!!
It is you who should be sick of yourself for your silence over this because it was labour homosexuals involved!!!!
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typical tommy trying to promote his "gay bashing" agenda again...seriously he needs a brain transplant, his thought processes are so simplistic a slime mould could do better..
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bit of a straw man argumentTommy Monk wrote:sassy wrote:I know all about Kitty and Cliff Richard, have known about Elm House and Dolphin Square for years.
I'm not discussing it with you Tommy, I know how it has destroyed those people's lives and all you want to do is make it into a game against gays etc and I'm not playing, it's too damn horrible and too damn important and heart breaking.
So you 'knew all about it' eh...?
But couldn't say anything because it was homosexuals doing the peado-ing...!!!???
And many of them being labour stopped you too I suppose...!!!???
while I bet that You wound be shouting it from the roof tops if it was exclusively a Tory thing and men targeting girls though wouldn't you!!!?
You bloody hypocrite!!!
It is you who should be sick of yourself for your silence over this because it was labour homosexuals involved!!!!
i understand lots of people knew or at least suspected,yet the prime-minister wasn`t shouting it from the roof tops ether
and she was in a position to actually do something about it and would not be dismissed or intimidated to keep quite as many where when allegations where made
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Seems that this was a bit more of an open secret than you claim...
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i guess that`s why unicorns are blue
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The truth must be wrong because the truth is incorrect...
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It's just fake outrage Tommy.
Nothing fake about it. Maybe if it were an "Asian grooming gang" instead of your beloved Tories, your sense of justice might be insulted. But just keep joking, it's a great look!
Now why would you say that?
I would have said exactly the same thing.
I've never voted Tory in my life, and if you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that I said Cameron is my least favourite person at the moment.
Still, people twisting things on here is nothing new ...
Once again you display an uncanny ability to completely ignore the spirit of my statement and nit-pick the details ...
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BTW Tommy, who put the thread on about Lord Janner? I don't give a flying fuck what party they are in, they should all be locked up and the key thrown away, because the only thing I am thinking about is the children. Unlike you.
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Tommy it's not a competition to see how many paedos are gay and how many aren't.
It's not about counting up numbers, saying "I win!" and feeling triumphant.
It's about innocent children being violated in the worst ways possible and nothing about that, sounds like winning to me.
It's not about counting up numbers, saying "I win!" and feeling triumphant.
It's about innocent children being violated in the worst ways possible and nothing about that, sounds like winning to me.
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eddie wrote:Tommy it's not a competition to see how many paedos are gay and how many aren't.
It's not about counting up numbers, saying "I win!" and feeling triumphant.
It's about innocent children being violated in the worst ways possible and nothing about that, sounds like winning to me.
Spot on!
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I only speak the truth... and the truth will prevail....
I have no interest in 'competition'... only interested in the truth...
I have no interest in 'competition'... only interested in the truth...
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I have no interest in 'competition'... only interested in the truth...
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There are some people so addicted to exaggeration that they can't tell the truth without lying.Tommy Monk wrote:I only speak the truth... and the truth will prevail....
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Labour politicians KD...!?
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Now why would you say that?
I would have said exactly the same thing.
I've never voted Tory in my life, and if you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that I said Cameron is my least favourite person at the moment.
Still, people twisting things on here is nothing new ...
Once again you display an uncanny ability to completely ignore the spirit of my statement and nit-pick the details ...
It's not even clear what the spirit of your statement was. It didn't even register with me that Sassy was referring to Tories in particular. You were also implying that I would think that Asian "grooming" was worse than any other kind - that was very disingenuous of you. In fact, I haven't said much about that subject anyway.
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eddie wrote:Tommy it's not a competition to see how many paedos are gay and how many aren't.
It's not about counting up numbers, saying "I win!" and feeling triumphant.
It's about innocent children being violated in the worst ways possible and nothing about that, sounds like winning to me.
for tommy its NOT about the kids is it...its just another chance for him to spout his gay hating rubbish
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It is completely about the victims and with a clear focus on those responsible...
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Tommy Monk wrote:I only speak the truth... and the truth will prevail....
I have no interest in 'competition'... only interested in the truth...
What are you trying to prove please? That gay men rape children? Yes they do?
That alot of heterosexual men rape children? Yes they do.
What does this prove apart from the fact that children are being raped?
Why are we counting "sides"?
Does it matter, even if true, if there are more men that rape boys than men that rape girls?
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Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:33 pm by Ben Reilly
» London violence over the weekend...
Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:19 pm by Tommy Monk
» Why should anyone believe anything that Mo Farah says...!?
Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:44 am by Tommy Monk
» Liverpool Labour defends mayor role poll after turnout was only 3% and they say they will push ahead with the option that was least preferred!!!
Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:11 pm by Tommy Monk
» Labour leader Keir Stammer can't answer the simple question of whether a woman has a penis or not...
Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:58 am by Tommy Monk
» More evidence of remoaners still trying to overturn Brexit... and this is a conservative MP who should be drummed out of the party and out of parliament!
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:50 pm by Tommy Monk
» R Kelly 30 years, Ghislaine Maxwell 20 years... but here in UK...
Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:31 pm by Original Quill