How to insult a 'progressive'

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCis1U1nFR0&feature=youtube_gdata_player



Bang on the money!!!

Tommy, um...did Roy ever ask to touch you? Ya know, down there?

This seemed pretty racist to me, though it was good of him to apologize:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PhWo09sr4E

I still defend his right to say it and believe whatever he wants to believe -- because I'm a progressive.

Yes, that extends even to believing that people should have the right to practice Islam freely and in peace, so long as they're behaving peacefully. And that doesn't mean "they" as all Muslims, that means individual Muslims aren't to be held to account for crimes other people commit.

Believing in interfering with the freedom of anyone who isn't harming others or the environment is the definition of tyranny.

That's to say nothing of the utter childish divisiveness of this video.

ahh...tommy know-nowt spouting his hateful rubbish again.

Perhaps he is a fan of goebels since he firmly beleives that iof he repeats something often and long enough it will, magically, become true

Meh, he's not that intelligent, he is just a hatefull little man foul and repleat with infantile (or more likely senile) predudices.

I mean guys here's the "man" (slime mould) that could not even discover the false logic in a deliberately flawed maths puzzle (the divide by zero hilarity of a few days ago)

heres the mental midget that thinks posting after every vile poisonous statement makes it "ok" od some how less offensive....

what it does of course is emphasise what a sad loser he really is.

just for Tommy

Tommy Monk wrote:Waffle... I care about an innocent and vulnerable childs rights and needs for a mother and A father.


But it is very 'progressive' to deny willing prospective normal mother/father parents for spurious reasons and to ignore the child's rights and needs for a mother add father and to instead look after the sensitivities of a couple of homosexuals... all in the name of equality mind!!!

yet its a stupid argument some kids are brought up by ether a single mother or farther are you claiming they rights are infringed on because they don`t have a opposite sex parent your argument (such as it is )is fallacious and only based on your bigotry

What a load of bollocks victor... it was me who immediately pointed out the bullshit algebra when it was first posted.


But don't let the truth get in a way of a Good bit of bullshit... keep repeating it and people might start believing it..:



How caring about the wants, needs and rights of an innocent and vulnerable child in the care system can be twisted into a form of hatred is a leftie speciality trick!!!


I fear you have caught a dose of 'progressiveness'...

Tommy Monk wrote:What a load of bollocks victor... it was me who immediately pointed out the bullshit algebra when it was first posted. But don't let the truth get in a way of a Good bit of bullshit... keep repeating it and people might start believing it..:How caring about the wants, needs and rights of an innocent and vulnerable child in the care system can be twisted into a form of hatred is a leftie speciality trick!!!


I fear you have caught a dose of 'progressiveness'...

Thi coming from the person on record who has stated he would rather children stay in care than in the home of loving homosexual parents. That is not caring for the children in any shape or form and is denying them the love and care they deserve and need. You care more about promoting your anti-homosexual views than you do for the children and that is evident by you wishing to deny them a loving home

I would rather willing normal mother/father parents aren't denied for spurious reasons... as I said earlier...!

tommy ...you are to the R/W what a pair of lead boots are to a channel swimmer

no tommy know-nowt..you poinetd out that it was obviously wrong...(lets face it even a 7 year old could have done that since the result was clearly incorrect)

what it took you half a dozen pages of waffle AND some help to find is where the error was and correctly define it.

Tommy Monk wrote:I would rather willing normal mother/father parents aren't denied for spurious reasons... as I said earlier...!

See, you do not care for the children.
Your stance and beliefs is based around prejudice.
Not the care of the children themselves.
All that matters is they are found a loving caring home, it does not matter if the parents are hetrosexual or homosexual.

Tommy Monk wrote:I would rather willing normal mother/father parents aren't denied for spurious reasons... as I said earlier...!

and you claim a child's health is a spurious reason perhaps we should just stick them with anybody who wants one pedeos,unemployed so they can claim benefits ,abusive people, cults

honestly your a bit dim

see this is one GOOD reason the R/W will never amount to much in todays world. While they count people like Tommy in their ranks they will always be nothing but a twisted bitter "minority party" I'll give Farage his due...he tried, but its like trying to make fine porcelain with brick clay.......

Victor... I said immediately it was bollocks when it was first posted... how could I have known that without already knowing why...!!!???



Dodge... yes it does matter as a childs wants, needs and rights are paramount and A child needs a mother and A father and has the right not to be placed in any other unnatural and abnormal home environment.


Of course a child's health is important... spurious reasons to deny children with willing prospective parents should not be important.

Do you think a child's mental health and general well being might not be affected by having two dads and being denied a mother?

Tommy Monk wrote:Victor... I said immediately it was bollocks when it was first posted... how could I have known that without already knowing why...!!!???



Dodge... yes it does matter as a childs wants, needs and rights are paramount and A child needs a mother and A father and has the right not to be placed in any other unnatural and abnormal home environment.


Of course a child's health is important... spurious reasons to deny children with willing prospective parents should not be important.

Do you think a child's mental health and general well being might not be affected by having two dads and being denied a mother?

Again you are talking gibberish claiming now only two parents where one has to be female have any hope of rasing a child lovingly and with care. Again you are arguing from a stand point of prejudice offering no evidence at all that children cannot be raise lovingly by single parents either a mother or a father on their own or homosexual parents. To claim mental health would not be the parents by ignorant idiots like yourself with intent to treat these children poorly based off having homosexual parents. Which makes the likes of you the problem.

Like I say you talk gibberish

Authorities should not be placing any children into a home environment that deliberately denies that child a mother and A father figure.

Tommy Monk wrote:Authorities should not be placing any children into a home environment that deliberately denies that child a mother and A father figure.

Gibberish

sad innit....tommy know nowt is too dumb to know he's dumb

Tommy Monk wrote:Authorities should not be placing any children into a home environment that deliberately denies that child a mother and A father figure.

FFs so i guess we should be removing children from single parents as well or forcing single parents to marry

your a moron pall with half baked opinions not properly thought out

Single parents are unfortunate and the child usually suffers in one way or another as a result... But normally still have contact with both natural parents.

Tommy Monk wrote:


Single parents are unfortunate and the child usually suffers in one way or another as a result... But normally still have contact with both natural parents.

i know a few people of single parents and your talking bollux as usual ,and if one parent is dead not much contact is there ?

your a idiot flailing about for a argument to fit your reasons but they don`t exist because your "argument " is based on your bigoted bias

you don`t think things trough thats your problem and why your so easily demised

You Are talking bollocks... as usual...

Tommy Monk wrote:You Are talking bollocks... as usual...

You forgotten you are talking to yourself in the mirror again Tommy, where you just endlessly call yourself a twat?



As judicator, I nominate your reflection the winner

Tommy Monk wrote:You Are talking bollocks... as usual...

yet the consensus is that its you talking bollux funny that ,now your claiming all people who are from single parents are defective or deficient in some way lacking in something

keep digging your hole its very entertaining

Cuchulain wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:You Are talking bollocks... as usual...

You forgotten you are talking to yourself in the mirror again Tommy, where you just endlessly call yourself a twat?



As judicator, I nominate your reflection the winner

seconded...can we put it to a vote ?

the premise is that tommy is a idiot all in agreement say Aye

korban dallas wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


You forgotten you are talking to yourself in the mirror again Tommy, where you just endlessly call yourself a twat?



As judicator, I nominate your reflection the winner

seconded...can we put it to a vote ?

the premise is that tommy is a idiot all in agreement say Aye

Who needs to vote mate when you are stating the blatantly obvious..lol

Cheers korben, havea lovely evening

All studies show that a child does best in a normal family home environment with a mother and A father!!!



Children are not pawns in a game of 'progressive' top trumps and should not be fodder for a social experiment, or to be used to massage the sensitivities of a couple of homosexuals.

Cuchulain wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
seconded...can we put it to a vote ?

the premise is that tommy is a idiot all in agreement say Aye

Who needs to vote mate when you are stating the blatantly obvious..lol

Cheers korben, havea lovely evening

stating the blatantly obvious was for Tommy benefit not everybody else's:lol:

I notice Tommy STILL hasnt presented ANY evidence to back up his foul homophobic claims

You know the sort of thing ...evidence that children placed with same sex couples having a worse outcome than those placed in his so called "normal families"

of course It could just be that such evidence doesnt exist, becasue the premise is false from the start and merely the twisted figment of a hateful little twerps imagination.....

Normal Functioning Family
Is there any way to tell if my family is functioning normally?

Many parents ask themselves this question, but there is no simple answer, since there can be such broad definitions of the term normal.

Still, there are several characteristics that are generally identified with a well-functioning family. Some include: support; love and caring for other family members; providing security and a sense of belonging; open communication; making each person within the family feel important, valued, respected and esteemed.

Here are some other qualities to consider when evaluating how well your own family is functioning.

   Is there ample humor and fun within your family, despite the very real demands of daily life?
   Does your family have rules that have been clearly stated and are evenly applied, yet are flexible and respond to new situations and changes in the family?
   Are the family's expectations of each person reasonable, realistic, mutually agreed upon and generally fulfilled?
   Do family members achieve most of their individual goals, and are their personal needs being met?
   Do parents and children have genuine respect for one another, demonstrating love, caring, trust, and concern, even when there are disagreements?
   Is your family able to mature and change without everyone getting upset or unhappy?

Maintaining A Healthy Family

In order to provide a supportive, emotionally healthy family environment, you need to devote some thought and energy to the following questions:

   Do you treat each child as an individual? Each child has his own temperament, his own way of viewing and interacting with the world around him. Parents may love their children equally, but naturally will have different sorts of relationships with each of them. Individualize your relationship with each of your children, reinforcing their strengths and talents and avoiding making unflattering comparisons with their siblings or friends.
 
 Does your family have regular routines? Children and parents benefit from having some predictable day-to-day routines. Morning schedules, mealtimes and bedtimes are easier for everyone when they follow a pattern. Children also appreciate family rituals and traditions around birthdays, holidays and vacations.

  Is your family an active participant in your extended family and the community? Families work better when they feel connected and supported by friends and relatives. Usually such relationships require that parents make an active effort to get together with others socially or for civic projects.
 
 Are your expectations of yourself and other family members realistic? Your child's self-awareness, knowledge and skills are constantly changing. Observe, read and talk to others to learn what can reasonably be expected of your child at each stage of development. Parents, too, have limitations on what they can accomplish, given their resources and the time available. There are no "superparents," just individuals doing their best.

Does the time you spend with your family members contribute to good relationships among you? Most of the time you and your child and your spouse spend together should be fun, relaxed, meaningful and relatively conflict-free.

As a parent, singly or as a couple, are you taking care of your own needs? You should be leading a healthy personal life (including proper diet, exercise and sleep habits). Set aside time, however brief, for things you enjoy. Your children will thrive when your own emotional needs are being met. They do best when they are reared by parents who are in a harmonious relationship with each other.
 
Do you take moral and social responsibility for your own life? You are the most important role model for your child. Demonstrate your value system through actions as well as words.

Nothing in there about same sex couples unless you consider homosexuality as morally repugnant and if so demonstrates your bias and hate for the LGBT community and as its legal to be LGBT and not against the moral attitudes of society as a whole as it was in the sixty's

so  another failed argument from Tommy blooper

ps its says parents NOT mother and A father

Not at all... a couple of homosexuals can't produce a Child so will never be a childs parents...

And since you like wiki quotes so much

The social science literature rejects the notion that there is an optimal gender mix of parents or that children and adolescents with same-sex parents suffer any developmental disadvantages compared with those with two opposite-sex parents


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parent

did that just say what I thought it said??

so what tommy is saying is that step parents can never be "real" oarents to the child they take on on a relationship?
or that adoptive parents in general can never be parents to the adopted child?

methinks tommy comes from another planet

or is desperate to prop up his failed argument, therby making an even bigger prat of himself

Tommy Monk wrote:Not at all... a couple of homosexuals can't produce a Child so will never be a childs parents...

Tommy crashes and burns once again

A parent is a caretaker of the offspring in their own species. In humans, a parent is of a child (where "child" refers to offspring, not necessarily age). A biological parent consists of a person whose gamete resulted in a child, a male through the sperm, and a female through the ovum. Parents are first-degree relatives and have 50% genetic overlap. A female can also become a parent through surrogacy. However, some parents may not be biologically related to their children. An adoptive parent is one who nurtures and raises the offspring of the biological parents but is not actually biologically related to the child. Children without adoptive parents can be raised by their grandparents or other family members.

A parent can also be elaborated as an ancestor removed one generation. With recent medical advances, it is possible to have more than two biological parents.Examples of third biological parents include instances involving surrogacy or a third person who has provided DNA samples during an assisted reproductive procedure that has altered the recipients genetic material.

The most common types of parents are mothers, fathers, and grandparents. A mother is "a woman in relation to a child or children to whom she has given birth


go this is so easy thanks for supporting your arguments with wiki quotes it saves me loads of time

victorismyhero wrote:did that just say what I thought it said??

so what tommy is saying is that step parents can never be "real" oarents to the child they take on on a relationship?
or that adoptive parents in general can never be parents to the adopted child?

methinks tommy comes from another planet

or is desperate to prop up his failed argument, therby making an even bigger prat of himself

i believe you did, but you have to keep hammering that nail one day he might actually get it

korban dallas wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:did that just say what I thought it said??

so what tommy is saying is that step parents can never be "real" oarents to the child they take on on a relationship?
or that adoptive parents in general can never be parents to the adopted child?

methinks tommy comes from another planet

or is desperate to prop up his failed argument, therby making an even bigger prat of himself

i believe you did, but you have to keep hammering that nail one day he might actually get it

yeah, BUT......Its like trying to hammer nails into concrete

I have not used any Wiki quotes you numb nut!!!



The studies show parents as in the normal biological sense of being natural mother and father...



More twisting from the twisted lefties trying to pursue their twisted agenda...

victorismyhero wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
i believe you did, but you have to keep hammering that nail one day he might actually get it

yeah, BUT......Its like trying to hammer nails into concrete

copper ones at that and i misunderstood your comment yes it did say what you thought it said ......weird eh?

evidence tommy evidence....not your highly questionable and subjective homophobia.....

victorismyhero wrote:sad innit....tommy know nowt is too dumb to know he's dumb

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Tommy Monk wrote:I have not used any Wiki quotes you numb nut!!!



The studies show parents as in the normal biological sense of being natural mother and father...



More twisting from the twisted lefties trying to pursue their twisted agenda...

No not on this one but you did on the thread about gravity in fact you advised me to argue with the quote although you got the whole thing wrong as a proceeded to show
thus demonstrating you use wiki as you primary source of rebuttal when it suites you and you think (wrongly )it supports your view

so could you show me where its states that same sex parents are worse parents ?
you keep saying it but provide no peer reviewed literature to back up that claim

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.


says it all really ......

No surprise that none of You can actually argue successfully against my points so just resort to complete dismissal of them and me as "stupid"...



This way you can all claim to be mentally superior and to have 'won'...!!!


Bravo!!!


And none of You have actually considered what the pawns in your game night actually want... but they don't really matter to you do they!!!???

Gay Parents As Good As Straight Ones

http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/gay-parents-as-good-as-straight-ones/


i could post the piece but suffice to say it does not support your view

Tommy Monk wrote:No surprise that none of You can actually argue successfully against my points so just resort to complete dismissal of them and me as "stupid"...



This way you can all claim to be mentally superior and to have 'won'...!!!


Bravo!!!


And none of You have actually considered what the pawns in your game night actually want... but they don't really matter to you do they!!!???

actually my dogs are mentally superior to you Tommy

you havnt provided anything but your own biased and repulsive idiocy to argue against...

YOU canyt provide any evidence that what you "claim" is right or even near the mark...just foul and homophobic hatred dressed up as "opinion".
SURELY tommy...if what you claim is true there must be studies showiing this......Oh ...thats right...there are none...

just your pathetic inadequacy sqeaking like a mouse thats been stood on.....

Tommy Monk wrote:No surprise that none of You can actually argue successfully against my points so just resort to complete dismissal of them and me as "stupid"...



This way you can all claim to be mentally superior and to have 'won'...!!!


Bravo!!!


And none of You have actually considered what the pawns in your game night actually want... but they don't really matter to you do they!!!???

the amoeba living in my water butt are mentally superior to tommy.....

Ok...

Tommy is still using the term 'progressive' and yet incapable of defining what that means.

He is out of his depth, just a parrot of Condell with no real mind of his own.

Eilzel wrote:Tommy is still using the term 'progressive' and yet incapable of defining what that means.

He is out of his depth, just a parrot of Condell with no real mind of his own.

we already discussed this Progressive means 'the desire to Improve things' TM hates improving things

what is worse is that Condell is laughably dumb and uneducated and people still parrot him

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=progressive


First few are pretty accurate descriptions...