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Oh dear, and it's been legalised.
If you’ve ever hoped conservatives would just shut the f*ck up about marriage equality and light themselves on fire or something, you might just get your wish. Homophobic hate pastor Rick Scarborough, who says he has 44,500 followers prepared to go to join in defense of so-called “traditional marriage,” appears to have promised to set himself on fire to fight gay marriage.
While some Christians have promised to divorce if gay marriage passes in their neck of the woods, Scarborough decided he would not be outdone. “We’re simply being preemptive and saying, no matter what the cost, we are not going to bow, we are not going to bend, and we will burn,” Scarborough said on a recent National Emergency Coalition conference call hosted by fellow hatemonger E.W. Jackson.
Christian Pastor Promises To Set Himself On Fire If Gay Marriage Is Legalized Nationwide (AUDIO)
Author: John Prager June 25, 2015 9:07 am
If you’ve ever hoped conservatives would just shut the f*ck up about marriage equality and light themselves on fire or something, you might just get your wish. Homophobic hate pastor Rick Scarborough, who says he has 44,500 followers prepared to go to join in defense of so-called “traditional marriage,” appears to have promised to set himself on fire to fight gay marriage.
While some Christians have promised to divorce if gay marriage passes in their neck of the woods, Scarborough decided he would not be outdone. “We’re simply being preemptive and saying, no matter what the cost, we are not going to bow, we are not going to bend, and we will burn,” Scarborough said on a recent National Emergency Coalition conference call hosted by fellow hatemonger E.W. Jackson.
While Scarborough plans to “burn” in opposition of two people who love one another getting married, he has an idea for pastors who support his insane and hateful viewpoints: Go get yourselves shot.
“The preachers need to get out front, the leaders need to get out front, out front of these ordinary citizens and say, ‘Shoot me first,’” said Scarborough said, referencing bakers and florists (and, we suppose, pizza shop owners) who are being “persecuted” for their desire to persecute others.
According to Scarborough, gay marriage is a Satanic plot. “The end game is the complete destruction of the church of the Lord Jesus, the replacement of it with this liberal theology that’s not a theology, it’s a philosophy, human-made, it goes back to the Garden of Eden when Satan wanted to be God,” he said. “We now have a race of humans that don’t want to acknowledge that there’s a God.”
“They’re after God,” he said of the Supreme Court Justices who may soon strike down state bans on same-sex marriage. “This country better be aware, we’ve suffered a lot of injustices, but I’m not sure God is going to tolerate this one very long.”
In April, Scarborough called for an anti-gay Martin Luther King, Jr. to rise up and lead the fight against tolerance and understanding — even if it means (you guessed it) a revolution.
“So we have an extraordinary moment where we might be losing just about everything…if an adverse decision is not met with resistance,” Scarborough warned of the upcoming Supreme Court decision in another conference call with Jackson — and why not? After all, marriage equality will make Christianity illegal, apparently.
“We don’t capitulate, we fight until we die, we push back with all our might,” Scarborough said earlier this year, comparing the fight against equality with Lutheran theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s fight against the Nazis, which led to his death.
“Are we going to sit back and let the country be destroyed? Or as believers, are we going to stand up and be counted?” he asked. “As for me and my house, we’re going to serve the Lord for this, we’re going to go to jail if necessary, we are not going to take this just sitting back and watching it.”
Scarborough’s hatred is shared by a fringe of the religious Right, including Tempe, Arizona pastor Stephen Anderson, who presented a cure for AIDS (which both Anderson and Scarborough believe is a “gay” disease) in December: Execute all the “homos”, “faggots”, and “reprobate.”
“Turn to Leviticus 20:13,” Anderson told his congregation, “because I actually discovered the cure for AIDS.” Anderson explained that “everybody’s talking about” having an AIDS-free world by 2020. He explained that “we can have an AIDS-free world by Christmas” if we would follow what it says in Leviticus.
“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them,” he quoted from Leviticus. “And that, my friend, is the cure for AIDS. It was right there in the Bible all along — and they’re out spending billions of dollars in research and testing. It’s curable — right there. Because if you executed the homos like God recommends, you wouldn’t have all this AIDS running rampant.”
Christians across the country need to rise up and condemn men who use their religion to push hatred — or, at minimum, tax exempt status must be revoked for any religious organization that pushes a political agenda — including attempts to deny rights to LGBT individuals.
It’s that simple.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/25/christian-pastor-promises-to-set-himself-on-fire-if-gay-marriage-is-legalized-nationwide-audio/
Audio tape on link. As it's been passed, now what is he going to do?
Oh dear, and it's been legalised.
If you’ve ever hoped conservatives would just shut the f*ck up about marriage equality and light themselves on fire or something, you might just get your wish. Homophobic hate pastor Rick Scarborough, who says he has 44,500 followers prepared to go to join in defense of so-called “traditional marriage,” appears to have promised to set himself on fire to fight gay marriage.
While some Christians have promised to divorce if gay marriage passes in their neck of the woods, Scarborough decided he would not be outdone. “We’re simply being preemptive and saying, no matter what the cost, we are not going to bow, we are not going to bend, and we will burn,” Scarborough said on a recent National Emergency Coalition conference call hosted by fellow hatemonger E.W. Jackson.
Christian Pastor Promises To Set Himself On Fire If Gay Marriage Is Legalized Nationwide (AUDIO)
Author: John Prager June 25, 2015 9:07 am
If you’ve ever hoped conservatives would just shut the f*ck up about marriage equality and light themselves on fire or something, you might just get your wish. Homophobic hate pastor Rick Scarborough, who says he has 44,500 followers prepared to go to join in defense of so-called “traditional marriage,” appears to have promised to set himself on fire to fight gay marriage.
While some Christians have promised to divorce if gay marriage passes in their neck of the woods, Scarborough decided he would not be outdone. “We’re simply being preemptive and saying, no matter what the cost, we are not going to bow, we are not going to bend, and we will burn,” Scarborough said on a recent National Emergency Coalition conference call hosted by fellow hatemonger E.W. Jackson.
While Scarborough plans to “burn” in opposition of two people who love one another getting married, he has an idea for pastors who support his insane and hateful viewpoints: Go get yourselves shot.
“The preachers need to get out front, the leaders need to get out front, out front of these ordinary citizens and say, ‘Shoot me first,’” said Scarborough said, referencing bakers and florists (and, we suppose, pizza shop owners) who are being “persecuted” for their desire to persecute others.
According to Scarborough, gay marriage is a Satanic plot. “The end game is the complete destruction of the church of the Lord Jesus, the replacement of it with this liberal theology that’s not a theology, it’s a philosophy, human-made, it goes back to the Garden of Eden when Satan wanted to be God,” he said. “We now have a race of humans that don’t want to acknowledge that there’s a God.”
“They’re after God,” he said of the Supreme Court Justices who may soon strike down state bans on same-sex marriage. “This country better be aware, we’ve suffered a lot of injustices, but I’m not sure God is going to tolerate this one very long.”
In April, Scarborough called for an anti-gay Martin Luther King, Jr. to rise up and lead the fight against tolerance and understanding — even if it means (you guessed it) a revolution.
“So we have an extraordinary moment where we might be losing just about everything…if an adverse decision is not met with resistance,” Scarborough warned of the upcoming Supreme Court decision in another conference call with Jackson — and why not? After all, marriage equality will make Christianity illegal, apparently.
“We don’t capitulate, we fight until we die, we push back with all our might,” Scarborough said earlier this year, comparing the fight against equality with Lutheran theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s fight against the Nazis, which led to his death.
“Are we going to sit back and let the country be destroyed? Or as believers, are we going to stand up and be counted?” he asked. “As for me and my house, we’re going to serve the Lord for this, we’re going to go to jail if necessary, we are not going to take this just sitting back and watching it.”
Scarborough’s hatred is shared by a fringe of the religious Right, including Tempe, Arizona pastor Stephen Anderson, who presented a cure for AIDS (which both Anderson and Scarborough believe is a “gay” disease) in December: Execute all the “homos”, “faggots”, and “reprobate.”
“Turn to Leviticus 20:13,” Anderson told his congregation, “because I actually discovered the cure for AIDS.” Anderson explained that “everybody’s talking about” having an AIDS-free world by 2020. He explained that “we can have an AIDS-free world by Christmas” if we would follow what it says in Leviticus.
“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them,” he quoted from Leviticus. “And that, my friend, is the cure for AIDS. It was right there in the Bible all along — and they’re out spending billions of dollars in research and testing. It’s curable — right there. Because if you executed the homos like God recommends, you wouldn’t have all this AIDS running rampant.”
Christians across the country need to rise up and condemn men who use their religion to push hatred — or, at minimum, tax exempt status must be revoked for any religious organization that pushes a political agenda — including attempts to deny rights to LGBT individuals.
It’s that simple.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/25/christian-pastor-promises-to-set-himself-on-fire-if-gay-marriage-is-legalized-nationwide-audio/
Audio tape on link. As it's been passed, now what is he going to do?
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:eilizel the bigot
Dry your eyes mate.
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:eilizel the bigot
typical bigots are always the same, shout for their rights but are not interested in anyone elses...
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you mean he's NOT going to end up a pile of smouldering cinders....
aww...I was gonna lend him my lighter.......
aww...I was gonna lend him my lighter.......
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funny how all the gay marriage threads are getting attention but the terrorist attacks in three different countries are just skipped by .
I guess the slaughter of innocent people isn't important .
I guess the slaughter of innocent people isn't important .
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:funny how all the gay marriage threads are getting attention but the terrorist attacks in three different countries are just skipped by .
I guess the slaughter of innocent people isn't important .
not as important as gays forcing their rights above others of course...
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:funny how all the gay marriage threads are getting attention but the terrorist attacks in three different countries are just skipped by .
I guess the slaughter of innocent people isn't important .
The reason this thread has gone on longer is simple.
We are all collectively outraged by Islamist atrocities in the Middle East- people go on the thread to say so and that's it. No disagreement, done.
Meanwhile, most come on a thread like this to share in the joy of a great moment of acceptance. But a couple of naysayers try and spoil all that because they disagree- so debate breaks out.
Debate is no bad thing of course. But when everyone agrees there is no debate- hence this thread is busier than those other threads.
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considering it you and your attitudes that force all the attention to these threads by you disgusting small minded and intolerable attitudes perhaps you would do better shuting your orifice, then folks could turn to whats going on elsewhere....
and again of course HF (as he mostly does) tells a big fat LIE.....
because lies are his only refuge....
wonder what else is a lie...
perhaps his whole online persona, with his big house and directorship
perhaps his "christianity" (well thats a lie anyhow.)
perhaps his alter ego vod (anyone think HF might just be bright enough to "dual box")
and again of course HF (as he mostly does) tells a big fat LIE.....
because lies are his only refuge....
wonder what else is a lie...
perhaps his whole online persona, with his big house and directorship
perhaps his "christianity" (well thats a lie anyhow.)
perhaps his alter ego vod (anyone think HF might just be bright enough to "dual box")
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Eilzel wrote:Vicar of Dibley wrote:funny how all the gay marriage threads are getting attention but the terrorist attacks in three different countries are just skipped by .
I guess the slaughter of innocent people isn't important .
The reason this thread has gone on longer is simple.
We are all collectively outraged by Islamist atrocities in the Middle East- people go on the thread to say so and that's it. No disagreement, done.
Meanwhile, most come on a thread like this to share in the joy of a great moment of acceptance. But a couple of naysayers try and spoil all that because they disagree- so debate breaks out.
Debate is no bad thing of course. But when everyone agrees there is no debate- hence this thread is busier than those other threads.
i would have thought the only joy you get from a great movement is on the toilet reading the paper......
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Eilzel wrote:Vicar of Dibley wrote:funny how all the gay marriage threads are getting attention but the terrorist attacks in three different countries are just skipped by .
I guess the slaughter of innocent people isn't important .
The reason this thread has gone on longer is simple.
We are all collectively outraged by Islamist atrocities in the Middle East- people go on the thread to say so and that's it. No disagreement, done.
Meanwhile, most come on a thread like this to share in the joy of a great moment of acceptance. But a couple of naysayers try and spoil all that because they disagree- so debate breaks out.
Debate is no bad thing of course. But when everyone agrees there is no debate- hence this thread is busier than those other threads.
You are elated of course because it is what you wanted to force your sexuality and equal rights on others especially Christians because you think you should be and have a right to be accepted by everyone . Well can you say you accept the same of Christians right not to accept your sexuality when it goes against what we believe ?
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:Eilzel wrote:
The reason this thread has gone on longer is simple.
We are all collectively outraged by Islamist atrocities in the Middle East- people go on the thread to say so and that's it. No disagreement, done.
Meanwhile, most come on a thread like this to share in the joy of a great moment of acceptance. But a couple of naysayers try and spoil all that because they disagree- so debate breaks out.
Debate is no bad thing of course. But when everyone agrees there is no debate- hence this thread is busier than those other threads.
You are elated of course because it is what you wanted to force your sexuality and equal rights on others especially Christians because you think you should be and have a right to be accepted by everyone . Well can you say you accept the same of Christians right not to accept your sexuality when it goes against what we believe ?
bigots like to get their own way... it's that simple..
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:Eilzel wrote:
The reason this thread has gone on longer is simple.
We are all collectively outraged by Islamist atrocities in the Middle East- people go on the thread to say so and that's it. No disagreement, done.
Meanwhile, most come on a thread like this to share in the joy of a great moment of acceptance. But a couple of naysayers try and spoil all that because they disagree- so debate breaks out.
Debate is no bad thing of course. But when everyone agrees there is no debate- hence this thread is busier than those other threads.
You are elated of course because it is what you wanted to force your sexuality and equal rights on others especially Christians because you think you should be and have a right to be accepted by everyone . Well can you say you accept the same of Christians right not to accept your sexuality when it goes against what we believe ?
I am elated because now American gay couples have the right to have their marriage recognized as equal to everyone elses, and all the legal rights that go with it.
That isn't forcing anything, no one is forcing anyone to get married silly.
And I can say I accept some backward Christians not to accepting my sexuality- as long as their 'beliefs' don't lead to them discriminating against gay people in ANY way at all.
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Eilzel wrote:Vicar of Dibley wrote:
You are elated of course because it is what you wanted to force your sexuality and equal rights on others especially Christians because you think you should be and have a right to be accepted by everyone . Well can you say you accept the same of Christians right not to accept your sexuality when it goes against what we believe ?
I am elated because now American gay couples have the right to have their marriage recognized as equal to everyone elses, and all the legal rights that go with it.
That isn't forcing anything, no one is forcing anyone to get married silly.
And I can say I accept some backward Christians not to accepting my sexuality- as long as their 'beliefs' don't lead to them discriminating against gay people in ANY way at all.
will you be voting for those committing incest to get legally married and consensual peado couples of course??
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It isn't backward christians it is what the bible says and Christians won't go against the word of God , gays want Christians to change the word of God don't they .
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Loads of paedo couples are already married.
What a daft thing to say
What a daft thing to say
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heavenlyfatheragain wrote:Eilzel wrote:
I am elated because now American gay couples have the right to have their marriage recognized as equal to everyone elses, and all the legal rights that go with it.
That isn't forcing anything, no one is forcing anyone to get married silly.
And I can say I accept some backward Christians not to accepting my sexuality- as long as their 'beliefs' don't lead to them discriminating against gay people in ANY way at all.
will you be voting for those committing incest to get legally married and consensual peado couples of course??
There is no such vote planned:
The above points you copied over to this thread have been answered by the following:
The above falls at the first hurdle because it fails to rationalize.
What you fail to understand is we have moved away from Biblical reasoning to rational human thinking.
Through the centuries humanity's understanding has increased from century to century.
Now in the past in England there was no criminal act let alone a law for age of consent. Only in the 16th century did they make it a crime to abuse girls under 10. Boys were not covered There is no age of consent to be found in the the religious books. Which people like you who took a literal view from the bible that this deity was fine to allow child marriages. The evidence throughout the centuries shows pedophilia was acceptable to many Christians at the time. Also Jews and Muslims as well.
Now under Christianity homosexual acts are deemed as major sin warranting death. So from the start of Christianity, it denied previous equality that homosexuals enjoyed. So we see a pattern here. Christianity from the start allows child brides and takes away all rights for homosexuals. As seen throughout time it has been human reasoning that has seen that child brides are wrong and under age sex. It was reasoning that understood that two adults of a mature again love, is not a crime. They had been wrongly believing a barbaric deity existed in the form of the Abrahamic faiths.
So homosexuals once had equality. Christianity and Islam came along and denied them this. Christianity and Islam also make it acceptable to marry children. Thankfully human rational reasoning , rightly placing the children's needs first unlike the bible which does allow child brides. So unless people have a complete meltdown and turn en mass to a literal belief of one of these faiths, would be the only real possibility of allowing child brides to happen again and pedophilia. Secular thinking understands that a child has not fully developed or matured until they reach 16. So only religion becoming the dominant force would see pedophilia legalized again. It would also end up taking away many peoples rights, based on the beliefs in the books. so homosexuals, women etc, would lose there equal rights and would be treated with discrimination. Slavery could also be reintroduced under religious control.
If you do not believe me?
Look where there is problems of child brides still today and women discriminated against?
In Theocracies
So their is very little chance of religion making a U-turn of followers in the west. So you have nothing to worry about pedophilia being made legal. Only a literal belief in the Abrahamic faiths would bring making child brides legal.
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Cuchulain wrote:heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
will you be voting for those committing incest to get legally married and consensual peado couples of course??
There is no such vote planned:
The above points you copied over to this thread have been answered by the following:
The above falls at the first hurdle because it fails to rationalize.
What you fail to understand is we have moved away from Biblical reasoning to rational human thinking.
Through the centuries humanity's understanding has increased from century to century.
Now in the past in England there was no criminal act let alone a law for age of consent. Only in the 16th century did they make it a crime to abuse girls under 10. Boys were not covered There is no age of consent to be found in the the religious books. Which people like you who took a literal view from the bible that this deity was fine to allow child marriages. The evidence throughout the centuries shows pedophilia was acceptable to many Christians at the time. Also Jews and Muslims as well.
Now under Christianity homosexual acts are deemed as major sin warranting death. So from the start of Christianity, it denied previous equality that homosexuals enjoyed. So we see a pattern here. Christianity from the start allows child brides and takes away all rights for homosexuals. As seen throughout time it has been human reasoning that has seen that child brides are wrong and under age sex. It was reasoning that understood that two adults of a mature again love, is not a crime. They had been wrongly believing a barbaric deity existed in the form of the Abrahamic faiths.
So homosexuals once had equality. Christianity and Islam came along and denied them this. Christianity and Islam also make it acceptable to marry children. Thankfully human rational reasoning , rightly placing the children's needs first unlike the bible which does allow child brides. So unless people have a complete meltdown and turn en mass to a literal belief of one of these faiths, would be the only real possibility of allowing child brides to happen again and pedophilia. Secular thinking understands that a child has not fully developed or matured until they reach 16. So only religion becoming the dominant force would see pedophilia legalized again. It would also end up taking away many peoples rights, based on the beliefs in the books. so homosexuals, women etc, would lose there equal rights and would be treated with discrimination. Slavery could also be reintroduced under religious control.
If you do not believe me?
Look where there is problems of child brides still today and women discriminated against?
In Theocracies
So their is very little chance of religion making a U-turn of followers in the west. So you have nothing to worry about pedophilia being made legal. Only a literal belief in the Abrahamic faiths would bring making child brides legal.
until when the vote is only fair if a peado and a ten year old love each other very much they should be allowed to marry, the same with a mother and son or father and daughter, it is only fair, equal rights and all that..
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:It isn't backward christians it is what the bible says and Christians won't go against the word of God , gays want against Christians to change the word of God don't they .
Some gays are Christian silly, so no.
I don't care what god's word says, or Allah's or Rama's or Buddha's or the Flying Spaghetti Monster's. They are meaningless.
As long as I can live my life without religions trying to force their ways and rules on me or anyone else, then people can believe what they want.
^didge, Eds, you guys have the patience of saints. That thing and it's wife are the only ones who seem to be pushing for unconsenting marriages
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Eilzel wrote:Vicar of Dibley wrote:It isn't backward christians it is what the bible says and Christians won't go against the word of God , gays want against Christians to change the word of God don't they .
Some gays are Christian silly, so no.
I don't care what god's word says, or Allah's or Rama's or Buddha's or the Flying Spaghetti Monster's. They are meaningless.
As long as I can live my life without religions trying to force their ways and rules on me or anyone else, then people can believe what they want.
^didge, Eds, you guys have the patience of saints. That thing and it's wife are the only ones who seem to be pushing for unconsenting marriages
lol..no gays are Christians they just can't read..lol
if mother and brother consent should they be allowed to marry??
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heavenlyfatheragain wrote:Cuchulain wrote:
There is no such vote planned:
The above points you copied over to this thread have been answered by the following:
The above falls at the first hurdle because it fails to rationalize.
What you fail to understand is we have moved away from Biblical reasoning to rational human thinking.
Through the centuries humanity's understanding has increased from century to century.
Now in the past in England there was no criminal act let alone a law for age of consent. Only in the 16th century did they make it a crime to abuse girls under 10. Boys were not covered There is no age of consent to be found in the the religious books. Which people like you who took a literal view from the bible that this deity was fine to allow child marriages. The evidence throughout the centuries shows pedophilia was acceptable to many Christians at the time. Also Jews and Muslims as well.
Now under Christianity homosexual acts are deemed as major sin warranting death. So from the start of Christianity, it denied previous equality that homosexuals enjoyed. So we see a pattern here. Christianity from the start allows child brides and takes away all rights for homosexuals. As seen throughout time it has been human reasoning that has seen that child brides are wrong and under age sex. It was reasoning that understood that two adults of a mature again love, is not a crime. They had been wrongly believing a barbaric deity existed in the form of the Abrahamic faiths.
So homosexuals once had equality. Christianity and Islam came along and denied them this. Christianity and Islam also make it acceptable to marry children. Thankfully human rational reasoning , rightly placing the children's needs first unlike the bible which does allow child brides. So unless people have a complete meltdown and turn en mass to a literal belief of one of these faiths, would be the only real possibility of allowing child brides to happen again and pedophilia. Secular thinking understands that a child has not fully developed or matured until they reach 16. So only religion becoming the dominant force would see pedophilia legalized again. It would also end up taking away many peoples rights, based on the beliefs in the books. so homosexuals, women etc, would lose there equal rights and would be treated with discrimination. Slavery could also be reintroduced under religious control.
If you do not believe me?
Look where there is problems of child brides still today and women discriminated against?
In Theocracies
So their is very little chance of religion making a U-turn of followers in the west. So you have nothing to worry about pedophilia being made legal. Only a literal belief in the Abrahamic faiths would bring making child brides legal.
until when the vote is only fair if a peado and a ten year old love each other very much they should be allowed to marry, the same with a mother and son or father and daughter, it is only fair, equal rights and all that..
HF is now supporting pedophilia to be made legal highlighted above failing to understand why it is illegal. He thinks a 10 year old is mature enough to understand love in the capacity of a relationship and marriage. He thus also must believe there is no medical concern either with children not fully developed to have sex underage.Hence why the age of consent is 16
Again only a mass conversions to literal Christianity, Islam etc would bring back legal pedophilia as it once was under Christianity in the west.
Hence why there is no vote or likley to be a vote
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Cuchulain wrote:heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
until when the vote is only fair if a peado and a ten year old love each other very much they should be allowed to marry, the same with a mother and son or father and daughter, it is only fair, equal rights and all that..
HF is now supporting pedophilia to be made legal highlighted above failing to understand why it is illegal. He thinks a 10 year old is mature enough to understand love in the capacity of a relationship and marriage. He thus also must believe there is no medical concern either with children not fully developed to have sex underage.
Again only a mass conversions to literal Christianity, Islam etc would bring back legal pedophilia as it once was under Christianity in the west.
Hence why there is no vote or likley to be a vote
if the only reason for gays being allowed to marry is that they consent, peados who victim consents should be allowed to marry, the same for someone who would want to marry a direct member of their family, fair is fair, equal rights are equal rights are they not...
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Eilzel wrote:Vicar of Dibley wrote:It isn't backward christians it is what the bible says and Christians won't go against the word of God , gays want against Christians to change the word of God don't they .
Some gays are Christian silly, so no.
I don't care what god's word says, or Allah's or Rama's or Buddha's or the Flying Spaghetti Monster's. They are meaningless.
As long as I can live my life without religions trying to force their ways and rules on me or anyone else, then people can believe what they want.
^didge, Eds, you guys have the patience of saints. That thing and it's wife are the only ones who seem to be pushing for unconsenting marriages
gays may be Christians but they are going against the word of God , but if they truly love God then they are saved but they won't be living in completeness of God .
As for your insults again i haven't insulted you have i les i don't often resort to that but you just insulted me once again .
Our point about unconsenting marriages is a point which you fail to see that now gay marriages are legalized it will only be a matter of time before sons mothers sister brother father daughter want to legalize their relationship just as gays have done.
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I am stunned HF thinks 10 year olds are mature enough to understand sexual relationships both physically and mentally. He thinks there bodies will be fine not fully matured both physically and mentally for this. That is shocking, as children are unable to understand adult relationship love at this age. They are not mature enough to understand and would be very susceptible to grooming at those ages, which is not mutual love. A paedo who commits a sexual act does so knowing they are taking advantage of that child. It quite appalls me how you fail to understand any of this. That is why such an act committed onto a child is deemed as rape, because they are not of a mature enough age to consent.
Its more than just consent from homosexuals.
It does not effect anyone else by two adults being in love.
As I say, only religious control would bring about a lowering of the age of consent
Its more than just consent from homosexuals.
It does not effect anyone else by two adults being in love.
As I say, only religious control would bring about a lowering of the age of consent
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Cuchulain wrote:heavenlyfatheragain wrote:Cuchulain wrote:
There is no such vote planned:
The above points you copied over to this thread have been answered by the following:
The above falls at the first hurdle because it fails to rationalize.
What you fail to understand is we have moved away from Biblical reasoning to rational human thinking.
Through the centuries humanity's understanding has increased from century to century.
Now in the past in England there was no criminal act let alone a law for age of consent. Only in the 16th century did they make it a crime to abuse girls under 10. Boys were not covered There is no age of consent to be found in the the religious books. Which people like you who took a literal view from the bible that this deity was fine to allow child marriages. The evidence throughout the centuries shows pedophilia was acceptable to many Christians at the time. Also Jews and Muslims as well.
Now under Christianity homosexual acts are deemed as major sin warranting death. So from the start of Christianity, it denied previous equality that homosexuals enjoyed. So we see a pattern here. Christianity from the start allows child brides and takes away all rights for homosexuals. As seen throughout time it has been human reasoning that has seen that child brides are wrong and under age sex. It was reasoning that understood that two adults of a mature again love, is not a crime. They had been wrongly believing a barbaric deity existed in the form of the Abrahamic faiths.
So homosexuals once had equality. Christianity and Islam came along and denied them this. Christianity and Islam also make it acceptable to marry children. Thankfully human rational reasoning , rightly placing the children's needs first unlike the bible which does allow child brides. So unless people have a complete meltdown and turn en mass to a literal belief of one of these faiths, would be the only real possibility of allowing child brides to happen again and pedophilia. Secular thinking understands that a child has not fully developed or matured until they reach 16. So only religion becoming the dominant force would see pedophilia legalized again. It would also end up taking away many peoples rights, based on the beliefs in the books. so homosexuals, women etc, would lose there equal rights and would be treated with discrimination. Slavery could also be reintroduced under religious control.
If you do not believe me?
Look where there is problems of child brides still today and women discriminated against?
In Theocracies
So their is very little chance of religion making a U-turn of followers in the west. So you have nothing to worry about pedophilia being made legal. Only a literal belief in the Abrahamic faiths would bring making child brides legal.
until when the vote is only fair if a peado and a ten year old love each other very much they should be allowed to marry, the same with a mother and son or father and daughter, it is only fair, equal rights and all that..
HF is now supporting pedophilia to be made legal highlighted above failing to understand why it is illegal. He thinks a 10 year old is mature enough to understand love in the capacity of a relationship and marriage. He thus also must believe there is no medical concern either with children not fully developed to have sex underage.Hence why the age of consent is 16
Again only a mass conversions to literal Christianity, Islam etc would bring back legal pedophilia as it once was under Christianity in the west.
Hence why there is no vote or likley to be a vote
He's getting slightly ridiculous tbh
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eddie wrote:Cuchulain wrote:
HF is now supporting pedophilia to be made legal highlighted above failing to understand why it is illegal. He thinks a 10 year old is mature enough to understand love in the capacity of a relationship and marriage. He thus also must believe there is no medical concern either with children not fully developed to have sex underage.Hence why the age of consent is 16
Again only a mass conversions to literal Christianity, Islam etc would bring back legal pedophilia as it once was under Christianity in the west.
Hence why there is no vote or likley to be a vote
He's getting slightly ridiculous tbh
True Eddie. Anyway have said my views, no need to say anymore as his will just go around in circles
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HF isn't supporting pedophillia being made legal he simply pointing out that all this gay marriage started the same way , it used to be illegal for same sex couples to marry now it isn't so what to say the next step won't be pedos wanting to legalize marrying children after all the age consent for sex was nearly lowered to 12 for girls and boys i believe .
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:HF isn't supporting pedophillia being made legal he simply pointing out that all this gay marriage started the same way , it used to be illegal for same sex couples to marry now it isn't so what to say the next step won't be pedos wanting to legalize marrying children after all the age consent for sex was nearly lowered to 12 for girls and boys i believe .
That is not the case at all though is it Dibs.
As shown already Child brides were once acceptable, now they are not accepted for the countless reasons given. Only the Abrahamic faiths though their holy books and believers made child brides acceptable, of which still happens today. On the other hand it was these same faiths though the followers that denied them where they had rights to criminalizing them based off nothing more than a phrase found within a book called the Bible and the Quran. Homosexuals are rightly heading in the right direction to equality.
Child abusers do not and cannot form consensual loving relationships with children. As the children are not mature enough to understand and hence why any sexual penetration by pedophiles is treated as rape
Unlike homosexual relationships between two "consenting" adults, in "love" do not effect anyone.
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:HF isn't supporting pedophillia being made legal he simply pointing out that all this gay marriage started the same way , it used to be illegal for same sex couples to marry now it isn't so what to say the next step won't be pedos wanting to legalize marrying children after all the age consent for sex was nearly lowered to 12 for girls and boys i believe .
if they believed in equality they would believe that any couples in love should be allowed to marry that could include peados, incestual marriages... it was a gay rights campaigner who said sex between adults and children is not always abusive or bad...
so guess where they are coming from...
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didge yes that is true but the point my husband is making is that once one group want their lifestyle legalized it will only be a matter of time that others who claim to love each other such as sister brother mother son father daughter , donkey owner and will claim they love each other so have a right to marry and be accepted .
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:didge yes that is true but the point my husband is making is that once one group want their lifestyle legalized it will only be a matter of time that others who claim to love each other such as sister brother mother son father daughter , donkey owner and will claim they love each other so have a right to marry and be accepted .
I believe that one has happened in america I think it was...the donkey was said to be very happy...
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:HF isn't supporting pedophillia being made legal he simply pointing out that all this gay marriage started the same way , it used to be illegal for same sex couples to marry now it isn't so what to say the next step won't be pedos wanting to legalize marrying children after all the age consent for sex was nearly lowered to 12 for girls and boys i believe .
The key word is CONSENT.
Jeez Vod.
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Again HF still cannot grasp the difference between two mature adults consenting. Compared to a child physically and mentally not mature enough yet to consent or emotionally understand. Hence why any penetration sex is classed as rape.
You are just repeating the same absurd illogical views which I have addressed countless times, without you ever responding to them. At least Dibs debating back some of the points
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You are just repeating the same absurd illogical views which I have addressed countless times, without you ever responding to them. At least Dibs debating back some of the points
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Cuchulain wrote:Again HF still cannot grasp the difference between two mature adults consenting. Compared to a child physically and mentally not mature enough yet to consent or emotionally understand. Hence why any penetration sex is classed as rape.
You are just repeating the same absurd illogical views which I have addressed countless times, without you ever responding to them. At least Dibs debating back some of the points
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so you agree with incestuous marriage then as that of course could be between consenting adults...
what about the campaingner who wanted the consent for homosexual sex to be reduced to 12, if at 12 they could consent to sex should they be allowed to marry??
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It's getting pretty boring tbh and I also think it's a wind up so
I'm off
I'm off
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eddie wrote:It's getting pretty boring tbh and I also think it's a wind up so
I'm off
Have a good evening Eddie
Catch you all later
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obviously you all struggle with equality but push the gay agenda...
what a huge surprise that isn't......
I forget who said "not all sex with children is unwanted and abusive"... i think he campaigns for something...
what a huge surprise that isn't......
I forget who said "not all sex with children is unwanted and abusive"... i think he campaigns for something...
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I see the religious mental cripple is still waffling from a point that in fact has no point.
round and round in circles he goes denying the replies and spouting bullshit.
that he does this should be of little surprise to anyone ...after all he does it every day in order to maintain his so called belief in his immaginary cloudman and the fact he's saved.
deny the actual reality and feed yourself a diet of crap is second nature to it..
what could you expect from a dual boxing psycho?
round and round in circles he goes denying the replies and spouting bullshit.
that he does this should be of little surprise to anyone ...after all he does it every day in order to maintain his so called belief in his immaginary cloudman and the fact he's saved.
deny the actual reality and feed yourself a diet of crap is second nature to it..
what could you expect from a dual boxing psycho?
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are you still angry victor
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mentor wrote:I see the religious mental cripple is still waffling from a point that in fact has no point.
round and round in circles he goes denying the replies and spouting bullshit.
that he does this should be of little surprise to anyone ...after all he does it every day in order to maintain his so called belief in his immaginary cloudman and the fact he's saved.
deny the actual reality and feed yourself a diet of crap is second nature to it..
what could you expect from a dual boxing psycho?
Stick 'em on ignore Victor, I don't suffer fools, and them's real fools.
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:are you still angry victor
oh HFmkII again....
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we don't have a dog or a goat
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and again of course HF (as he mostly does) tells a big fat LIE.....
because lies are his only refuge....
wonder what else is a lie...
perhaps his whole online persona, with his big house and directorship
perhaps his "christianity" (well thats a lie anyhow.)
perhaps his alter ego vod (anyone think HF might just be bright enough to "dual box") is purely fantasy
I mean who would marry such a miserable and vile non entity
because lies are his only refuge....
wonder what else is a lie...
perhaps his whole online persona, with his big house and directorship
perhaps his "christianity" (well thats a lie anyhow.)
perhaps his alter ego vod (anyone think HF might just be bright enough to "dual box") is purely fantasy
I mean who would marry such a miserable and vile non entity
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mentor wrote:and again of course HF (as he mostly does) tells a big fat LIE.....
because lies are his only refuge....
wonder what else is a lie...
perhaps his whole online persona, with his big house and directorship
perhaps his "christianity" (well thats a lie anyhow.)
perhaps his alter ego vod (anyone think HF might just be bright enough to "dual box") is purely fantasy
I mean who would marry such a miserable and vile non entity
The Polish Polisher? LOL
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:are you still angry victor
lol......
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Vicar of Dibley wrote:we don't have a dog or a goat
lol.... don't stop him it's fun to hear him babble.....
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and away we go ...
the drooling laughter of the sanatorium inmate
HF's answer to the unanswerable "lol"
what a miserable pitiful damaged creature it is indeed....along with its equally damaged " immaginary other"
the drooling laughter of the sanatorium inmate
HF's answer to the unanswerable "lol"
what a miserable pitiful damaged creature it is indeed....along with its equally damaged " immaginary other"
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see he's off again..lol
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you could always do us a favour HF...
and help support the inflammable pastor........
(psssst...wanna light?)
and help support the inflammable pastor........
(psssst...wanna light?)
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June Is A Lovely Time For A Wedding
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says it all really
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