isis deals with homosexuality???

by Guest Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:15 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3108860/Gripped-ankles-man-held-100ft-drop-bloodthirsty-crowd-wait-watch-dropped-death-ISIS-executioner-hope-survive-finish-off.html

is this done according to sharia..

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:39 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3108860/Gripped-ankles-man-held-100ft-drop-bloodthirsty-crowd-wait-watch-dropped-death-ISIS-executioner-hope-survive-finish-off.html

is this done according to sharia..

It's awful when religions inspire people to kill like this -- http://articles.philly.com/2011-03-18/news/29142081_1_stoning-death-court-documents-police

by Guest Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:37 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3108860/Gripped-ankles-man-held-100ft-drop-bloodthirsty-crowd-wait-watch-dropped-death-ISIS-executioner-hope-survive-finish-off.html

is this done according to sharia..

It's awful when religions inspire people to kill like this -- http://articles.philly.com/2011-03-18/news/29142081_1_stoning-death-court-documents-police

I couldn't agree more, I hope sharia doesn't make it in english law..

by Guest Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:38 am

http://pamelageller.com/2015/05/video-Muslim-attacks-gay-couple-in-ny-restaurant.html/

or the usa....

by Guest Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:40 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3108860/Gripped-ankles-man-held-100ft-drop-bloodthirsty-crowd-wait-watch-dropped-death-ISIS-executioner-hope-survive-finish-off.html

is this done according to sharia..

just cruel and so are the spectators who find this entertaining. The poor guy must have been petrified .

by Raggamuffin Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:51 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

It's awful when religions inspire people to kill like this -- http://articles.philly.com/2011-03-18/news/29142081_1_stoning-death-court-documents-police

I couldn't agree more, I hope sharia doesn't make it in english law..

Well that took the wind out of Ben's sails. Laughing

by Raggamuffin Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:55 am

So who is in the crowd of spectators? Is it ISIS supporters? Is it just local people? Are they trying to stop it? Are they there for entertainment?

How anyone can distinguish between the goodies and the baddies in these places is a mystery to me.

by Fuzzy Zack Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:45 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

It's awful when religions inspire people to kill like this -- http://articles.philly.com/2011-03-18/news/29142081_1_stoning-death-court-documents-police

I couldn't agree more, I hope sharia doesn't make it in english law..

How do you solve a problem like Sharia?

Rogers and Hammerstein have been trying to answer that for over 50 years.

by Fuzzy Zack Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:49 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3108860/Gripped-ankles-man-held-100ft-drop-bloodthirsty-crowd-wait-watch-dropped-death-ISIS-executioner-hope-survive-finish-off.html

is this done according to sharia..

One word: no.

by Guest Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:44 pm

odd what about the islamic countries who hang gays and say i is by sharia law??

by Fuzzy Zack Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:07 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:odd what about the islamic countries who hang gays and say i is by sharia law??

Hanging isn't Sharia either.

by Original Quill Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:16 pm

Quran (4:76) wrote:"Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

The preferable method is big fookin' rocks.

by Guest Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:33 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:odd what about the islamic countries who hang gays and say i is by sharia law??

Hanging isn't Sharia either.

so do these islamic countries hang them illegally...?

by Guest Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:09 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

I couldn't agree more, I hope sharia doesn't make it in english law..

Well that took the wind out of Ben's sails.

didn't it just lol!

by Guest Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:45 pm

I wonder why the looney left in the UK insist that ISIS supporters based here should be allowed their human rights?

by veya_victaous Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:05 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Fuzzy Zack wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:odd what about the islamic countries who hang gays and say i is by sharia law??

Hanging isn't Sharia either.

so do these islamic countries hang them illegally...?

they don't have sharia law
they have their national law that says hanging is punishment

Actually hanging is the British preferred method it is so common because of colonialism.
Stoned to death or decapitation are generally the traditions of the region

by Guest Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:05 am

England no longer have the death penalty , and if it did i certainly don't class homosexuality as any offence . Bloody stupid they aren't doing anything to hurt others , i know homosexuality is illegal in other countries i still don't see it as a capital punishment offence .

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:16 am

I don't know why but I find the crowds more disturbing than the actual people doing the deed. The people doing the deed are clearly horrible and nasty, but what of the crowd? They look like ordinary people and they do appear to be there to support what's happening.

by Guest Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:50 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:England no longer have the death penalty , and if it did i certainly don't class homosexuality as any offence . Bloody stupid they aren't doing anything to hurt others , i know homosexuality is illegal in other countries i still don't see it as a capital punishment offence .

it does show a difference in standards though, Christians say we don't agree with being gay, Muslims hang you for being gay, i would argue the Muslim reaction is slightly more extreme...

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:51 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:England no longer have the death penalty , and if it did i certainly don't class homosexuality as any offence . Bloody stupid they aren't doing anything to hurt others , i know homosexuality is illegal in other countries i still don't see it as a capital punishment offence .

it does show a difference in standards though, Christians say we don't agree with being gay, Muslims hang you for being gay, i would argue the Muslim reaction is slightly more extreme...

Not all Christians say that HF, and probably most Muslims don't either. I don't know for sure because I've never asked one.

by Eilzel Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:15 am

Raggamuffin wrote:I don't know why but I find the crowds more disturbing than the actual people doing the deed. The people doing the deed are clearly horrible and nasty, but what of the crowd? They look like ordinary people and they do appear to be there to support what's happening.

I agree, it's horrible how people will turn out to see others brutalized. I dare say it is a mixture of religious poison and fear of the current people in charge in the area (ISIS). I'm currently reading about Maoist China and purely out of fear friends and family turned on and butchered each other, out of fear of looking soft or anti-communist in the eyes of the regime. The same will almost certainly be true in ISIS controlled areas- if you don't want to see this then you must agree with the victims! Though doubtless the religion will lead some to fully approve of such acts.

Thankfully I have Muslim friends who do not share such views.

by Guest Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:20 am

Raggamuffin wrote:I don't know why but I find the crowds more disturbing than the actual people doing the deed. The people doing the deed are clearly horrible and nasty, but what of the crowd? They look like ordinary people and they do appear to be there to support what's happening.

Good morning Raggs.

ISIS force the crowds to attend for a number of reasons,two of which are these:

1.The crowds observing the event & baying for blood give a visual impression of support for ISIS & their actions,albeit a false impression.

2.Those ISIS members present,use the crowd as a human shield to prevent incoming pot shots from their opponents.

by Guest Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:22 am

Raggamuffin wrote:I don't know why but I find the crowds more disturbing than the actual people doing the deed. The people doing the deed are clearly horrible and nasty, but what of the crowd? They look like ordinary people and they do appear to be there to support what's happening.

i also find that disturbing .

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:26 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I don't know why but I find the crowds more disturbing than the actual people doing the deed. The people doing the deed are clearly horrible and nasty, but what of the crowd? They look like ordinary people and they do appear to be there to support what's happening.

i also find that disturbing .

There's a lot of talk about how powerful ISIS are, but what are their actual numbers? They can't be in a majority per se, so somewhere along the line, non-ISIS people are condoning what they do.

by Eilzel Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:32 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

i also find that disturbing .

There's a lot of talk about how powerful ISIS are, but what are their actual numbers? They can't be in a majority per se, so somewhere along the line, non-ISIS people are condoning what they do.

Terror by the few can control the many.

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:43 am

Eilzel wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

There's a lot of talk about how powerful ISIS are, but what are their actual numbers? They can't be in a majority per se, so somewhere along the line, non-ISIS people are condoning what they do.

Terror by the few can control the many.

Do you think that's what it is? I just can't excuse those crowds on those grounds. Of course it's possible that they were all ISIS supporters who had been told to attend.

by Eilzel Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:46 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

Terror by the few can control the many.

Do you think that's what it is? I just can't excuse those crowds on those grounds. Of course it's possible that they were all ISIS supporters who had been told to attend.

As I said above, there is undoubtedly a mix. Of those minds poisoned by a venomous religion and those who simply don't want to risk being seen as suspicious by their ISIS authorities.

by Guest Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:49 am

Eilzel wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

There's a lot of talk about how powerful ISIS are, but what are their actual numbers? They can't be in a majority per se, so somewhere along the line, non-ISIS people are condoning what they do.

Terror by the few can control the many.

utter tosh and you kno it death for gays is prevalent among Muslim countries are you trying to say it is a misunderstanding every time...

by Eilzel Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:59 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

Terror by the few can control the many.

utter tosh and you kno it death for gays is prevalent among Muslim countries are you trying to say it is a misunderstanding every time...

You appear to blind in terms of both faith and eye sight- I have mentioned the poison of Islam twice in the thread, including my last post. Shut your bitching mouth.

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:06 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Do you think that's what it is? I just can't excuse those crowds on those grounds. Of course it's possible that they were all ISIS supporters who had been told to attend.

As I said above, there is undoubtedly a mix. Of those minds poisoned by a venomous religion and those who simply don't want to risk being seen as suspicious by their ISIS authorities.

Without knowing the specific circumstance of how those people came to be there, it's difficult to judge. It's even possible that a lot of the people in the crowd had no idea what was going on, or they were objecting.

by Eilzel Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:08 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

As I said above, there is undoubtedly a mix. Of those minds poisoned by a venomous religion and those who simply don't want to risk being seen as suspicious by their ISIS authorities.

Without knowing the specific circumstance of how those people came to be there, it's difficult to judge. It's even possible that a lot of the people in the crowd had no idea what was going on, or they were objecting.

Very true, we only have speculation- though I doubt there would be too much vocal objecting going on, knowing the nature of the culprits.

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:14 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Without knowing the specific circumstance of how those people came to be there, it's difficult to judge. It's even possible that a lot of the people in the crowd had no idea what was going on, or they were objecting.

Very true, we only have speculation- though I doubt there would be too much vocal objecting going on, knowing the nature of the culprits.

Well if all the ISIS lot were at the top of the building, some in the crowd might be objecting - they could run away before the ISIS lot came down. It does say that the baying mob are encouraged to come forward and stone the men if they weren't dead after being thrown off (something which seems unlikely to me). I think there are some ISIS people there at the bottom but not that many.

by Eilzel Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:18 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

Very true, we only have speculation- though I doubt there would be too much vocal objecting going on, knowing the nature of the culprits.

Well if all the ISIS lot were at the top of the building, some in the crowd might be objecting - they could run away before the ISIS lot came down. It does say that the baying mob are encouraged to come forward and stone the men if they weren't dead after being thrown off (something which seems unlikely to me). I think there are some ISIS people there at the bottom but not that many.

With guns- would you object then run in that situation? Or would you keep quiet? Honestly, there are better ways of opposing ISIS than throwing your life way objecting in this situation, it wouldn't take ISIS long to catch up with vocal dissidents, they have the machines.

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:23 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Well if all the ISIS lot were at the top of the building, some in the crowd might be objecting - they could run away before the ISIS lot came down. It does say that the baying mob are encouraged to come forward and stone the men if they weren't dead after being thrown off (something which seems unlikely to me). I think there are some ISIS people there at the bottom but not that many.

With guns- would you object then run in that situation? Or would you keep quiet? Honestly, there are better ways of opposing ISIS than throwing your life way objecting in this situation, it wouldn't take ISIS long to catch up with vocal dissidents, they have the machines.

I wouldn't have gone there in the first place really, or I would have slipped away when they weren't looking. Being in a crowd which is condoning what happened is the same as supporting it, whatever the reason.

by Eilzel Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:26 pm

To an extent I agree, though not living in a state of constant fear and aggression we are not best placed to judge.

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:29 pm

Eilzel wrote:To an extent I agree, though not living in a state of constant fear and aggression we are not best placed to judge.

True. I just think that the non-ISIS people must greatly outnumber the ISIS people, and even if you factor in guns or whatever, there must be some way they can resist.

by Guest Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:32 pm

Eilzel wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

utter tosh and you kno it death for gays is prevalent among Muslim countries are you trying to say it is a misunderstanding every time...

You appear to blind in terms of both faith and eye sight- I have mentioned the poison of Islam twice in the thread, including my last post. Shut your bitching mouth.

says the bitch with the thai lady boy..lol

it was said it has nothing to do with sharia , it is clealrly not the truth, not that you ever let truth get in the way of your bias

by Eilzel Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:34 pm

Might want to reword that into legible English HF.

by Guest Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:29 pm

Eilzel wrote:Might want to reword that into legible English HF.

try putting straight glasses on..

by Original Quill Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:18 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Eilzel wrote:To an extent I agree, though not living in a state of constant fear and aggression we are not best placed to judge.

True. I just think that the non-ISIS people must greatly outnumber the ISIS people, and even if you factor in guns or whatever, there must be some way they can resist.

Are there any non-ISIS people? Can anyone distinguish the ISIS people from all of the Sunnis? I'd like to hear it.

Hell, why do you think ISIS (or ISIL) is taking over these big cities? Hint, hint...that's called winning.

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:30 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

True. I just think that the non-ISIS people must greatly outnumber the ISIS people, and even if you factor in guns or whatever, there must be some way they can resist.

Are there any non-ISIS people? Can anyone distinguish the ISIS people from all of the Sunnis? I'd like to hear it.

Hell, why do you think ISIS (or ISIL) is taking over these big cities? Hint, hint...that's called winning.

You mean that all Sunni Muslims are part of ISIS? In that case, they will still be a minority in Iraq as a whole. Anbar province is Sunni dominated of course. If the crowd are Sunni Muslims and they support ISIS, they are just as guilty.

Aren't most of the Kurds Sunni Muslims?