5000 ‘call for north of England to join Scotland’

More than 5000 people have signed a petition calling for the north of England to ‘secede from the UK and join Scotland’.

A total of 5396 people have signed a petition on Change.org in support of the north of England joining Scotland and ‘regaining control over its own destiny’.


Despite being created a year ago, during the throes of the Scottish independence campaign, the petition attracted a number of signatures following the Conservative Party’s win in last week’s general election.

The petition states: “The deliberations in Westminster are becoming increasingly irrelevant to the north of England.

“The northern cities feel far greater affinity with their Scottish counterparts such as Glasgow and Edinburgh than with the ideologies of the London-centric south.

“The needs and challenges of the north cannot be understood by the endless parade of old Etonians lining the front benches of the House of Commons.

“We, the people of the north, demand that in the event that Scotland becomes independent the border between England and the New Scotland be drawn along a line that runs between the River Dee and the mouth of The Humber.”

The Border between a ‘new Scotland’ and England would see the cities of Sheffield, Hull, Liverpool, Leeds and Preston all join the newly-created country.

One signatory, from Macclesfield, wrote: “Increasingly Westminster appears to be asking the ordinary people of this country to bail the country out of the mess that they and their rich buddies in the financial quarter of the city created.

“I want out and want to join a more sensible equal country government - if I can’t be European I’ll be Scottish.”

Another supporter added: “I have more in common with the Scots, than the Etonian-led Southerners who do not care what happens in the North.”

One person pointed out that the petition could bring up the topic of increased Northern representation.

Despite being closed, the petition is still gathering signatures since last Thursday’s vote, partly thanks to the #TakeUsWithYouScotland hashtag on Twitter.

well Snp candidates for the south then

Can they come down here? I wish!

korban dallas wrote:More than 5000 people have signed a petition calling for the north of England to ‘secede from the UK and join Scotland’.

A total of 5396 people have signed a petition on Change.org in support of the north of England joining Scotland and ‘regaining control over its own destiny’.


Despite being created a year ago, during the throes of the Scottish independence campaign, the petition attracted a number of signatures following the Conservative Party’s win in last week’s general election.

The petition states: “The deliberations in Westminster are becoming increasingly irrelevant to the north of England.

“The northern cities feel far greater affinity with their Scottish counterparts such as Glasgow and Edinburgh than with the ideologies of the London-centric south.

“The needs and challenges of the north cannot be understood by the endless parade of old Etonians lining the front benches of the House of Commons.

“We, the people of the north, demand that in the event that Scotland becomes independent the border between England and the New Scotland be drawn along a line that runs between the River Dee and the mouth of The Humber.”

The Border between a ‘new Scotland’ and England would see the cities of Sheffield, Hull, Liverpool, Leeds and Preston all join the newly-created country.

One signatory, from Macclesfield, wrote: “Increasingly Westminster appears to be asking the ordinary people of this country to bail the country out of the mess that they and their rich buddies in the financial quarter of the city created.

“I want out and want to join a more sensible equal country government - if I can’t be European I’ll be Scottish.”

Another supporter added: “I have more in common with the Scots, than the Etonian-led Southerners who do not care what happens in the North.”

One person pointed out that the petition could bring up the topic of increased Northern representation.

Despite being closed, the petition is still gathering signatures since last Thursday’s vote, partly thanks to the #TakeUsWithYouScotland hashtag on Twitter.

well Snp candidates for the south then

Hmmm, the Tories got seats in the north, so do these people propose some kind of "enclave" for those areas?

Raggamuffin wrote:

korban dallas wrote:More than 5000 people have signed a petition calling for the north of England to ‘secede from the UK and join Scotland’.

A total of 5396 people have signed a petition on Change.org in support of the north of England joining Scotland and ‘regaining control over its own destiny’.


Despite being created a year ago, during the throes of the Scottish independence campaign, the petition attracted a number of signatures following the Conservative Party’s win in last week’s general election.

The petition states: “The deliberations in Westminster are becoming increasingly irrelevant to the north of England.

“The northern cities feel far greater affinity with their Scottish counterparts such as Glasgow and Edinburgh than with the ideologies of the London-centric south.

“The needs and challenges of the north cannot be understood by the endless parade of old Etonians lining the front benches of the House of Commons.

“We, the people of the north, demand that in the event that Scotland becomes independent the border between England and the New Scotland be drawn along a line that runs between the River Dee and the mouth of The Humber.”

The Border between a ‘new Scotland’ and England would see the cities of Sheffield, Hull, Liverpool, Leeds and Preston all join the newly-created country.

One signatory, from Macclesfield, wrote: “Increasingly Westminster appears to be asking the ordinary people of this country to bail the country out of the mess that they and their rich buddies in the financial quarter of the city created.

“I want out and want to join a more sensible equal country government - if I can’t be European I’ll be Scottish.”

Another supporter added: “I have more in common with the Scots, than the Etonian-led Southerners who do not care what happens in the North.”

One person pointed out that the petition could bring up the topic of increased Northern representation.

Despite being closed, the petition is still gathering signatures since last Thursday’s vote, partly thanks to the #TakeUsWithYouScotland hashtag on Twitter.

well Snp candidates for the south then

Hmmm, the Tories got seats in the north, so do these people propose some kind of "enclave" for those areas?

No idea raggs but rail strikes and now this although i don`t think it will go anywhere  but looks like the rot is starting and my old stomping ground is still technically Scottish

korban dallas wrote:
No idea raggs but rail strikes and now this although i don`t think it will go anywhere  but looks like the rot is starting and my old stomping ground is still technically Scottish

Well those people are free to move to Scotland if they feel so strongly about it.

One would also have to take into account the popular vote in those areas where the Tories did not get in. If the party which got in got less than 50% of the votes, those people signing the petition are not speaking for the marjority.

would that be 5000 scots who cant afford to live in scotlandlandshire? Perhaps it would be easier for those 5000 to move north of the border and that would free up a few homes.

Perhaps you could move out of Turkey and let them have your house for Syrian refugees?

I don't think that 5,936 people are really representative of the whole of the north of England anyway.

Just another load of anti English rubbish which won't even get off the ground.And when you take into account the ground swell of UKIP support that has developed up North......which includes largely former Labour voters HAR HAR HAR!.

It will only be a story on a small site like this.

I would like to see the SNP elected in English constituencies

Sign the petition

https://www.change.org/p/the-uk-government-allow-the-north-of-england-to-secede-from-the-uk-and-join-scotland

https://twitter.com/hashtag/TakeUsWithYouScotland?src=hash

Quality. It was even trending on Twitter.

bugger that

Cheshire is going to declare UDI....

The petition has now reached over 10,000 and growing by the minute.

risingsun wrote:The petition has now reached over 10,000 and growing by the minute.

and now its on sky news

So have these people who signed it explained what happens in the areas where the Tories got in? That is areas in between them and Scotland.

Raggamuffin wrote:So have these people who signed it explained what happens in the areas where the Tories got in? That is areas in between them and Scotland.

Dunno

but devolution from London seems to be a aspiration on the rise

korban dallas wrote:but devolution from London seems to be a aspiration on the rise

They'd only start moaning later that they want devolution from Edinburgh.

Raggamuffin wrote:

korban dallas wrote:but devolution from London seems to be a aspiration on the rise

They'd only start moaning later that they want devolution from Edinburgh.

Do you mean the Scots or the north of England

korban dallas wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

They'd only start moaning later that they want devolution from Edinburgh.

Do you mean the Scots or the north of England

The people from the north of England who want to join Scotland.

Raggamuffin wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
Do you mean the Scots or the north of England

The people from the north of England who want to join Scotland.

well i guess it depends on how good the Scottish government governs them if they do well they would be no need to ask and in fact may draw more regions

korban dallas wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

The people from the north of England who want to join Scotland.

well i guess it depends on how good the Scottish government governs them if they do well they would be no need to ask and in fact may draw more regions  

Joining Scotland wouldn't mean they secede from the UK anyway as Scotland is part of the UK.

I don't think they've thought this through really.

What about people who don't want to be part of Scotland? We could see a refugee situation occurring, and an enclave of English people with a corridor to Scotland through it. There might even need to be a new wall!

Raggamuffin wrote:What about people who don't want to be part of Scotland? We could see a refugee situation occurring, and an enclave of English people with a corridor to Scotland through it. There might even need to be a new wall!

what about the people in Scotland who don`t want to be part of England have we seen a refugee situation occurring ,many Scots live and work in England many English people live and work in Scotland

korban dallas wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:What about people who don't want to be part of Scotland? We could see a refugee situation occurring, and an enclave of English people with a corridor to Scotland through it. There might even need to be a new wall!

what about the people in Scotland who don`t want to be part of England have we seen a refugee situation occurring ,many Scots live and work in England many English people live and work in Scotland

People in Scotland are not part of England - do you mean part of the UK?

The situation you describe is different to people suddenly finding themselves as being in Scotland rather than England without moving. People can choose to move to either country, but this petition is proposing that people stay where they are and become part of Scotland.

The area above the proposed line where Scotland should start contains a lot of Tory areas.

Actually, I'm having trouble finding a decent map of the results.