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The graduation ceremony at a private school in Stone Mountain, Georgia sank into disarray after the school’s principal and founder clashed with the audience, The Grio reported. Footage of the event at TNT Academy shows Nancy Gordeuk chiding crowd members after she mistakenly ended the ceremony before the valedictorian made his speech.






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Post by Raggamuffin Wed May 13, 2015 8:56 am

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And yet you just had a huge rant on another thread about the "Brits" being racist. Laughing

You even want the UK to change its culture to suit you. Do you include the Scots, the Welsh, and the Northern Irish by the way, or do you mean just the English?

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It's not to suit me either it is to suit the globalized western secularism which was instated by largely Anglo powers
some whinging pommie just don't like it now you have to do it too
200 years too late to start complaining WATCH: Georgia graduation ceremony breaks down after principal rants about ‘all the black people’ - Page 3 112848305  

IF your culture is "NOT accepting people speaking to each other on the bus in language you don't understand" then HELL yeah i support changing your culture by force if necessary cause the world Doesn't need another Nazi Scum nation with a culture like that.
The Global community has to look to Europe as a potential Nazi Terrorist breeding ground, that may have to be dealt with we can not let Europe Commit the atrocities it has committed in the past again.
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Anglo or English? You really should sort out who you're talking about.

Where has anyone said they don't like people speaking to each other on a bus in a language they don't understand? As long as they keep the noise down, and they're not addressing me, I don't care what language they use. They might be people on holiday from elsewhere anyway.

I do think that if people live here and can't speak English, they should pay for their own interpreter if they need one, or learn English. I'd say that about English people living elsewhere too.

How you can equate any of this to a Nazi nation is a mystery. I think you're being a bit histrionic really.
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Post by Original Quill Wed May 13, 2015 5:11 pm

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Unquestionably, discrimination can go both ways.  But in the aggregate in America, it is much more common that whites discriminate against blacks.  That is because blacks don’t have the problem; whites do.  That’s why we say that racism is a white problem.



Because Republicans have opted to serve the racists in America—recalling how Republicans have adopted the Southern Strategy— they quite naturally do not get the majority of black votes.  

Realizing this, Republican lawmakers have done as much as they can to prevent blacks from being able to vote.  Again, this is overlapping: politics this time, with racism.  Another example of how life is a mixture, not a laboratory.

I didn't ask why they want to target black people, I asked how they're doing it.

No...you asked how is THAT targeting black people...a more specific question.  If your motive is to discourage adverse votes, you single out those voters that are adverse and try to preclude them from the process.

When you use words, connecting to ideas, you've got to think about what you are saying.

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed May 13, 2015 5:17 pm

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I didn't ask why they want to target black people, I asked how they're doing it.

No...you asked how is THAT targeting black people...a more specific question.  If your motive is to discourage adverse votes, you single out those voters that are adverse and try to preclude them from the process.

When you use words, connecting to ideas, you've got to think about what you are saying.

Says the person who can't decide what "privileged" means.

I asked how, not why.
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Post by Original Quill Wed May 13, 2015 5:47 pm

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Unquestionably, discrimination can go both ways.  But in the aggregate in America, it is much more common that whites discriminate against blacks.  That is because blacks don’t have the problem; whites do.  That’s why we say that racism is a white problem.


In other words, you do not see people as individuals, you see them as one colour or another. To a white person who has been discriminated against, it doesn't matter how many other white people have been discriminated against. That's the point of equality laws - they protect individuals, not just people from minorities - or at least they're supposed to.

The act of discrimination has (1) a motive and (2) an action. The discriminator chooses the color of the person against whom s/he wants to discriminate. The neutral observer--a third party--only observes what the discriminator chooses by his actions. The observer does not "see" anything except what is observed.

The neutral observer sees and records the individuals acting and being acted upon, and records the color of each as well as the action. The clear conclusion from the observation is that in the aggregate, whites have a racist motive and it drives them to take discriminatory actions against blacks. There is no reciprocal discriminatory motive observed against whites.

People discriminate all the time: when you choose whom you want to marry you are discriminating. So the real question is in your motive to discriminate. There are good reasons and their are bad reasons to discriminate. Love for marriage, is deemed a good reason. Racial motivations to discriminate are bad, and have been made unlawful in areas like employment, public accommodations and criminal justice. You identify unlawful behavior by both color and the individual.

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Post by Guest Wed May 13, 2015 5:52 pm

Quill I'm going to discriminate against you if you don't stop talking so much about discrimination. Laughing

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Post by Original Quill Wed May 13, 2015 5:55 pm

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No...you asked how is THAT targeting black people...a more specific question.  If your motive is to discourage adverse votes, you single out those voters that are adverse and try to preclude them from the process.

When you use words, connecting to ideas, you've got to think about what you are saying.

Says the person who can't decide what "privileged" means.

I asked how, not why.

The limitations are yours, sweet-pea. Typical of any and all conservatives, any fault is not their own. The fact that you have no reasoning faculties is due either to a poor education (being kind), or somebody else must be wrong. Certainly it is not the conservative's fault.

As one old German soldier remarked: The only thing Hitler did wrong was lose! Lol.

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Post by Original Quill Wed May 13, 2015 5:56 pm

Shady wrote:Quill I'm going to discriminate against you if you don't stop talking so much about discrimination. Laughing

Shady, my cute little butterfly...I think you just did. Laughing

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed May 13, 2015 6:08 pm

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Says the person who can't decide what "privileged" means.

I asked how, not why.

The limitations are yours, sweet-pea.  Typical of any and all conservatives, any fault is not their own. The fact that you have no reasoning faculties is due either to a poor education (being kind), or somebody else must be wrong.  Certainly it is not the conservative's fault.

As one old German soldier remarked: The only thing Hitler did wrong was lose!  Lol.

I bet I had a better education than you. Cool

So anyway, how are black people prevented from voting?
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Post by Original Quill Wed May 13, 2015 6:21 pm

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The limitations are yours, sweet-pea.  Typical of any and all conservatives, any fault is not their own. The fact that you have no reasoning faculties is due either to a poor education (being kind), or somebody else must be wrong.  Certainly it is not the conservative's fault.

As one old German soldier remarked: The only thing Hitler did wrong was lose!  Lol.

I bet I had a better education than you. Cool  

Rolling Eyes   I'll bet you didn't.  The proof is in the pudding.

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed May 13, 2015 6:24 pm

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I bet I had a better education than you. Cool  

Rolling Eyes   I'll bet you didn't.  The proof is in the pudding.

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You're very fond of telling people you had a great education and how intelligent you are. Your posts don't really confirm that though - they just confirm that you like blowing your own trumpet. lol!

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed May 13, 2015 6:56 pm

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Says the person who can't decide what "privileged" means.

I asked how, not why.

The limitations are yours, sweet-pea.  Typical of any and all conservatives, any fault is not their own. The fact that you have no reasoning faculties is due either to a poor education (being kind), or somebody else must be wrong.  Certainly it is not the conservative's fault.

As one old German soldier remarked: The only thing Hitler did wrong was lose!  Lol.

I bet I had a better education than you. Cool

So anyway, how are black people prevented from voting?

In the debate over new laws meant to curb voter fraud in places like Florida, Democrats always charge that Republicans are trying to suppress the vote of liberal voting blocs like blacks and young people, while Republicans just laugh at such ludicrous and offensive accusations. That is, every Republican except for Florida’s former Republican Party chairman Jim Greer, who, scorned by his party and in deep legal trouble, blew the lid off what he claims was a systemic effort to suppress the black vote. In a 630-page deposition recorded over two days in late May, Greer, who is on trial for corruption charges, unloaded a litany of charges against the “whack-a-do, right-wing crazies” in his party, including the effort to suppress the black vote.

In the deposition, released to the press yesterday, Greer mentioned a December 2009 meeting with party officials. “I was upset because the political consultants and staff were talking about voter suppression and keeping blacks from voting,” he said, according to the Tampa Bay Times. He also said party officials discussed how “minority outreach programs were not fit for the Republican Party,” according to the AP.

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/
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Post by Raggamuffin Wed May 13, 2015 7:09 pm

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I bet I had a better education than you. Cool

So anyway, how are black people prevented from voting?

In the debate over new laws meant to curb voter fraud in places like Florida, Democrats always charge that Republicans are trying to suppress the vote of liberal voting blocs like blacks and young people, while Republicans just laugh at such ludicrous and offensive accusations. That is, every Republican except for Florida’s former Republican Party chairman Jim Greer, who, scorned by his party and in deep legal trouble, blew the lid off what he claims was a systemic effort to suppress the black vote. In a 630-page deposition recorded over two days in late May, Greer, who is on trial for corruption charges, unloaded a litany of charges against the “whack-a-do, right-wing crazies” in his party, including the effort to suppress the black vote.

In the deposition, released to the press yesterday, Greer mentioned a December 2009 meeting with party officials. “I was upset because the political consultants and staff were talking about voter suppression and keeping blacks from voting,” he said, according to the Tampa Bay Times. He also said party officials discussed how “minority outreach programs were not fit for the Republican Party,” according to the AP.

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/

Thank you.

So they stop ex prisoners from voting, and black people are more likely to have been to prison?

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed May 13, 2015 8:01 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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I bet I had a better education than you. Cool

So anyway, how are black people prevented from voting?

In the debate over new laws meant to curb voter fraud in places like Florida, Democrats always charge that Republicans are trying to suppress the vote of liberal voting blocs like blacks and young people, while Republicans just laugh at such ludicrous and offensive accusations. That is, every Republican except for Florida’s former Republican Party chairman Jim Greer, who, scorned by his party and in deep legal trouble, blew the lid off what he claims was a systemic effort to suppress the black vote. In a 630-page deposition recorded over two days in late May, Greer, who is on trial for corruption charges, unloaded a litany of charges against the “whack-a-do, right-wing crazies” in his party, including the effort to suppress the black vote.

In the deposition, released to the press yesterday, Greer mentioned a December 2009 meeting with party officials. “I was upset because the political consultants and staff were talking about voter suppression and keeping blacks from voting,” he said, according to the Tampa Bay Times. He also said party officials discussed how “minority outreach programs were not fit for the Republican Party,” according to the AP.

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/

Thank you.

So they stop ex prisoners from voting, and black people are more likely to have been to prison?


No, they stop "ex prisoners" from voting -- many of whom were never actually in prison or convicted of a crime in the first place.

One group suing the state claims up to 87 percent of the voters purged from the rolls so far have been people of color, though other estimates place that number far lower. Scott has defended the purge, even though he was erroneously listed as dead himself on the rolls in 2006.

As Vanity Fair noted in a big 2004 story on the Sunshine State’s voting problems, “Florida is a state with a history of disenfranchising blacks.” In the state’s notoriously botched 2000 election, the state sent a list of 50,000 alleged ex-felons to the counties, instructing them to purge those names from their rolls. But it turned out that list included 20,000 innocent people, 54 percent of whom were black, the magazine reported. Just 15 percent of the state’s population is black. There were also reports that polling stations in black neighborhoods were understaffed, leading to long lines that kept some people from voting that year.

They also do things like drastically reduce the hours for early voting, making it tougher for people who have a harder time getting time away from work to vote. In the 2000 election, a lot of the black people struck from rolls were done so based on the fact that their names were similar to convicted felons in Texas. http://www.salon.com/2000/12/04/voter_file/
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Post by Raggamuffin Wed May 13, 2015 8:04 pm

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Raggamuffin wrote:

Thank you.

So they stop ex prisoners from voting, and black people are more likely to have been to prison?


No, they stop "ex prisoners" from voting -- many of whom were never actually in prison or convicted of a crime in the first place.

One group suing the state claims up to 87 percent of the voters purged from the rolls so far have been people of color, though other estimates place that number far lower. Scott has defended the purge, even though he was erroneously listed as dead himself on the rolls in 2006.

As Vanity Fair noted in a big 2004 story on the Sunshine State’s voting problems, “Florida is a state with a history of disenfranchising blacks.” In the state’s notoriously botched 2000 election, the state sent a list of 50,000 alleged ex-felons to the counties, instructing them to purge those names from their rolls. But it turned out that list included 20,000 innocent people, 54 percent of whom were black, the magazine reported. Just 15 percent of the state’s population is black. There were also reports that polling stations in black neighborhoods were understaffed, leading to long lines that kept some people from voting that year.

They also do things like drastically reduce the hours for early voting, making it tougher for people who have a harder time getting time away from work to vote. In the 2000 election, a lot of the black people struck from rolls were done so based on the fact that their names were similar to convicted felons in Texas. http://www.salon.com/2000/12/04/voter_file/

Don't white people have a hard time getting away from work too?
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Post by Ben Reilly Wed May 13, 2015 8:04 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
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Thank you.

So they stop ex prisoners from voting, and black people are more likely to have been to prison?


No, they stop "ex prisoners" from voting -- many of whom were never actually in prison or convicted of a crime in the first place.

One group suing the state claims up to 87 percent of the voters purged from the rolls so far have been people of color, though other estimates place that number far lower. Scott has defended the purge, even though he was erroneously listed as dead himself on the rolls in 2006.

As Vanity Fair noted in a big 2004 story on the Sunshine State’s voting problems, “Florida is a state with a history of disenfranchising blacks.” In the state’s notoriously botched 2000 election, the state sent a list of 50,000 alleged ex-felons to the counties, instructing them to purge those names from their rolls. But it turned out that list included 20,000 innocent people, 54 percent of whom were black, the magazine reported. Just 15 percent of the state’s population is black. There were also reports that polling stations in black neighborhoods were understaffed, leading to long lines that kept some people from voting that year.

They also do things like drastically reduce the hours for early voting, making it tougher for people who have a harder time getting time away from work to vote. In the 2000 election, a lot of the black people struck from rolls were done so based on the fact that their names were similar to convicted felons in Texas. http://www.salon.com/2000/12/04/voter_file/

Don't white people have a hard time getting away from work too?

Yes, the lower-income whites who tend to vote Democratic have the same problem.
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Post by Original Quill Thu May 14, 2015 6:23 am

Raggamuffin wrote:You're very fond of telling people you had a great education and how intelligent you are. Your posts don't really confirm that though - they just confirm that you like blowing your own trumpet.

I believe the claim was that I had a better education than you...which isn't hard, is it?

I have never offered my IQ score, however it is a fact that you keep losing in these discussions.  Do you ever complete a thought? I feel like I'm always having to bring you up to speed.

I think you sense that too...you are always angry.

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