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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 7:43 pm

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 7:49 pm

what trotskyite rag is that from then?

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 8:04 pm

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which shows the real figure

moreover Sassy if your "massaged " graph WAS true , given that in real terms spending on the NHS has in fact increased year on year, IF that figure had gone down in terms of gdp BUT up in real terms there is only ONE conclusion to be made

and that is that GDP has risen at a rate equal to the sums of the % increase in spending AND the rate of decrease of that spending as part of GDP

effectively what you are saying is that GDP increased LAST YEAR by about 12% 9% in total


score one for the tory's then.....

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Post by Irn Bru Sun May 03, 2015 8:57 pm

The chart is from Osborne's very own OBR.

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 9:04 pm

perhaps you need a lesson on statistics Irn?

that letters date is ????

the graph covers until ??????

the data chart i provided covers untill????


the left......so transparent

shysters and cheats the lot of em (to coin a much used phrase)

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Post by Irn Bru Sun May 03, 2015 9:13 pm

darknessss wrote:perhaps you need a lesson on statistics Irn?

that letters date is ????

the graph covers until ??????

the data chart i provided covers untill????


the left......so transparent

shysters and cheats the lot of em (to coin a much used phrase)

The letter is there just to prove that the Tories tried to con us all that they had increased NHS spending when they hadn't. Consider it a reminder.

The chart is from the OBR and is not a leftie creation at all.
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Post by Irn Bru Sun May 03, 2015 9:16 pm

Reduced to videos. Hey, that's what Bin Laden ended up doing Laughing
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 9:19 pm

No just hilarious that lefties have no sense of humour or even understand why the pun

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 9:22 pm

and that letter is out of date and only marginally correct..and in fact the chart i posted does show this....

but of course YOU ignore 2012 onward becasue of course it doesnt suit...

massage massage massage twist turn and SPIN

the liebour dance....the SPIN

considering the consequence of 2012 onwards AND that graph posted

you still dont see how it sinks the lefty do you


real overall spending on NHS has risen 9,3% cumulative

but as a %of GDP its fallen 4. something %

that can ONLY mean that GDP has risen (actually i was right 1st time) around 13%

go figure......

or more likely wriggle


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Post by eddie Sun May 03, 2015 9:25 pm

Vic I love you! lol!
You don't half make me smile
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 9:29 pm

what would you know eddie....you know what wolfie says....and you know wolfie is ALWAYS right (chokes and spits~) Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post by eddie Sun May 03, 2015 9:35 pm

darknessss wrote:what would you know eddie....you know what wolfie says....and you know wolfie is ALWAYS right (chokes and spits~) Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post by Irn Bru Sun May 03, 2015 9:36 pm

darknessss wrote:and that letter is out of date and only marginally correct..and in fact the chart i posted does show this....

but of course YOU ignore 2012 onward becasue of course it doesnt suit...

massage massage massage twist turn and SPIN

the liebour dance....the SPIN

considering the consequence of 2012 onwards AND that graph posted

you still dont see how it sinks the lefty do you


real overall spending on NHS has risen 9,3% cumulative

but as a %of GDP its fallen 4. something %

that can ONLY mean that GDP has risen (actually i was right 1st time)  around 13%

go figure......

or more likely wriggle


Sorry Vic but the OBR clearly shows that it has gone down in relation to GDP - the correct way to measure these things.
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 9:42 pm

Irn Bru wrote:
darknessss wrote:and that letter is out of date and only marginally correct..and in fact the chart i posted does show this....

but of course YOU ignore 2012 onward becasue of course it doesnt suit...

massage massage massage twist turn and SPIN

the liebour dance....the SPIN

considering the consequence of 2012 onwards AND that graph posted

you still dont see how it sinks the lefty do you


real overall spending on NHS has risen 9,3% cumulative

but as a %of GDP its fallen 4. something %

that can ONLY mean that GDP has risen (actually i was right 1st time)  around 13%

go figure......

or more likely wriggle


Sorry Vic but the OBR clearly shows that it has gone down in relation to GDP - the correct way to measure these things.

in your eys and becasue you are a lefty looking for something, anything to cling to....

what part of "that letter is out of date" dont you get?

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 9:49 pm

moreover you prize muppet the letter IS NOT talking about your "graph"

the letter itself questions whether or not the increases IN REAL TERMS is correct since the figures are within the error possible ....

"given the small sizes of the changes and the uncertainties associated with them"

and as we see in that chart I posted , indeed in 2012, the increase WAS only .2% which is marginal to say the least

BUT BY 2014 the increase was 9.3% cumulative IN REAL TERMS

what YOU dont want to admit is, that if that is so, your pet graph shows GDP MUST have increased by a phenomenal 13%


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Post by Irn Bru Sun May 03, 2015 10:16 pm

I never said the graph was about the letter. But by all means read the letter which explains how to measure public spending and GDP deflaters.

The chart doesn't lie

And try no tae be so cheeky next time Laughing
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