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Post by Guest Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:24 pm

Atlanta police have charged four students for allegedly participating in a 20-person melee directed at two gay teens. Tim Jefferson, 16, told WGCL that he was leaving Carver School of Technology with his friend when classmates began shouting racial and homophobic slurs. Cell phone video obtained by WGCL showed dozens of students huddled around as a young man is being beaten. According to WGCL reporter Tylar Bacome, students described the melee as a “5-round fight with punches being thrown by as many as 20 students at one point.”
Jefferson recalled that one student jammed a screwdriver right next to his eye. “My face, my eye, my lip, on my back, my spine right in the middle, the back of my neck and I got hit in the back of my head,” the teen said, pointing out his injuries.


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/gay-student-has-screwdriver-jabbed-in-face-during-5-round-brawl-as-principal-watches-without-helping/

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Post by Eilzel Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:55 am

Some parts of the US seem terminally backward- why would anyone feel the need to do this? Sad
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Post by veya_victaous Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:14 am

it is also the retarded school system they have, with local funding instead of at least state/federal oversight.
the way they do things is backward, i believe it is on purpose so these backwards areas can keep being backwards.
Just because a local community is poor or full of bigots doesn't change the education the kids should receive.. but it does in the US Sad
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Post by Eilzel Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:34 am

That's just the kind of retardation of things the Republicans like to maintain- I'm sure they are fully aware that a better education system would likely result in less Republican votes down the line lol
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Post by Cass Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:46 am

veya_victaous wrote:it is also the retarded school system they have, with local funding instead of at least state/federal oversight.
the way they do things is backward, i believe it is on purpose so these backwards areas can keep being backwards.
Just because a local community is poor or full of bigots doesn't change the education the kids should receive.. but it does in the US Sad

actually it is state funded and state oversight with ultimately the federal Dept. of Education setting guidelines etc.... some communities may also give funding to schools - it dependse from state to state.

some States/schools/counties are good some so-so some bad.

charter schools are different as they answer pretty much to no one. Private schhols and religious schools answer to their own boards but must be certified by the state.

my boys have actually received excellent educations in a state that is actively cutting funding in schools and has been since we got here. it depends on the school but also on the child and on the child's homelife.


back to OP - disgusting animals.
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Post by veya_victaous Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:14 am

Cass wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:it is also the retarded school system they have, with local funding instead of at least state/federal oversight.
the way they do things is backward, i believe it is on purpose so these backwards areas can keep being backwards.
Just because a local community is poor or full of bigots doesn't change the education the kids should receive.. but it does in the US Sad

actually it is state funded and state oversight with ultimately the federal Dept. of Education setting guidelines etc.... some communities may also give funding to schools - it dependse from state to state.

some States/schools/counties are good some so-so some bad.

charter schools are different as they answer pretty much to no one. Private schhols and religious schools answer to their own boards but must be certified by the state.

my boys have actually received excellent educations in a state that is actively cutting funding in schools and has been since we got here. it depends on the school but also on the child and on the child's homelife.


back to OP - disgusting animals.

not like the UK or here where it is directly state funded, and the guidelines are super vague and pretty much meaningless. Here we have Curriculum standards that are for ALL SCHOOLS.

you sort of proved the point that there is huge disparity between schools int he USA which we would not allow here.

Other data show that communities where student poverty is rare tend to have well-funded schools, whereas schools in communities where student poverty is rampant tend to receive much less funding. Figure 3 on page 57 shows the relationship between funding and student poverty rates for school districts with enrollments of more than 1,000. Districts reporting higher levels of funding are more likely to be located in communities where student poverty is minimal, whereas those reporting lower levels of funding are more often located in communities where student poverty is sizable (National Center for Education Statistics, 2000b).
http://www.ascd.org/publications/educational-leadership/may02/vol59/num08/Unequal-School-Funding-in-the-United-States.aspx
To my knowledge, the U.S. is the only nation to fund elementary and secondary education based on local wealth. Other developed countries either equalize funding or provide extra funding for individuals or groups felt to need it. In the Netherlands, for example, national funding is provided to all schools based on the number of pupils enrolled, but for every guilder allocated to a middle-class Dutch child, 1.25 guilders are allocated for a lower-class child and 1.9 guilders for a minority child, exactly the opposite of the situation in the U.S., where lower-class and minority children typically receive less than middle-class white children. (p. 520)

do Americans realize there education system is but up as a cautionary tales of destroying an education system?

Excuses for Unequal Funding

As a rule, U.S. citizens say they are committed to the welfare of children, the ideal of equal opportunity, and the notion that public education can and should provide a level playing field for all students. Given these stated values, why are they willing to tolerate unequal funding for public schools?

Perhaps the simplest answer to this question is that some people in the United States are unaware of the problem or think that inequities in school funding are small and don't matter. Many people, however, are aware that public schools are not equally supported but are willing to tolerate this form of inequity. Three reasons may lie behind this odd stance.
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Post by Cass Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:22 am

right so all the schools in the UK and Australia and every other country is just perfect right?

there are curriculum standards for all public schools from federal and also state level. the only ones not overseen - at least in my state - are charter schools. again some are good some are so-so some are bad.

I'm sick and tired of generalities.
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Post by Cass Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:25 am

also the paper you quote is from 2002.

of course there is inequality of funds and schooling - happens everywhere u its a fact of life. one that should change but its reality.
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Post by veya_victaous Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:59 am

Cass wrote:also the paper you quote is from 2002.

of course there is inequality of funds and schooling - happens everywhere u its a fact of life. one that should change but its reality.

INEQUITY IN FUNDING IS NOT A FACT OF LIFE
everyone gets the same here OR like most European systems Poor kids get more the USA is the ONLY western nation where kids from rich communities go to gov't schools with more funding per student.

Funding, the way it is done, the way required funds are measured is the issue, the system in the US is different than the system here, UK or pretty much EVERY other nations with Public Schools
AND YES NO SCHOOL IN Australia is as poorly funded as some are allowed to be in the USA.
that is FACT and nothing has significantly changed in the US system since 2002 to make it any different IF anything it has gotten worse.


Not perfect but the worst is 100 times better than the worst in the USA.. that is the point that You and Quill miss the rest of us (as in every other western nation) are all talking Minimum standards NOT Average standards.
the Fact is the USA Average is comparable to Our minimum, it is not the total standard or the maximum we are care about it is what the poorest kid gets. Compare a poor kid in the UK or Australia to the USA and there are Worlds of difference.

Extra Funding In Australia is given because of
The Resource Allocation Model (RAM) has been developed to ensure a fair, efficient and transparent allocation of the education budget for every school.

The model, introduced in phases, recognises that students and school communities are not all the same – they have different needs and require different levels of support.

2014 RAM implementation included

1. Targeted (individual student) funding support for students who:

require high or moderate level adjustment for disability
require specific support
are new arrivals or refugees.


2. The equity loadings that provided support for:

Aboriginal students
students from low socio-economic backgrounds.


2015 RAM implementation added

1. Two more equity loadings for:

low level adjustment for disability
English language proficiency.

in the USA it is because a community has a higher average income and therefore pays more tax thus kids in rich areas get more money spent on their education.

It is not generality it is the SPECIFIC laws your nation has that are VERY Different than every other western nations.
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Post by veya_victaous Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:06 am

this is relevant to the OP because the Way Principals are employed and they way they operate and the level of responsibly and accountability they have is completely different

Here they are just a cog in the system and that guy would NEVER have become a principal in the first place the system would have weeded him out long ago, local community opinions/values/bigotry are not part of the employment process as they are not employed by local communities. It doesn't matter how redneck Wolfs local school is, the principal will have to meet the same standards excepted in a multicultural Sydney school to get the job that is given to them by a bureaucrat in Sydney.
in the USA they are like small business owners, and way too local in the views of the world because they are employed by local powers.

It is pretty obvious from those on the outside this is done to keep some communities in the USA dumb and poor.
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