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Post by Guest Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:11 am

Video on link, the whole was filmed and police officer didn't know it was

In a video provided to The New York Times, a police officer in North Charleston, S.C., is seen shooting an apparently unarmed man after a scuffle following a traffic stop. Publish Date April 7, 2015.


WASHINGTON — A white police officer in North Charleston, S.C., was charged with murder on Tuesday after a video surfaced showing him shooting and killing an apparently unarmed black man in the back while he ran away.

The officer, Michael T. Slager, 33, had said he feared for his life because the man took his stun gun in a scuffle after a traffic stop on Saturday. A video, however, shows the officer firing eight times as the man fled. The North Charleston mayor announced the state charges at a news conference Tuesday evening.

The shooting comes on the heels of high-profile incidents of police officers using lethal force in New York, Cleveland, Ferguson, Mo., and elsewhere around the country. The deaths have sparked a national debate over whether police are too quick to use force, particularly in cases involving black men.

A White House task force has recommended a host of changes to the nation’s police policies, and President Obama dispatched Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., to cities around the country to try to improve police relations with minority neighborhoods.

North Charleston is the state’s third-largest city with a population of about 100,000. African-Americans make up about 47 percent of residents, and whites account for about 37 percent. The city police department is about 80 percent white, according to data collected by the Justice Department in 2007, the most recent period available.

“When you’re wrong, you’re wrong,” Mayor Keith Summey said about the shooting during the news conference. “And if you you make a bad decision, don’t care if you’re behind the shield or just a citizen on the street, you have to live by that decision.”

The shooting unfolded after Officer Slager stopped a Mercedes-Benz with a broken taillight, according to police reports. The driver, Walter L. Scott, 50, ran away, and Officer Slager chased him into a grassy lot that abuts a muffler shop. He fired his Taser, an electronic stun gun, but it did not stop Mr. Scott, according to police reports.

Moments after the struggle, Officer Slager reported on his radio, “Shots fired and the subject is down. He took my Taser,” according to police reports.

But the video, which was taken by a bystander and provided to The New York Times by Mr. Scott’s lawyer, presents a different account. The video begins in the vacant lot, apparently moments after Officer Slager fired his Taser. Wires, which carry the electrical current from the stun gun, appear to be extending from Mr. Scott’s body as the two men tussle and Mr. Scott turns to run.

Something — it is not clear whether it is the stun gun — is either tossed or knocked to the ground behind the two men and Officer Slager draws his gun, the video shows. When the officer fires, Mr. Scott appears to be 15 to 20 feet away and fleeing. He falls after the last of eight shots.

The officer then runs back toward where the initial scuffle occurred and and picks something off the ground. Moments later, he drops an object near Mr. Scott’s body, the video shows.

The South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, the state’s criminal investigative body, is investigating the shooting. The F.B.I. and the Justice Department, which has opened a string of civil rights investigations into police departments under Mr. Holder, is also investigating the shooting.

The Supreme Court has held that an officer may use deadly force against a fleeing suspect only when there is probable cause that he “poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.”

The officer served in the Coast Guard before joining the force five years ago, his lawyer said. The police chief of North Charleston did not return repeated calls. Because police departments are not required to release data on how often officers use force, it was not immediately clear how often police shootings occur in North Charleston, a working-class community adjacent to the tourist destination of Charleston.

WASHINGTON — A white police officer in North Charleston, S.C., was charged with murder on Tuesday after a video surfaced showing him shooting and killing an apparently unarmed black man in the back while he ran away.

The officer, Michael T. Slager, 33, had said he feared for his life because the man took his stun gun in a scuffle after a traffic stop on Saturday. A video, however, shows the officer firing eight times as the man fled. The North Charleston mayor announced the state charges at a news conference Tuesday evening.

The shooting comes on the heels of high-profile incidents of police officers using lethal force in New York, Cleveland, Ferguson, Mo., and elsewhere around the country. The deaths have sparked a national debate over whether police are too quick to use force, particularly in cases involving black men.

A White House task force has recommended a host of changes to the nation’s police policies, and President Obama dispatched Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., to cities around the country to try to improve police relations with minority neighborhoods.

North Charleston is the state’s third-largest city with a population of about 100,000. African-Americans make up about 47 percent of residents, and whites account for about 37 percent. The city police department is about 80 percent white, according to data collected by the Justice Department in 2007, the most recent period available.

“When you’re wrong, you’re wrong,” Mayor Keith Summey said about the shooting during the news conference. “And if you you make a bad decision, don’t care if you’re behind the shield or just a citizen on the street, you have to live by that decision.”

The shooting unfolded after Officer Slager stopped a Mercedes-Benz with a broken taillight, according to police reports. The driver, Walter L. Scott, 50, ran away, and Officer Slager chased him into a grassy lot that abuts a muffler shop. He fired his Taser, an electronic stun gun, but it did not stop Mr. Scott, according to police reports.

Moments after the struggle, Officer Slager reported on his radio, “Shots fired and the subject is down. He took my Taser,” according to police reports.

But the video, which was taken by a bystander and provided to The New York Times by Mr. Scott’s lawyer, presents a different account. The video begins in the vacant lot, apparently moments after Officer Slager fired his Taser. Wires, which carry the electrical current from the stun gun, appear to be extending from Mr. Scott’s body as the two men tussle and Mr. Scott turns to run.

Something — it is not clear whether it is the stun gun — is either tossed or knocked to the ground behind the two men and Officer Slager draws his gun, the video shows. When the officer fires, Mr. Scott appears to be 15 to 20 feet away and fleeing. He falls after the last of eight shots.

The officer then runs back toward where the initial scuffle occurred and and picks something off the ground. Moments later, he drops an object near Mr. Scott’s body, the video shows.

The South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, the state’s criminal investigative body, is investigating the shooting. The F.B.I. and the Justice Department, which has opened a string of civil rights investigations into police departments under Mr. Holder, is also investigating the shooting.

The Supreme Court has held that an officer may use deadly force against a fleeing suspect only when there is probable cause that he “poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.”

The officer served in the Coast Guard before joining the force five years ago, his lawyer said. The police chief of North Charleston did not return repeated calls. Because police departments are not required to release data on how often officers use force, it was not immediately clear how often police shootings occur in North Charleston, a working-class community adjacent to the tourist destination of Charleston.

Mr. Scott had been arrested about 10 times, mostly for failing to pay child support or show up for court hearings, according to the Post and Courier, the local newspaper. He was arrested in 1987 on an assault and battery charge, and convicted in 1991 of possession of a bludgeon, the newspaper reported. Mr. Scott’s brother, Anthony, said he believed Mr. Scott fled from police on Saturday because he owed child support.

”He has four children, he doesn’t have some type of big violent past or arrest record. He had a job, he was engaged,” said Chris Stewart, a lawyer for Mr. Scott’s family. “He had back child support and didn’t want to go to jail for back child support.”

Mr. Stewart said the coroner told him that Mr. Scott was struck five times — three in the back, one in the upper buttocks and one in the ear — with at least one bullet entering his heart. It is not clear whether Mr. Scott was killed immediately. (The coroner’s office declined to make the report available to the Times.)

Police reports say that officers performed CPR and delivered first aid to Mr. Scott. The video shows that for several minutes after the shooting, Mr. Scott remained face down with his hands cuffed behind his back. A second officer arrives, puts on blue medical gloves and attends to Mr. Scott, but is not shown performing CPR. As sirens wail in the background, a third officer arrives later, apparently with a medical kit, but also not seen performing CPR.

The debate over police use of force has been propelled in part by videos like the one in South Carolina. In January, prosecutors in Albuquerque charged two police officers with murder for shooting a homeless man in a confrontation that was captured by an officer’s body camera. Federal prosecutors are investigating the death of Eric Garner who died on Staten Island last year after a police officer put him in a chokehold, an incident that a bystander captured on video. A video taken in Cleveland shows police shooting a 12-year-old boy, Tamir Rice, who was carrying a fake gun in a park. A White House policing panel recommended that police departments put more video cameras on their officers.

Mr. Scott’s brother said that his mother called him on Saturday, telling him that his brother had been shot by a Taser after a traffic stop. “’You may need to go over there and see what’s going on,” Anthony Scott said his mother told him. When he arrived, officers told him that his brother was dead, but he said they had no explanation for why. “This just doesn’t sound right,” he said in an interview. “How do you lose your life at a traffic stop?”

Anthony Scott said he last saw his brother three weeks ago at a family oyster roast. “We hadn’t hung out like that in such a long time,” Mr. Scott said. “He kept on saying over and over again how great it was.” At the roast, Mr. Scott got to do two of the things he enjoyed most: tell jokes and dance. When one of Mr. Scott’s favorite songs was played, he got excited. “He jumped up and said that’s my song and he danced like never before,” he said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?smid=tw-nytimes

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Post by veya_victaous Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:16 am

the fact it shows him move the stun gun means this guy needs to be made an example of.
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:21 am

Completely agree. If the person taking the video hadn't had the guts to carry on filming and then took it to the right people, he would have got away with it, like so many do.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:23 am

Pure cold-blooded murder, no doubt.  But this is the worst of the South...after all, South Carolina started the Civil War.  This is hard-core KKK territory, AND real gun country.

Who wants to put down money the cop gets off?  Remember, George Zimmerman walked near-by, in Florida, and he wasn't even a real cop.

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Post by veya_victaous Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:41 am

@quill
if I were to bet I'd put money on him getting off.
Disgusting but true.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:01 am

Yep, the murder of Trayvon Martin was in the bag, too. The jury found a way to make the bad guy the victim.

We'd use our time better betting on defenses the jury will say they believed.

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:00 am

Wouldn't the fact that the guy was shot in the back be a clue, even without the video? I did see the officer drop something near the guy.
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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:37 am

Raggamuffin wrote:Wouldn't the fact that the guy was shot in the back be a clue, even without the video? I did see the officer drop something near the guy.

It wouldn't matter with the type of police corruption that has been suspected here. Note that the video wasn't turned over to police, it was given to the media. That speaks to a public that doesn't trust the police to do what's right.
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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:04 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Wouldn't the fact that the guy was shot in the back be a clue, even without the video? I did see the officer drop something near the guy.

It wouldn't matter with the type of police corruption that has been suspected here. Note that the video wasn't turned over to police, it was given to the media. That speaks to a public that doesn't trust the police to do what's right.

In these days of mobile phones with cameras, I'm surprised that this kind of thing isn't filmed more often. You're right - it's a good job it was.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:41 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Wouldn't the fact that the guy was shot in the back be a clue, even without the video? I did see the officer drop something near the guy.

You are absolutely right, Raggs.  Legal experts were making the same point this morning on the Good Morning America show: the case is there with the holes in the back of the man.  It has always been a sign of not only guilt, but cowardice to shoot a man in the back.  But, cops would invent some scenario that would justify shooting in the back.

Already this morning, some Police Benevolent Association official has proffered the reasoning: If people would just do what they are ordered to do, these things wouldn't happen.  Too bad Eric Garner, or Timothy Russell, and Malissa Williams aren't available to respond.  Hell, who wouldn't run with a mad man with a pistol and a stun-gun in his belt, going crazy?

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:09 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Raggamuffin wrote:Wouldn't the fact that the guy was shot in the back be a clue, even without the video? I did see the officer drop something near the guy.

It wouldn't matter with the type of police corruption that has been suspected here. Note that the video wasn't turned over to police, it was given to the media. That speaks to a public that doesn't trust the police to do what's right.

In these days of mobile phones with cameras, I'm surprised that this kind of thing isn't filmed more often. You're right - it's a good job it was.

Some of my state's lawmakers are trying to make it illegal to film the police. Amazingly, it's a Republican idea:

http://www.texasstandard.org/stories/categories/top-stories/a-texas-lawmaker-wants-to-make-it-illegal-to-film-police/
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Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

In these days of mobile phones with cameras, I'm surprised that this kind of thing isn't filmed more often. You're right - it's a good job it was.

Some of my state's lawmakers are trying to make it illegal to film the police. Amazingly, it's a Republican idea:

http://www.texasstandard.org/stories/categories/top-stories/a-texas-lawmaker-wants-to-make-it-illegal-to-film-police/

Trying to remove people last line of defence, don't know why they don't just let police officers shoot anyone they want to really!!!!!

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Post by Original Quill Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:37 am

Conservatives don't reason, they just grunt approval for certain things. Why do you think they vote for voter suppression laws, when it is as obvious as hell that it's anti-democratic.

A law that excluded video would be a violation of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments due process clause. To try to prevent the filming would be a violation of the First Amendment.

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:42 am

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Wouldn't the fact that the guy was shot in the back be a clue, even without the video? I did see the officer drop something near the guy.

You are absolutely right, Raggs.  Legal experts were making the same point this morning on the Good Morning America show: the case is there with the holes in the back of the man.  It has always been a sign of not only guilt, but cowardice to shoot a man in the back.  But, cops would invent some scenario that would justify shooting in the back.

Already this morning, some Police Benevolent Association official has proffered the reasoning: If people would just do what they are ordered to do, these things wouldn't happen.  Too bad Eric Garner, or Timothy Russell, and Malissa Williams aren't available to respond.  Hell, who wouldn't run with a mad man with a pistol and a stun-gun in his belt, going crazy?

I don't know about that last bit. I've said on here before that perhaps there should be some kind of education in the US advising people that if they do encounter the police, they should stand absolutely still and not move an inch.
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Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You are absolutely right, Raggs.  Legal experts were making the same point this morning on the Good Morning America show: the case is there with the holes in the back of the man.  It has always been a sign of not only guilt, but cowardice to shoot a man in the back.  But, cops would invent some scenario that would justify shooting in the back.

Already this morning, some Police Benevolent Association official has proffered the reasoning: If people would just do what they are ordered to do, these things wouldn't happen.  Too bad Eric Garner, or Timothy Russell, and Malissa Williams aren't available to respond.  Hell, who wouldn't run with a mad man with a pistol and a stun-gun in his belt, going crazy?

I don't know about that last bit. I've said on here before that perhaps there should be some kind of education in the US advising people that if they do encounter the police, they should stand absolutely still and not move an inch.

I honestly think they've disproved that...at least when the confrontation is between an African American and an American police officer.  The death of African American Eric Garner was as a result of a choke hold put on him by the Staten Island police.  For them, it simply seemed the proper way to detain him...whether he moved or not.  His alleged crime?  Selling loose cigarettes, which was a charge obviously trumped up after the fact.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:11 pm

Did that police officer not learn anything during his camouflage training?

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Post by Original Quill Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:37 pm

Gd point, Shady. He was not being subtle, was he?

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