Ten things you actually can't say about racism

When people want to excuse racism, they channel it through the prism of class. Say “I have a real problem with immigration” and you will be challenged. Say “Many working class communities are experiencing real problems with immigration” and you are given a pass.

Brasidas wrote:Finally, we’re having that open and honest debate about immigration and race everyone has been calling for.
The taboo has been broken – somewhat ironically – by the former head of the Commission for Racial Equality writing in the Daily Mail. Trevor Phillips, long a hate figure for the anti-multicultural right, has this morning become their darling. “At last! A man who dares to tell the truth about race: Ex-race tsar says silencing of debate has done devastating harm to Britain," exclaims the Mail’s headline, above a list of "10 True Things You Can’t Say”.
^{10 true things you can say in a national newspaper (Daily Mail)}
It’s a rather odd list, ranging from “Romanians are far more likely to be pickpockets” to “Indian women are 8 times as likely to be chemists”. Somewhere in Britain there may well be people who have been furtively circulating secret reports detailing the ethnicity and gender of Boots workers, whilst living in constant terror of the knock on the door from the thought police. In which case today is indeed a happy and liberating day.
Some of Trevor Phillips' “explosive truths” are things I’ve written about myself. He correctly highlights the growing divide between significant elements of the Muslim community and the rest of society, and the role of so-called political correctness in a number of high profile child abuse scandals.
But if we really are serious about “being honest” about these issues, then by all means, let’s be honest and open. Because I’ve go my own list of “10 True Things You Can’t Say” about immigration and race:

^{This roving Home Office advert was christened the "racist van" (Rick Findler)}

1) Most of the people who demand an open and honest debate about racism are racist.

ONLY because, in accordance with lefty liberalist DICTATS, Anyone who questions even the least thing about immigration , no matter HOW mildly is labelled "racist in order to marginalise them and stifle debate...to the lefty no debate is needed...they are right everyone else is wrong and bugger democracy


2) Most of the people we demand an open and honest debate about racism are hypocrites. As soon as you point to their racism they run around screaming “You called me a racist! How dare you! You can’t say that!”

hardly surprising since this automatically follows from the above point, and shows again the lefty arrogance of "I'm right you are wrong" and I'll label you to shut you up


3) Most of the people who demand an open and honest debate about racism only ever see one side of the debate. That’s because they’re invariably white, and have no personal experience of what racism actually is.

notice how the debate has been subtly "twisted" to suit the lefty agenda in order to deflect from and avoid the debate on immigration, they change the substance of the argument from immigration to racism, subtly prepareing the ground to be able to claim one is synonymous with the other...moreover "most" does not, by a long way imply ALL, a number of those who would welcome open and honest debate about racism and "non white"


4) Most of the politicians who demand an open and honest debate are lying. They just want racists to vote for them, or worry they won’t get elected if racists don’t vote for them.
5) When people want to excuse racism, they channel it through the prism of class. Say “I have a real problem with immigration”

and here we have the evidence of the twisted lying lefty agenda....clearly to the mental defectives that control and populate the left immigration and "racism" ARE synonymous, whereas the truth is completely different...

and you will be challenged. Say “Many working class communities are experiencing real problems with immigration” and you are given a pass.
and thats bull shit...the lefties are the biggest "class warriors and traitors to their class going...

6) Racism is still acceptable on all sides of the political spectrum. On the Left it’s acceptable to hate Jews. On the Right it’s blacks and Muslims. Racism towards Eastern Europeans is acceptable on both the Left and the Right.

Based on what?


7) It is impossible to “control immigration” to the UK.

more lefty lies...it is of course impossible when lefty politicians cripple border control

The lack of black, Asian and minority ethnic representation in British public life is a far greater scandal than the under-representation of women.

yeah? really....

just look...carefully........ at the lefty councils run by or heavily influencedby "them" rotherham....etc.....

9) Saying “racism is better now than it was 30 years ago” is the equivalent of saying “cancer is better now than it was 30 years ago”. Yes, we’re better at understanding and tackling it. But cancer is still cancer.

and...the cure?? Lefty agenda....erosion of freedom of opinion now....perhaps make it imprisonable for expressing your opinion, get YOUR KIDS, brainwashed into spying on their parents "opinions" for the lefty superstate...hmmm/.....i have heard of that happening elsewhere......

10) Ukip represent the biggest threat to British race relations since Oswald Mosley’s black-shirts.

Now, there may be some people who disagree with some of my inconvenient truths. But that doesn’t matter now, right? We live in the era of open and honest debate. There are no taboos. We can discuss openly the racism of those who demand an “open” discourse on race. We can talk honestly about the prejudice that underpins many calls for an “honest” debate about immigration.
You wanted the truth. You’ve got it.

and again that lefty rag the telegraph.....wow....how low can it stoop....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11474917/Ten-things-you-actually-cant-say-about-racism.html

Brasidas wrote:Dear me someone is exposing how much of a National socialist they truly are.,
Are you debating me Victo or are you trying to deny the truth here in those ten points?
Your replies were just lame opinions, you cannot even back up.

and the opinions in te op are exactly that ...opinions which have no validity and are in fact as biased and wrongful as they come, which of course you can expect from the lefty equal to the daily fail

Not one of your answers showed intelligence,

and another "lefty lable"...cant argue with the point  call your opponent "unintelligent" eh didge.....well me boy whilst YOU may call yourself intelligent (possessed of an ego like Zaphod Beelbrox) you certainly are not possesed of "common sense"

it showed fear, that you would react and react to what?
eh???   what reaction?? what are you blethering on about (deflecting)?

The truth, hence why you become even more excited at points that ring true.

Brasidas wrote:No all you are showing is one hell of a warped belief you have.

erm what belief would that be? ...take your time



You gave opinion not backed with evidence.

and so does the OP...so what???

The points were even more valid in your case, that is a fact.

darknessss wrote:

Brasidas wrote:No all you are showing is one hell of a warped belief you have.

erm what belief would that be? ...take your time



You gave opinion not backed with evidence.

and so does the OP...so what???

The points were even more valid in your case, that is a fact.

Brasidas wrote:

darknessss wrote:

Warped belief?
Simple you view humans as inherantly bad, you see little good because you are so pessimistic.

nope I see lefty liberalists as inherently bad (I also see violent divisive R/W ers as equally bad)

You play on the negative and not the positive and wish to make humans divided and off what?

well as i have asked for many times.....can someone give me the positives ....ones which as an increasingly globaly connected world we would not have gained anyhow??

Because of your own selfish views on how you see humanity should be, one I might add that belives in humans being controlled through fear.Was ikt not backed up? no
Lets face some facts, anyone who wants to argue against living alongside other humans in regards to immigration are really racist.

rubbish didge...thats just a lefty fiction to kill debate.....

The reasons they provide are ones to deflect away from their real meaning, of they want to keep the world divided.

darknessss wrote:

Brasidas wrote:


Warped belief?
Simple you view humans as inherantly bad, you see little good because you are so pessimistic.

nope I see lefty liberalists as inherently bad (I also see violent divisive R/W ers as equally bad)

You play on the negative and not the positive and wish to make humans divided and off what?

well as i have asked for many times.....can someone give me the positives ....ones which as an increasingly globaly connected world we would not have gained anyhow??

Because of your own selfish views on how you see humanity should be, one I might add that belives in humans being controlled through fear.Was ikt not backed up? no
Lets face some facts, anyone who wants to argue against living alongside other humans in regards to immigration are really racist.

rubbish didge...thats just a lefty fiction to kill debate.....

The reasons they provide are ones to deflect away from their real meaning, of they want to keep the world divided.

nope ....you see didge some of us are honest in out intents...and dont run scared of what others think...unlike the cowards and traitors of the left....

darknessss wrote:you are a very bad psychologist didge...thats all I can say.....

you recon you see the positives...


go on then...pray tell


BUT ONLY those that we would NOT have aquired through the course of "normal trade and communication"

(and I DO include in  "normal trade and communication", immigration to fill certain urgent and needed workers)

veya_victaous wrote:part of the issue is people not wanting to admit they use stereotypes in their thinking we all do, our brains evolved that way.. but we just need to be conscious of it and separate the statical stereotype from the individual.

We need honesty to solve problems, this is why the don't be a dick principal is better the banned words method. really racists are very obvious when forced to outlay their logic.


@victor
Cowardice is not a trait of LW or RW both have it in equal measure
RW are terrified of change, LW are terrified of admitting that life is sometimes cruel and there is nothing we can do about it.
Personally I have known more LW people to be independently brave.

nah...the left are affraid of being wrong, they are affraid of open debate, otherwise they wouldnt consistantly attempt to stifle and kill debate with the "sixhirb" slurs they are so fond of

Also what is braver to be kind and expose yourself to risk or to be cruel and attack before they can attack you?
I think it is braver to be kind because it leaves you vulnerable If you are allowing that vulnerability it is braver than someone too uncomfortable with vulnerability to open themselves to kindness.

darknessss wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:part of the issue is people not wanting to admit they use stereotypes in their thinking we all do, our brains evolved that way.. but we just need to be conscious of it and separate the statical stereotype from the individual.

We need honesty to solve problems, this is why the don't be a dick principal is better the banned words method. really racists are very obvious when forced to outlay their logic.


@victor
Cowardice is not a trait of LW or RW both have it in equal measure
RW are terrified of change, LW are terrified of admitting that life is sometimes cruel and there is nothing we can do about it.
Personally I have known more LW people to be independently brave.

nah...the left are affraid of being wrong, they are affraid of open debate, otherwise they wouldnt consistantly attempt to stifle and kill debate with the "sixhirb" slurs they are so fond of

Also what is braver to be kind and expose yourself to risk or to be cruel and attack before they can attack you?
I think it is braver to be kind because it leaves you vulnerable If you are allowing that vulnerability it is braver than someone too uncomfortable with vulnerability to open themselves to kindness.

except by some sort of insane perverted logic that is NOT bravery. that is STUPIDITY (it is often the case that the two get "mixed up and mistaken for one another")(and of course it makes a good soundbyte for the lefty tree hugging nipple head)

darknessss wrote:ah now ..."sixhirb"

" "If you disagree with the Left, you are one or all of the following -- Sexist, Intolerant, Xenophobic, Homophobic, Islamophobic, Racist, Bigoted."

the leftist mantra allow that:- "If you are pressed in debate or feel that you are losing control of the debate or that you opponent has the upper hand you may fairly employ one of a number of insults and slurs to quickly silence you opposition and sifle the debate, these slurs also have the great efect of rendering any further debate on the subject in hand difficult if not impossible" Youmay use them as appropriate or at a pinch just choose any one at random..."

risingsun wrote:Whereas I'm afraid to say Victor, your's now seems to be 'stick Lefty in front of it'.

I'm a Lefty, a very proud reasoned Lefty, who wouldn't be a RWhinger if you promised me a fortune.  Because being Left means actually caring about your fellow man, the planet, and everything on it.