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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:06 am

In Just A Few Words, Mr. Netanyahu Managed To Accurately Summarize A Clear And Present Danger"
"It is extremely rare for any reasonable person to ever agree with anything Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says or does. However, one must admit, Bibi did get it right, at least when it came to dealing with Iran. The Israeli PM managed to hit the nail right on the head when he said that Middle Eastern countries are collapsing and that 'terror organizations, mostly backed by Iran, are filling in the vacuum' during a recent ceremony held in Tel Aviv...
"In just a few words, Mr. Netanyahu managed to accurately summarize a clear and present danger, not just to Israel (which obviously is his concern), but to other U.S. allies in the region. What is absurd, however, is that despite this being perhaps the only thing that brings together Arabs and Israelis (as it threatens them all), the only stakeholder that seems not to realize the danger of the situation is President Obama, who is now infamous for being the latest pen-pal of the Supreme Leader of the World's biggest terrorist regime: Ayottallah Ali Khamenei (Although, the latter never seems to write back!)
"Just to be clear, nobody disagrees that ridding Iran of its nuclear ambitions is paramount. And if this can be achieved peacefully, then it would be even better. However, [no] reasonable man can possibly turn a blind eye to the other realities on the ground. Indeed, it is Mr. Obama's controversial take on managing global conflicts that raises serious questions. A case in point is his handling of the Syrian crisis, where according to his own philosophical views, Obama probably takes pride that he managed to rid the Assad regime of its chemical weapons arsenal without firing a single bullet. Of course, in theory, this could be quite an achievement... but in reality, the problem with what happened is that the REAL issue hasn't been resolved; as such, the Syrian regime continues – until this day – to slaughter [its] own people (albeit using conventional weapons, you know… your everyday bullets, missiles and barrel bombs)!"
"The Real Iranian Threat Is Not Just The Regime's Nuclear Ambitions, But Its Expansionist Approach And State-Sponsored Terrorism Activities"

"As such, the real Iranian threat is not just the regime's nuclear ambitions, but its expansionist approach and state-sponsored terrorism activities, which are still ongoing. What is noteworthy is that, whilst in the past Tehran plotted and implemented most of its terror activities in secret (apart from a few obvious examples such as the 1983 Beirut attack on U.S. Marines), today the Islamic Republic seems so at ease that, as noted by renowned media columnist Diana Moukalled recently,[2] it went public with documenting the appearances of Iranian General Qassim Soleimani, commander of the Quds Force. In her latest column, [Diana] Moukalled wrote the days of the few, amateur shots of the infamous Commander are long gone. 'Since a few months [ago], photos of Qassim Soleimani have become plentiful and available in High Definition. Soleimani is no longer that secretive personality whose role over the past two decades has lingered been between myth and reality. He is now telling us bluntly: Yes, I am Iran's strongman who is responsible for the Iranian military's expansion in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Palestine,' she wrote. A photograph posted by Mashregh News, an Iranian outlet close to the country's Revolutionary Guards Corps, shows top Iranian general Qassem Soleimani (R) embracing the leader of Iraq's Shiite Badr militia Hadi al-Amiri. This picture is not dated, but is thought to have been taken in 2014.
"Among his many [dealings], Soleimani is [also] the godfather of Iraq's infamous 'Asaa'ib Ahl Al-Haq' (AAS) brigade, a Shiite paramilitary terrorist group responsible for dozens of atrocious attacks and murdering of both Iraqis and Americans.
"Not only is Iran responsible for sponsoring Shiite terrorist groups, but Sunni ones too. In fact, according to the U.S.'s own State Department, Tehran was home to a number of Al-Qaeda facilitators and high ranking financiers. These accusations are also backed by findings of the U.S. Treasury Department as well.
"Now, some would argue that it would be biased and/or naive to leave Arab countries, such as Saudi Arabia, out of the equation and blame most of the regions problems on the mischievous Iranian regime. On the contrary, it would be biased and/or naïve NOT to blame Iran for such problems. Yes, there are terrorists in Saudi Arabia and there are people who financed terrorism, but these are officially outlaws, who are either in jail, being hunted down or are hiding in the caves of Tora Bora or some other remote area. The same, sadly, doesn't apply to the terrorists of Iran; these are in uniform, hold government positions and are not bothering to hide their evil plots anymore!"


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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:11 am

lol! And you haven't worked out WHY he said that?

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:14 am

risingsun wrote:lol!  And you haven't worked out WHY he said that?

What sort of question is that?

Oh well the usual sassy reply.

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:16 am

In a March 2, 2015 article in the Saudi daily Al-Jazirah, columnist Dr. Ahmad Al-Faraj supported Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's decision to speak at the U.S. Congress against the upcoming deal with Iran. Al-Faraj said that Obama, "one of the worst American presidents," is working to sign a deal with Iran at the expense of America's longtime allies in the Gulf, and therefore Netanyahu's campaign against the deal is justified and serves the interests of the Gulf states.
The following are the main points of the article:


http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/8459.htm


You see Veya, we are right all along how this is a Saudi and Iran conflict, I mean for Saudi's to back Israel shows how far this is going.

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:18 am

I'm asking a question? Have you worked out WHY he said it, because if you haven't, you don't realise why posting it makes you look silly.

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:20 am

risingsun wrote:I'm asking a question?  Have you worked out WHY he said it, because if you haven't, you don't realise why posting it makes you look silly.

What a daft question, of course I know why he said it.
You though will come out no doubt with some incorrect view, but he like mosyt arab states fear Iran and its intentions which you have no idea about.
The fact is both Iran and Saudi are a threat to the peace in Middle east and you are clueles to even notice this, with your eyes fixed on Israel.

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:21 am

Oh come on Dodge, you can't be that dense.

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:22 am

risingsun wrote:Oh come on Dodge, you can't be that dense.

Well it seems you just want to do your usual merry dance Stassi.

Please share your views so we can all laugh in your face as per usual

Razz

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:23 am

In the February 19, 2015 installment of his weekly column in Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, former Jordanian information minister Saleh Al-Qallab said that Iran is now on Jordan's border, having recently deployed military units in southern Syria. He stressed that Jordan must not allow its northern border become a de-facto border with Iran, even at the cost of war. He added that Iran was striving to redraw the map of the region while subjecting it to its influence. He also noted that Iran's current moves matched the predictions of the Jordanian king from 2004 that Iran would strive to create a Shi'ite crescent stretching from Lebanon through Iraq and Syria to Yemen. He warned the Arab states that they may be the next in line should Assad succeed in defeating the Syrian opposition. 


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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:25 am

I'll give you a clue that you can ponder while you go back to work, from 2013, The New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-the-iran-deal-scares-saudi-arabia

Now I'm off swimming and I presume your break must be nearly over Smile

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:28 am

risingsun wrote:I'll give you a clue that you can ponder while you go back to work, from 2013, The New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-the-iran-deal-scares-saudi-arabia

Now I'm off swimming and I presume your break must be nearly over Smile

Is that your evidence?

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:29 am

Seriously did Stassi miss what I posted earlier.
Lets see if she can engage her brain and read back

Fucking pricless and thanks Stassi

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:52 pm

No Dodge, I didn't miss what you said.  It simply focused on one thing when the reason for the article in the OP was because of the other thing touched on in the article I posted to give you a hint.

Saudi's displeasure with Iran is common knowlege, but it has watched recently and seen the influence it has with the USA fall as the talks between Iran and the US have become cordial.  Up to this point, Saudi has been the US's only ally in the arab word and it hates seeing that erroded.  It held sway over many of US decisions and Iran has managed to undermine that and get the US to go down a track that Saudi hates.  Saudi no longer has the hold it did, and the more the US deals with Iran, the less Saudi's influence will become.  So obviously, they want to reset the agenda of Iran as the big, bad bogey man and re-exert their influence.  A ME with them not the key player is something they don't want to think about.

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Post by Original Quill Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:14 pm

Brasidas wrote:In Just A Few Words, Mr. Netanyahu Managed To Accurately Summarize A Clear And Present Danger"
"It is extremely rare for any reasonable person to ever agree with anything Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says or does. However, one must admit, Bibi did get it right, at least when it came to dealing with Iran. The Israeli PM managed to hit the nail right on the head when he said that Middle Eastern countries are collapsing and that 'terror organizations, mostly backed by Iran, are filling in the vacuum' during a recent ceremony held in Tel Aviv...
"In just a few words, Mr. Netanyahu managed to accurately summarize a clear and present danger, not just to Israel (which obviously is his concern), but to other U.S. allies in the region. What is absurd, however, is that despite this being perhaps the only thing that brings together Arabs and Israelis (as it threatens them all), the only stakeholder that seems not to realize the danger of the situation is President Obama, who is now infamous for being the latest pen-pal of the Supreme Leader of the World's biggest terrorist regime: Ayottallah Ali Khamenei (Although, the latter never seems to write back!)
"Just to be clear, nobody disagrees that ridding Iran of its nuclear ambitions is paramount. And if this can be achieved peacefully, then it would be even better. However, [no] reasonable man can possibly turn a blind eye to the other realities on the ground. Indeed, it is Mr. Obama's controversial take on managing global conflicts that raises serious questions. A case in point is his handling of the Syrian crisis, where according to his own philosophical views, Obama probably takes pride that he managed to rid the Assad regime of its chemical weapons arsenal without firing a single bullet. Of course, in theory, this could be quite an achievement... but in reality, the problem with what happened is that the REAL issue hasn't been resolved; as such, the Syrian regime continues – until this day – to slaughter [its] own people (albeit using conventional weapons, you know… your everyday bullets, missiles and barrel bombs)!"
"The Real Iranian Threat Is Not Just The Regime's Nuclear Ambitions, But Its Expansionist Approach And State-Sponsored Terrorism Activities"

"As such, the real Iranian threat is not just the regime's nuclear ambitions, but its expansionist approach and state-sponsored terrorism activities, which are still ongoing. What is noteworthy is that, whilst in the past Tehran plotted and implemented most of its terror activities in secret (apart from a few obvious examples such as the 1983 Beirut attack on U.S. Marines), today the Islamic Republic seems so at ease that, as noted by renowned media columnist Diana Moukalled recently,[2] it went public with documenting the appearances of Iranian General Qassim Soleimani, commander of the Quds Force. In her latest column, [Diana] Moukalled wrote the days of the few, amateur shots of the infamous Commander are long gone. 'Since a few months [ago], photos of Qassim Soleimani have become plentiful and available in High Definition. Soleimani is no longer that secretive personality whose role over the past two decades has lingered been between myth and reality. He is now telling us bluntly: Yes, I am Iran's strongman who is responsible for the Iranian military's expansion in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Palestine,' she wrote. A photograph posted by Mashregh News, an Iranian outlet close to the country's Revolutionary Guards Corps, shows top Iranian general Qassem Soleimani (R) embracing the leader of Iraq's Shiite Badr militia Hadi al-Amiri. This picture is not dated, but is thought to have been taken in 2014.
"Among his many [dealings], Soleimani is [also] the godfather of Iraq's infamous 'Asaa'ib Ahl Al-Haq' (AAS) brigade, a Shiite paramilitary terrorist group responsible for dozens of atrocious attacks and murdering of both Iraqis and Americans.
"Not only is Iran responsible for sponsoring Shiite terrorist groups, but Sunni ones too. In fact, according to the U.S.'s own State Department, Tehran was home to a number of Al-Qaeda facilitators and high ranking financiers. These accusations are also backed by findings of the U.S. Treasury Department as well.
"Now, some would argue that it would be biased and/or naive to leave Arab countries, such as Saudi Arabia, out of the equation and blame most of the regions problems on the mischievous Iranian regime. On the contrary, it would be biased and/or naïve NOT to blame Iran for such problems. Yes, there are terrorists in Saudi Arabia and there are people who financed terrorism, but these are officially outlaws, who are either in jail, being hunted down or are hiding in the caves of Tora Bora or some other remote area. The same, sadly, doesn't apply to the terrorists of Iran; these are in uniform, hold government positions and are not bothering to hide their evil plots anymore!"


http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/8461.htm

Let's begin by asking ourselves dispassionately: What danger?  The idea of hordes of Muslims manning wooden troop ships, curved swords waving in the air, shouting ‘Praise Allah and pass the cheesecake’ and sailing into New York harbor like The Mouse that Roared, is comical.   Yet in reality that is the picture that Mr. Netanyahu is relying upon.  The one thing that Mr. Netanyahu and the Muslim manipulators have in common is they are trying to frighten, where no real frightening circumstances exist.

The most that HAMAS can do is bring down a couple more towers, and while we would never wish that…it calls, after all, for a police action, not a military response as Mr. Netanyahu would wish.  The only reason it led to war the last time is that someone lied rather skillfully and redirected all that anger into an Iraq war that had nothing to do with terrorism.  Even on 9/11 only 19-men were involved--and they were already dead!  If you need the entire military for only 19 men, who are already dead, you have got a really piss-poor army.

What ISIL is doing is substituting intensity for numbers.  They do not have the numbers to invade the US.  They do not have the number of ships.  They do not have the number of aircraft.  They do not have the number of tanks.  They do not have the many skills.  And they certainly do not have the tons of money necessary to invade America.

So they do what Madison Avenue does...put ads on the Internet.  They chop off a few heads and film it.  Sure it's vulgar and intense.  That is the bait and switch: where you don't have the numbers, you try to shock them into action.  Intensity!  The simple fact is, if you ignore them and don't get sucked into their game, they will just go away in time.  All they have for ammunition is emotion.  Show them that doesn't work, and they have to give up.

What Mr. Netanyahu calls for is a combination of racism and militarism…not militarism for the US, but for Israel.  All Muslims are bad, and they are coming to get you, America!  That is essentially what we are hearing from Mr. Netanyahu.  He too is substituting emotional pleas for reality.  Iran is not a threat to the US.  It is probably not a threat to Europe.  Even with nuclear capabilities, Iran does not have the missile capacity.  What Iran has is Gaza...a platform for an attack on Israel.  Stripped of all the fanfare, Mr. Netanyahu is recruiting western military might to fight his wars for him.  Haven't we heard this music before?

Mr. Netanyahu wants his war with Iran.  Let him have it.  We are turning our phones off.  It’s not our problem.

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risingsun wrote:No Dodge, I didn't miss what you said.  It simply focused on one thing when the reason for the article in the OP was because of the other thing touched on in the article I posted to give you a hint.

Saudi's displeasure with Iran is common knowlege, but it has watched recently and seen the influence it has with the USA fall as the talks between Iran and the US have become cordial.  Up to this point, Saudi has been the US's only ally in the arab word and it hates seeing that erroded.  It held sway over many of US decisions and Iran has managed to undermine that and get the US to go down a track that Saudi hates.  Saudi no longer has the hold it did, and the more the US deals with Iran, the less Saudi's influence will become.  So obviously, they want to reset the agenda of Iran as the big, bad bogey man and re-exert their influence.  A ME with them not the key player is something they don't want to think about.

Hilarious, read back again to what I said to Veya love, so funny it is beyond beleif.
As to your views on this man that is as usual the lefty drivel.

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What on earth are you going on about?
This is Muslims fearing extremist Muslims.
Seriously start grasping what is actually going on in regards to supremacy of Islma between Iran and Saudi

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Post by Original Quill Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:30 pm

If it is Muslim on Muslim, didge, it far better to let the Middle East world take care of its own. If we, or Europe, get involved it adds to the set pieces, and confuses the whole picture.

It's not our concern. It's like putting a whole army in place to man a mere traffic stop. Saudi vs. Iran or Israel vs. Iran, it's not our concern.

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Original Quill wrote:If it is Muslim on Muslim, didge, it far better to let the Middle East world take care of its own.  If we, or Europe, get involved it adds to the set pieces, and confuses the whole picture.

It's not our concern.  It's like putting a whole army in place to man a mere traffic stop.  Saudi vs. Iran or Israel vs. Iran, it's not our concern.


Where did I make any other claims?
This a sectarian conflcit played out over ideologies as to who will gain supremacy which has been going on for centuries.
Look again at where these conflicts are being fought out and who with.

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Post by Original Quill Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:51 pm

It really wasn't any claim of yours that I was addressing, just the lead article.

It seems the author has some problem with the detachment of Mr. Obama. The simple answer is, it's not our problem.

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Original Quill wrote:It really wasn't any claim of yours that I was addressing, just the lead article.

It seems the author has some problem with the detachment of Mr. Obama.  The simple answer is, it's not our problem.

Its is not your problem is what you are saying Quill, you are just one American.

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Post by Original Quill Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:36 pm

Brasidas wrote:
Original Quill wrote:It really wasn't any claim of yours that I was addressing, just the lead article.

It seems the author has some problem with the detachment of Mr. Obama.  The simple answer is, it's not our problem.

Its is not your problem is what you are saying Quill, you are just one American.

That's a non sequitur, didge, since the subject is not about me.  The article starts with criticism of Mr. Obama...and the criticism is as to what America should do.

America should do nothing, as it's not our problem.  I think that's the platform of Mr. Obama, save that he is dropping a few bombs.  Mr. Netanyahu is at a loss for words to that.

In any case, Mr. Netanyahu completely fails to understand American politics.  America is a racist nation. Congress operates apart from the President, because it is controlled by Republicans and Republicans dislike blacks.  Mr. Obama is black.  So, Congress will take the measure of what Mr. Obama should do, and do the opposite.  The whole point is to make a black President look bad.

If Mr. Obama were to take a military stand right now, he would look good to the short-sighted...and Republicans are short-sighted.  So, according to their perception, they must do everything to make him look bad.

Now, Congress must initiate wars, according to Article I of the US Constitution.  To initiate a war would make Mr. Obama look good; Congress does not want that.  Ergo: a Republican Congress will not initiate any wars while Mr. Obama is in power.

Mr. Netanyaho has no idea of this.  He thinks that at some point, the US Congress and the US President will act in unison.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  A racist Republican will never be seen cooperating with a black President.

It's called checks and balances............I guess.   Laughing   I call it hilarious.  The Republicans are dedicated to inactivity while the President is a black; what is required to start a way is activity, not inactivity; the Republicans are playing right into the hands of Democrats, in this case.

So short-term goals...long-term goals...it's all academic at this point.  Republicans want to carry out their program of inactivity at this point; but they also want a war, which requires a lot of activity.  Uh-oh.

Lol...call it bad timing.  Or, divine intervention, if you are a Democrat.

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Post by veya_victaous Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:46 pm

it is not a US problem
USA can just ignore it.
this is a middle eastern problem and will be Europe's or India's long before it is the USA's

it is a bit silly anyway they are not any more of a threat to mankind than Israel.. which is not much
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Post by Original Quill Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:22 pm

veya_victaous wrote:it is not a US problem
USA can just ignore it.
this is a middle eastern problem and will be Europe's or India's long before it is the USA's

it is a bit silly anyway they are not any more of a threat to mankind than Israel.. which is not much  

I am glad you get it, veya. Let me just add that I wasn't being prescriptive, as much as I was being descriptive.

Mr. Netanyahu just doesn't get it. In fact, I hazard to guess that no one who has been brought up in a parliamentary system fully understands separation of powers. You just don't have it in a parliamentary system.

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