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Post by Guest Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:22 am

In fact I recon it should be grounds for further sanctions on Russia

"Russia's road safety regulation has been changed, resulting in sweeping new rules on who can and can't drive.

Transsexuals, transvestites and others with what the regulations call "sexual disorders" are listed among those who aren't allowed to be on the roads.

The regulations are seen as a crackdown on LGBT rights in Russia, and have been criticised by activists.

The government order, which is dated 26 December 2014, bans anyone with a WHO-defined "mental or behavioral disorder" from obtaining a licence.

The classification covers people with "gender identity disorders" and "disorders of sexual preference", which include voyeurism and fetishism.


US human rights group Human Rights First told the Associated Press it was an "alarming violation of the rights of the transgender community" and "just another example of the Russian regime's methodical rollback of basic human rights for its citizens".

from that Huffington post....via that dratted news feed.......


BUT one has to ask WTF is WHO doing saying things like that for gods sake....just what century are they living in???
I find it scary that one of the most influential bodies on the planet has such a backward view on things.....

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Post by veya_victaous Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:11 am

yes it is a bit off that WHO have these things down as 'disorders' Neutral No
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Post by Eilzel Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:27 pm

I would hope so Bee, it does seem very off in deed.

Russia are demonstrating pretty much moronic prejudice here- still, I guess focusing so much attention on a non-problem like this and creating 'enemies within', distracts for the crumbling economy Putin is managing thanks to his inane military strutting in Ukraine.
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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:24 pm

This sheds a little light:

Homosexuality was stricken from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders in 1973. The classification of “gay-related diseases,” however, has remained alive and well in the World Health Organization’s International Classification of Diseases, a standardized guide to medical reporting used by doctors and hospitals around the world. A team of American doctors is looking to remove that classification for good, and issued a report earlier this week reiterating what research has already shown: There is no scientific basis for the classification of sexual orientation-related mental illness. Being LGBTQ is not a disease.

While the WHO directory has not considered homosexuality itself to be a psychological disorder for more than two decades, the category of “homosexual-related diseases” has left open the possibility of clinically condoned discrimination against LGBTQ people around the world, which the report is intended to remediate. In an interview with Take Part, report co-author Susan Cochran, a psychologist and epidemiologist at UCLA, explained the basic aims of the update:

“[It] doesn’t make sense to put something in a book and say, ‘This is a disease,’ when there’s no proof that it is a disease,” Cochran said.

Although being gay or lesbian is no longer classified as a disorder—references to homosexuality as a mental illness were removed from the WHO directory in 1990—in its place emerged new categories of “gay-related” diseases. For example, if a homosexual teenager is confused about his sexual identity, he could be classified as mentally ill under current WHO guidelines, Cochran said. Or if a married man wakes up one day and realizes he’s gay and wants to leave his wife, he could be diagnosed with having sexual relationship disorder.

http://www.salon.com/2014/09/05/a_reminder_from_the_world_health_organization_lgbt_people_are_not_sick/

Still seems in need of reform.
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Post by Original Quill Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:47 pm

A more fruitful (no pun) approach is found in the writings of University of Manitoba associate professor of psychology Robert Altemeyer. He's developed a helpful questionnaire, the Right Wing Authoritarian (RWA) Scale, to identify those harboring authoritarian tendencies:

Reason.com wrote:According to Professor Altemeyer, right-wing authoritarians are cognitively rigid, aggressive, and intolerant. They are characterized by steadfast conformity to group norms, submission to higher status individuals, and aggression toward out-groups and unconventional group members. On the RWA Scale, subjects are asked to agree or disagree with statements like: "Some of the worst people in our country nowadays are those who do not respect our flag, our leaders and the normal way things are supposed to be done" and "There is absolutely nothing wrong with nudist camps." Guess which one RWAs tend to agree with?

The RWA studies are reinforced by studies at Berkeley:

Reason.com wrote:Researchers at the University of California at Berkeley essentially confirmed this view with an meta-analysis of scores of academic studies on conservative political attitudes last year. In the study, "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition," the Berkeley researchers found common psychological factors linked to political conservatism include: fear and aggression, dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity, uncertainty avoidance, need for cognitive closure, and terror management that causes conservatives to shun and even punish outsiders and those who threaten the status of their cherished world views. The researchers did half-heartedly assure readers that their findings do not mean that "conservatism is pathological or that conservative beliefs are necessarily false, irrational, or unprincipled."

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:18 pm

and yet quill its meaningless...since by asking similarly loaded questions i could come up with a yellow lefty surrender monkey index.......

indeed I recon even without seeing the actual questions that title dould be applied to those who answered with the "B" answers....

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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:05 pm

darknessss wrote:and yet quill its meaningless...since by asking similarly loaded questions i could come up with a yellow lefty surrender monkey index.......

indeed I recon even without seeing the actual questions that title dould be applied to those who answered with the "B" answers....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023182332

It does seem like a good way to determine how authoritarian a person is; I took it and at the end, other people's results were revealed. They weren't all the same.

Of course, the test is also a "yellow lefty surrender monkey index" in that if you score low on authoritarianism, you're more of a YLSM Smile
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:30 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
darknessss wrote:and yet quill its meaningless...since by asking similarly loaded questions i could come up with a yellow lefty surrender monkey index.......

indeed I recon even without seeing the actual questions that title dould be applied to those who answered with the "B" answers....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023182332

It does seem like a good way to determine how authoritarian a person is; I took it and at the end, other people's results were revealed. They weren't all the same.

Of course, the test is also a "yellow lefty surrender monkey index" in that if you score low on authoritarianism, you're more of a YLSM Smile
I'm glad you see that

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Post by Original Quill Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:48 pm

darknessss wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023182332

It does seem like a good way to determine how authoritarian a person is; I took it and at the end, other people's results were revealed. They weren't all the same.

Of course, the test is also a "yellow lefty surrender monkey index" in that if you score low on authoritarianism, you're more of a YLSM Smile
I'm glad you see that

Yes, I admit asked it as a loaded gun...like, this is just like that.

Still, the authoritarian index has confounded a lot of people. Authoritarianism means, "favoring complete obedience or subjection to authority as opposed to individual freedom." Wiki. The idea has never been debunked and it is a credible psychological subject. But like many concepts back in the 60s, it conflicted with acceptable modes of political expression, and therefore it was considered taboo to discuss. See, Adorno, T. W., Frenkel-Brunswik, E., Levinson, D.J., Sanford, R. N. (1950). The Authoritarian Personality, (Norton: NY).

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