More Police Terrorists in the USA.

THE Denver cops punched a man in the face and bounced his head off the pavement. They tripped his pregnant wife — and then saw they were being filmed. What happened next has the “land of the free” in uproar.

Late August, Levi Frasier saw a violent scene unfolding on the street before him. So he decided to use his tablet to record it.

As plain-clothed men repeatedly punch a Latino man in the face, they can be heard shouting: “Spit the drugs out! Spit the drugs out!”

In the background, a woman is screaming “stop” in Spanish. Two uniformed officers rush up and help restrain the man — and knock the feet out from beneath the visibly pregnant 25-year-old. She lands on her stomach and face.

Some 55 seconds later, someone shouted “camera”.

A police officer stormed up to the witness, who was white, snatching his device from his hands and threatens him with arrest.

The officers’ victims lay writhing on the ground behind them.

veya_victaous wrote:yeah i thought that it was interesting that people are more outraged at the police taking white guys camera and threatening with arrest than tripping a heavily pregnant woman

Ben_Reilly wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:yeah i thought that it was interesting that people are more outraged at the police taking white guys camera and threatening with arrest than tripping a heavily pregnant woman

Both are outrageous, but I can see how people would be more unnerved by the idea that the police would seize and cover up evidence of their behavior -- thus taking away the best way for citizens to get the police to behave responsibly.

A department spokesman told a local ABC station he “was unsure of the policy related to how and when officers are required to provide medical assistance.” The officers’ conduct is “under investigation.”

The officers believed that the 12-year-old Rice was a “black male” who appeared “about 20.”

The family is outspoken in their belief that their son’s death was avoidable, had the police officers acted appropriately. The U.S. Justice Department has an ongoing investigation into the Cleveland Police “over allegations of excessive and unreasonable deadly force.”

Original Quill wrote:It's a part of the greater racism of the US.  It's easier to dispose of a life if it is not one of your kind.

What I find interesting is, why skin color?

Yes, that would be an event. Here’s the thing. When we talk about race relations in America or racial progress, it’s all nonsense. There are no race relations. White people were crazy. Now they’re not as crazy. To say that black people have made progress would be to say they deserve what happened to them before.

Right. It’s ridiculous.

So, to say Obama is progress is saying that he’s the first black person that is qualified to be president. That’s not black progress. That’s white progress. There’s been black people qualified to be president for hundreds of years. If you saw Tina Turner and Ike having a lovely breakfast over there, would you say their relationship’s improved? Some people would. But a smart person would go, “Oh, he stopped punching her in the face.” It’s not up to her. Ike and Tina Turner’s relationship has nothing to do with Tina Turner. Nothing. It just doesn’t. The question is, you know, my kids are smart, educated, beautiful, polite children. There have been smart, educated, beautiful, polite black children for hundreds of years. The advantage that my children have is that my children are encountering the nicest white people that America has ever produced. Let’s hope America keeps producing nicer white people.

It’s about white people adjusting to a new reality?

Owning their actions. Not even their actions. The actions of your dad. Yeah, it’s unfair that you can get judged by something you didn’t do, but it’s also unfair that you can inherit money that you didn’t work for.

Ben_Reilly wrote:Should add that the one grandmother I got to know was really racist too -- didn't mean to be sexist there

veya_victaous wrote:http://www.vulture.com/2014/11/chris-rock-frank-rich-in-conversation.html

incredibly insightful look at the race relations in the USA from the Chris Rock.


just a piece of the long article

Yes, that would be an event. Here’s the thing. When we talk about race relations in America or racial progress, it’s all nonsense. There are no race relations. White people were crazy. Now they’re not as crazy. To say that black people have made progress would be to say they deserve what happened to them before.

Right. It’s ridiculous.

So, to say Obama is progress is saying that he’s the first black person that is qualified to be president. That’s not black progress. That’s white progress. There’s been black people qualified to be president for hundreds of years. If you saw Tina Turner and Ike having a lovely breakfast over there, would you say their relationship’s improved? Some people would. But a smart person would go, “Oh, he stopped punching her in the face.” It’s not up to her. Ike and Tina Turner’s relationship has nothing to do with Tina Turner. Nothing. It just doesn’t. The question is, you know, my kids are smart, educated, beautiful, polite children. There have been smart, educated, beautiful, polite black children for hundreds of years. The advantage that my children have is that my children are encountering the nicest white people that America has ever produced. Let’s hope America keeps producing nicer white people.

It’s about white people adjusting to a new reality?

Owning their actions. Not even their actions. The actions of your dad. Yeah, it’s unfair that you can get judged by something you didn’t do, but it’s also unfair that you can inherit money that you didn’t work for.

Ben_Reilly wrote:It's actually been a process of transforming a culture, but I only get the chance to see that because I'm on the inside of it. My grandfathers were both profoundly racist, my parents less so. And me, less still.

It's not to justify anything, just to point out that systemic problems like these change slowly, by degrees. Like anything else, if you start from perfection you find it lacking, but if you go back to its actual start, you can judge how much progress has been made. And then you have the problem of self-isolating subcultures -- and Southern White Americans are one of the best examples of that. That urban density we talk about as being a factor in making people less prejudiced? Rich white people actively fight against that in their communities, using money and political power to ensure that if you want your community to parcel out a minimum of one or two acres of land per family, it will.

http://voiceofsandiego.org/2014/07/23/san-diegos-next-density-fight/

FYI -- San Diego is a lonely conservative bastion in California.

Are Aussies racist? No, what is racist? have I been called names? Yes, I have been called names, Aussies do that... but I love Australia and Australians are not racist because I have been here for 5 years now and not a single person has tried to kill me for my religion, and that is the only years of my life that has happened.

Lone Wolf wrote:
"AGEISM" can be a big problem over here in Oz at times, as well...

AS jobseekers aged under 25 and over 35 -> 45 (also depending on such factors as type of job, gender and location..) can well attest..

A grand jury just decided that it will not charge Officer David Pantaleo of the NYPD in the choking death of Eric Garner. This is the second time in two weeks that grand juries decided not to indict police officers in the deaths of two unarmed black men, and a setback for those who argue body cameras are the solution to holding cops accountable for police brutality. Here’s how news outlets and social media have responded so far.

Activist groups who are organizing around the death of Mike Brown in Ferguson took to Twitter to voice their outrage.

There will be no trial for the murder of Eric Garner. Today, a Staten Island grand jury voted not to bring criminal charges against Daniel Pantaleo, the white New York City police officer who held Garner in a chokehold until his death. Pantaleo suspected Garner, who was unarmed, of selling loose cigarettes. The entire confrontation was caught on video. Chokeholds are forbidden by the NYPD. Garner was black, asthmatic, and 43 years old.

Before he died, Garner said “I can’t breathe” 11 times. #ICantBreathe is trending on Twitter worldwide. But another Garner-inspired hashtag is making the rounds as a rallying cry in response to a terrifically tone deaf tweet from the NYPD:

Original Quill wrote:What are you going to do?  American cops are criminals.  And the American people become criminals in order to cover up for the American cops.

America contracted an infection.  Racism was at the creation of America, and it will be the end of America.