Nobody talks about the damage Michael Brown did to Officer Wilson

Officer Wilson told the grand jury that Brown punched him in the face when the officer drove back to him.

Wilson said he tried to get out of his cruiser but Brown slammed the door shut twice and hit him with his fist.

"I felt that another of those punches in my face could knock me out or worse ... I've already taken two to the face and I didn't think I would, the third one could be fatal if he hit me right," Wilson said.

Original Quill wrote:The guy isn't even marred.  That's his complexion.  He's a blue-eyed, English to the core (Wilson is a a surname from Yorkshire) pretty boy.

At least George Zimmerman managed to muss hisself up a bit before the lawyers got their cameras out.

Original Quill wrote:The guy isn't even marred.  That's his complexion.  He's a blue-eyed, English to the core (Wilson is a a surname from Yorkshire) pretty boy.

At least George Zimmerman managed to muss hisself up a bit before the lawyers got their cameras out.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Original Quill wrote:
The guy isn't even marred.  That's his complexion.  He's a blue-eyed, English to the core (Wilson is a a surname from Yorkshire) pretty boy.

At least George Zimmerman managed to muss hisself up a bit before the lawyers got their cameras out.

When did George Zimmerman have time to do that?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Original Quill wrote:
The guy isn't even marred.  That's his complexion.  He's a blue-eyed, English to the core (Wilson is a a surname from Yorkshire) pretty boy.

At least George Zimmerman managed to muss hisself up a bit before the lawyers got their cameras out.

All people with blue eyes are English, and all English people have blue eyes?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Yeah, Wilson looked like he won a slap fight at worst ...

mic.com wrote:
"....  The whole thing, Officer Darren Wilson said, took less than a minute.

In documents released late Monday night after a Missouri grand jury decided not to indict him for the killing of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown, Wilson gives a detailed, firsthand account of what he says happened on that hot summer afternoon in Ferguson. The testimony was given Sept. 16, a little more than five weeks after Wilson encountered Brown walking with his friend Dorian Johnson down the middle of a suburban street.

In Wilson's telling, the 18-year-old is a cross between "Hulk Hogan" and, in what many have noted is a racially charged choice of words, a "demon." The teen is also described as a raging, profane and powerful man who rushes at Wilson through a barrage of bullets, before finally falling after being struck in the head. Wilson's descriptions play on well-worn racial stereotypes that dehumanize black men, perhaps shedding light on his mindset in the moments before he opened fire.

Wilson's testimony below was delivered under oath. The questioners were lawyers for the St. Louis County prosecutor's office. They were not, however, acting as prosecutors. Because this was a grand jury hearing, they were only trying to get Wilson on the record with his story and leave it to the jurors — 12 in all, nine white and three black — to determine if there was probable cause for bringing either murder or manslaughter charges. The jurors were allowed to interrupt at any time to ask questions of their own. They rarely do.

After a brief introduction, Wilson described the events of that day to the grand jury. His testimony contains descriptions of extreme violence and profane language. Here are the 12 most maddening details from his account.

1. Wilson was not called to confront Brown or Johnson.

Wilson testified that he was only in Brown and Johnson's vicinity by chance. He dealt with a "sick call," helping a mother and child into an ambulance, before continuing on his patrol. But before he left, something else came across his radio — a robbery in a nearby store.

Wilson turned left onto Windward Court, which turns into Canfield Drive. He was headed west, toward West Florissant Avenue, which became the locus of the protests in Ferguson that followed.

2. Though Wilson was trained to use a Taser, he chose not to carry one.

Wilson was then asked what kind of weapons he was carrying. He lists a gun, pepper spray and an expandable baton. Wilson was not carrying a Taser — the first in a series of decisions made by the officer that would eventually cost Michael Brown his life.

He went on to describe the initial encounter with Brown and Johnson, who were both walking down the middle of the street. He said the teens were blocking traffic, so he asked them to leave the center of the street. After Johnson said they were "almost to their destination," Wilson turned to Brown.

3. Wilson said Brown snapped at him, asking, "What the fuck are you going to do about it?" when he was asked to get on the sidewalk.

Within seconds, they would be fighting and, another few seconds later, Wilson would be shooting.

4. Wilson said he approached Brown because he thought the teen had robbed a convenience store.

With this, we finally have Wilson's own explanation for why it was appropriate to engage Brown. There had been conflicting reports about whether the officer knew about the alleged convenience store robbery.

Six days after the shooting, police released video of that incident, which appears to show Brown ripping off a pack of cigarillos and walking out of the store. But Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson later said the incident "does not relate to the initial contact between the officer and Michael Brown."
Here — a month later — Wilson suggests that it very much does.

5. After exchanging words, Wilson said Brown struck him through the car window.

According to Wilson, Brown stood less than a foot away after their initial exchange. Brown glowered at him, Wilson said, "almost like to intimidate me or overpower me." Wilson said he told Brown to "get the fuck back." Brown, he said, responded by attacking him, punching him with his right fist through the open car window:

6. Wilson felt like a "5-year-old" fighting "Hulk Hogan."

Now Wilson began to get really detailed about what he was thinking and what kind of threat he believed he faced. Brown was 6 feet 4 inches tall and 292 pounds. Wilson is also 6 feet 4 inches tall, but weighs, by his own account, about 210 pounds.

Wilson described Brown as Hulk Hogan, the famously burly and wild longtime World Wrestling Entertainment star. And it wasn't the last time Wilson used strong, often-problematic language when describing the teen's seemingly supernatural strength.

7. Wilson claimed Brown had a magical pack of stolen cigarillos.

At this point the attorney questioning Wilson seized on a bit of confusion in his telling of the story. She wanted to know where the cigarillos, which Wilson had very carefully noted were being held by Brown, had gone during their altercation. If he was holding them in his right hand, she asks, how was he punching Wilson with it?

Wilson went on to describe a fight half in and half outside his driver-side door. Despite this apparently mortal threat, he recalled seeing Brown, with his left hand, passing the cigarillos to someone we assume is Johnson, Brown's friend.

8. Wilson said Brown said he was "too much of a pussy" to shoot him.

Wilson said he had no other option than to draw his gun.

There was no follow-up on Brown's alleged profane comment. The attorney questioning Wilson then asked him to more clearly articulate why he believed he needed a gun.

9. Wilson believed that Brown would have killed him with one more punch.

"Fatal." Wilson told the court that he believed Brown might have killed him with another punch. Even the attorney was incredulous. "You thought he could hit you and it would be a 'fatal' injury?" she asked.

"Or at least unconscious," Wilson answered. "And then who knows what would happen to me after that?"

10. Wilson said "it" looked like a "demon."

In perhaps the most infuriating passage, Wilson used dismissive language to refer to Brown as "it" when claiming Brown looked like a "demon":

The language here is difficult to stomach. The term, "demon," has long been used in white supremacist propaganda. There is no evidence that Wilson has any ties to racist groups, but his term of choice here is extremely loaded. People will be examining this quote for a long time.

11. Wilson said Brown continued running at him through a hail of gunfire.

After the initial fight and gunshots, Wilson said he jumped out of his car and began to chase Brown. He and Brown made it past two other cars on the street, to a distant light pole, when Brown stopped, turned around and began to run back toward the man shooting at him.

"Still coming." Wilson said Brown continued his bull-rush through a storm of gunfire.

12. Wilson said Brown was not hurt by the gunshots, but got 'mad' at Wilson for shooting.

At this point, Brown — according to Wilson's testimony — had basically become the Incredible Hulk.

Brown had been struck in the head. Forensics experts later found that he was killed immediately by the last shot.


Within minutes, there were multiple cop cars on the scene. Wilson saw his sergeant and began to explain what happened. The sergeant told Wilson to go sit in the SUV. But Wilson refused. There was a crowd forming and he didn't want to be "singled out" as the officer who was doing the shooting.

Wilson then left the scene — and Brown's uncovered body — in the street on a steamy summer. As he left, driving his sergeant's patrol car, he saw another vehicle pull up with a "female driver."

She is now believed to have been Lesley McSpadden, Michael Brown's mother.


A little more than two months after Wilson gave this testimony, the grand jury met for the final time. And Monday night, St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch delivered its decision. Based on this and thousands of other pieces of evidence — from eyewitness testimonies to forensic experts' analyses — the jurors decided that they did not have "probable cause" to think that Wilson acted unlawfully....."

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Lone Wolf wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

All people with blue eyes are English, and all English people have blue eyes?

NOBODY said that !!!

QUILL said that Wiison is a Yorkshire name..

ARE you drunk again, Raggs ?            

He's a blue-eyed, English to the core (Wilson is a a surname from Yorkshire) pretty boy. wrote:

Lone Wolf wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

When did George Zimmerman have time to do that?

ZIMMERMAN had plenty of time available after he committed the murder, before any photo's were taken ~ HOURS, not just minutes...

AND, Even then Zimmrman's photo's showed zero actual injuries from his supposed scuffle !    

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lone Wolf wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

When did George Zimmerman have time to do that?

ZIMMERMAN had plenty of time available after he committed the murder, before any photo's were taken ~ HOURS, not just minutes...

AND, Even then Zimmrman's photo's showed zero actual injuries from his supposed scuffle !    

Really? Surrounded by people who were at the scene straightaway? Do explain how. Did he lie on the ground and bang his own head without anyone noticing?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lone Wolf wrote:


NOBODY said that !!!

QUILL said that Wiison is a Yorkshire name..

ARE you drunk again, Raggs ?            

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Really? Surrounded by people who were at the scene straightaway? Do explain how. Did he lie on the ground and bang his own head without anyone noticing?

If you saw that little scrape on the back of his head, he could definitely have made that while lying down on pavement without anybody noticing -- provided they weren't constantly staring at him.

IT took just two seconds for Cleveland police to determine a 12-year-old black boy carrying what appeared to be a gun was a real threat. They were wrong.

Surveillance video released this morning of the event shows a police cruiser pulling up to the playground gazebo early Saturday afternoon US time after receiving orders to investigate a 911 call of a person with a gun in the park.

The caller told dispatchers twice that the gun was “probably fake”. That detail was not passed on to the responding officers.

Police say the order “show your hands” was shouted three times as their speeding car came to a sudden halt alongside Tamir Rice, who was walking alone.

The surveillance video shows a police officer pulling his gun and opening fire from less than three metres as he emerged from the vehicle.

The shooting follows a similar case in California last year. Police killed a 13-year-old boy carrying a toy gun mistaken as being a real assault rifle. No charges were laid against the deputy involved.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lone Wolf wrote:


ZIMMERMAN had plenty of time available after he committed the murder, before any photo's were taken ~ HOURS, not just minutes...

AND, Even then Zimmrman's photo's showed zero actual injuries from his supposed scuffle !    

Really? Surrounded by people who were at the scene straightaway? Do explain how. Did he lie on the ground and bang his own head without anyone noticing?

Raggamuffin wrote:
There was another shooting of a black guy wasn't there? I can't remember his name. There must be white people who have been shot as well.

My question is this:

Surely everyone in the US knows by now that the cops are a bit trigger happy, so why would they do the slightest thing to upset them? Carrying a toy gun in public is surely going to draw attention to themselves. Even answering back is dangerous. Hitting one is going to get them shot, so why do it?

Lone Wolf wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Really? Surrounded by people who were at the scene straightaway? Do explain how. Did he lie on the ground and bang his own head without anyone noticing?

PEOPLE weren't there "straigthaway", Raggs !!!

THAT'S physically impossible..  Especially considering Zimmerman was prowling around in his arrogantly self-imposed "Neighbourhood Watch" capacity (i.e. going beyond the normal 'watch and report' brief for civilian volunteers..) in a secure locked "gated" estate ~ it would have taken some minutes for the closest nearby neighbours to arrive on the scene, more again for their inhouse security to arrive, and probably more than an hour for the police to actually start their faux 'forensic' examination of Zimmerman..

(THE fact that Zimmerman was in contact with police on his phone is meaningless ~ it's not like their operator could actually "see" anything, is it ?).

YET it's also one of those all-too-convenient LIES that were fabricated by the Florida legal system, to facilitate the fully-corrupted "kangaroo court" that let Zimmerman get away with cold-blooded murder. AND nobody should forget that Zimmerman was back in court for bashing his (now former) wife only a few weeks after being found "not guilty" for murdering an innocent..

YOU should acquaint yourself better with the actual real world FACTS in each case ~ rather than allowing your obvious white supremacist/racist attitudes lead your comments whenever and non-whites are involved...    

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

If you saw that little scrape on the back of his head, he could definitely have made that while lying down on pavement without anybody noticing -- provided they weren't constantly staring at him.

Well no, because there were witnesses who were watching. He was seen underneath Trayvon, and then he was seen standing up. I don't know why people keep implying that the main witness was lying.

Raggamuffin wrote:There was another shooting of a black guy wasn't there? I can't remember his name. There must be white people who have been shot as well.