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Post by Guest Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:33 pm

Twitter users across the world have pledged their allegiance to ISIS in slew of disturbing posts to the extremist group.

The Jihadis launched a blitzkrieg hit on the site at 10.30am, vowing to 'spread the truth' behind their brutal attacks that even Al Qaeda have condemned.

Using the hash tag #AllEyesOnIsis, extremist fighters flooded the social media site with propaganda, luring vulnerable people to join them in Iraq. And within minutes, their stunt - which Twitter is powerless to block or moderate - was met with chilling messages of support from countries all over the globe - from Rome to Australia, Switzerland to America, Kenya to Nepal.

It comes just hours after President Barack Obama announced plans to unleash air strikes on Iraq as world leaders warn of 'a catastrophe of unprecedented scale'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2663447/AllEyesOnIsis-Savvy-Jihadis-set-storm-Twitter-ISIS-propaganda-Q-A-10-30am-morning-Obama-prepares-air-strike-Iraq.html#ixzz35CKABp3z

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:58 pm

The enemy within.....



Under labour the Muslim population of UK doubled.



Thank you labour!!!
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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:49 pm

The hashtag is also being used by Muslims to condemn ISIS, by the way:





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Post by Vintage Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:55 pm

I'm afraid there are many, some on here that will dismiss this out of hand, it'll either be nothing to worry about and over exaggerated by the media just to stir things up or it'll be nasty white racists making it all up again - a world wide consipracy of them. We are constantly told we don't understand Islam, well someone explain this militant Islam to me cos I admit I really don't understand beheadings, mass shootings of prisoners etc. - you know the totally unfettered no rules, anything goes type warring that these fanatics appear to revel in and advertise, because ordinary Muslims don't think they are proper Muslims but these guys think they are and all of us including ordinary Muslims every where will be at as much risk as everyone else if these people get the bit between their teeth in countries all over the world - the few ?.

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:00 pm

Vintage wrote:I'm afraid there are many, some on here that will dismiss this out of hand, it'll either be nothing to worry about and over exaggerated by the media just to stir things up or it'll be nasty white racists making it all up again - a world wide consipracy of them. We are constantly told we don't understand Islam, well someone explain this militant Islam to me cos I admit I really don't understand beheadings, mass shootings of prisoners etc. - you know the totally unfettered no rules, anything goes type warring that these fanatics appear to revel in and advertise, because ordinary Muslims don't think they are proper Muslims but these guys think they are and all of us including ordinary Muslims every where will be at as much risk as everyone else if these people get the bit between their teeth in countries all over the world - the few ?.

All that is relevant, but what do you expert us to do about it, cast all Muslims with this fear they are like this?
Many Muslims are not like this, so seriously what do you expect people to do, cast them all as a threat and castigate them off those who do?

Seriously I would like to know how we should look at Muslims, because of Islam, do we look at them all with disdain because of their faith or each individually off their own views and why?

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Post by Vintage Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:20 pm

Didge you are doing it again, I have not said all Muslims - I'm talking about fanatics using a religion as people do and I have said decent law abiding Muslims will be affected as well, in fact the more law abiding decent and intergrated they are in the countries they now reside in, many who emigrated to get away from regimes like the fanatics want to see in place, the worse it could be for them with these fanatics coming home and the influence they may have on people who haven't actually left the country and will have some romantic ideas of the great jihad in the middle east. I don't know what to do about them other than stop them returning , I do know that a lot of heartache will happen due to this. When you have a rampant group espousing a faith, they may not be behaving as normal members of that faith think they should but just thinking they are wrong and disowning them won't cut it I'm afraid, you can afford to look at individual Muslims when they are part of the community, you can't afford to do that with members - however tentively connected - of terror groups across the globe whose central tenet and belief is the same, in this case Islam however perverted their idea of it is. That goes for any group religious or political who wish to force their ideas on the majority
by deadly force and cohersion.

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:25 pm

Vintage wrote:Didge you are doing it again, I have not said all Muslims - I'm talking about fanatics using a religion as people do and I have said decent law abiding Muslims will be affected as well, in fact the more law abiding decent and intergrated they are in the countries they now reside in, many who emigrated to get away from regimes like the fanatics want to see in place, the worse it could be for them with these fanatics coming home and the influence they may have on people who haven't actually left the country and will have some romantic ideas of the great jihad in the middle east. I don't know what to do about them other than stop them returning , I do know that a lot of heartache will happen due to this. When you have a rampant group espousing a faith, they may not be behaving as normal members of that faith think they should but just thinking they are wrong and disowning them won't cut it I'm afraid, you can afford to look at individual Muslims when they are part of the community, you can't afford to do that with members - however tentively connected - of terror groups across the globe whose central tenet and belief is the same, in this case Islam however perverted their idea of it is. That goes for any group religious or political who wish to force their ideas on the majority
by deadly force and cohersion.


I never said you were talking about all Muslims, I asked you what do you expect people to do, in how they view Muslims that follow Islam.

So again how should we view Muslims in this country that follow Islam?

I mean I accept your view point on extremists, but these arguments are often used to castigate Muslims through a belief, this is Islam, so how should we perceive them based off your view points?

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Post by Vintage Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:10 pm

As I stated you take each person as you find them, if Muslims are prepared to join in with the rest of us at least to a degree, I see no problem with the above, however if there are some people who wish to remain apart in self contained communities who just live their lives as they would have done in their or their parents home countries except that they happen to be in Britain, then they might well tend to generate suspicion, where communities are secret in their daily life it can hide a lot of things even fanatics, it cannot be a good thing for anyone to have communities from anywhere setting up separate areas in these islands it'll only lead to mistrust and divisty, the very opposite to what was expected to happen. Everyone is subject to British law and should realise that if they wish to live here - no exceptions to be made in method of investigation due to ethnicity, politics or religion - in other words no pussy footing around and 'sensitivities' in case you get labelled racist.

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:23 pm

Vintage wrote:As I stated you take each person as you find them, if Muslims are prepared to join in with the rest of us at least to a degree, I see no problem with the above, however if there are some people who wish to remain apart in self contained communities who just live their lives as they would have done in their or their parents home countries except that they happen to be in Britain, then they might well tend to generate suspicion, where communities are secret in their daily life it can hide a lot of things even fanatics, it cannot be a good thing for anyone to have communities from anywhere setting up separate areas in these islands it'll only lead to mistrust and divisty, the very opposite to what was expected to happen. Everyone is subject to British law and should realise that if they wish to live here - no exceptions to be made in method of investigation due to ethnicity, politics or religion - in other words no pussy footing around and 'sensitivities' in case you get labelled racist.

But how do you tell apart those who you feel generate suspicion? I mean we have Jewish families that are orthodox as we do other faiths, and they keep within their communities as they have done for centuries, are we to only view such groups if the only association is some others from their faith are today terrorists? I mean not so long back British soldiers were being blown up in Palestine, is that then a reason to view those who we would class as conservative/orthodox Jews with suspicion?  We have always had communities separate from us and not only here, look at the Amish, so the view point is not really about how they close themselves off but if people in a specific time period are of an extremist nature act out vile crimes is it not?

Everyone is subject to British law and many follow British law, but my point is how do you differentiate between those who are orthodox and of those who turn to extremism? Does it serve any purpose to view this way, or have the opposite affect?  You never win over people by ostracizing them, even if they isolate themselves, they have because they will not have feel welcome. That is not your fault, but we have seem such measures with stereotype stop and search and it did not yield a single case after half a million for an arrests to a single terrorist. I am not saying do not be vigilant, I am saying with how you argue what do you expect people to do, lead their lives with constant suspicion?

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:53 am

Vintage wrote:As I stated you take each person as you find them, if Muslims are prepared to join in with the rest of us at least to a degree, I see no problem with the above, however if there are some people who wish to remain apart in self contained communities who just live their lives as they would have done in their or their parents home countries except that they happen to be in Britain, then they might well tend to generate suspicion, where communities are secret in their daily life it can hide a lot of things even fanatics, it cannot be a good thing for anyone to have communities from anywhere setting up separate areas in these islands it'll only lead to mistrust and divisty, the very opposite to what was expected to happen. Everyone is subject to British law and should realise that if they wish to live here - no exceptions to be made in method of investigation due to ethnicity, politics or religion - in other words no pussy footing around and 'sensitivities' in case you get labelled racist.

What about the type of person who would move to another country, choose to preserve as much of their old life as they can, but at the same time not engage in anti-social behaviors? Even if they are forming "islands," who are they hurting? And why come down on communities that don't harm society? Is it just to preserve some ephemeral notion of what it means to be a citizen of some piece of land lying within artificially designated borders?

I always go back to my home, Texas, as an example. We have tons of people of Mexican descent whose families were living on this land long before it became part of the U.S. and who carry out their lives more like they were still Mexicans than like typical Americans do. If they can do that without disrupting their communities, should we still tell them they should adopt U.S. customs based on the fact that our military forced the border southward? That doesn't make any sense and it's not a peaceful way to relate to your fellow human beings, imo. I guess what I'm saying is, it's only appropriate to tell someone else how to live, no matter where they make their home, if they're hurting others.
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:32 am

Didge wrote:
Vintage wrote:Didge you are doing it again, I have not said all Muslims - I'm talking about fanatics using a religion as people do and I have said decent law abiding Muslims will be affected as well, in fact the more law abiding decent and intergrated they are in the countries they now reside in, many who emigrated to get away from regimes like the fanatics want to see in place, the worse it could be for them with these fanatics coming home and the influence they may have on people who haven't actually left the country and will have some romantic ideas of the great jihad in the middle east. I don't know what to do about them other than stop them returning , I do know that a lot of heartache will happen due to this. When you have a rampant group espousing a faith, they may not be behaving as normal members of that faith think they should but just thinking they are wrong and disowning them won't cut it I'm afraid, you can afford to look at individual Muslims when they are part of the community, you can't afford to do that with members - however tentively connected - of terror groups across the globe whose central tenet and belief is the same, in this case Islam however perverted their idea of it is. That goes for any group religious or political who wish to force their ideas on the majority
by deadly force and cohersion.

I never said you were talking about all Muslims, I asked you what do you expect people to do, in how they view Muslims that follow Islam.

So again how should we view Muslims in this country that follow Islam?

I mean I accept your view point on extremists, but these arguments are often used to castigate Muslims through a belief, this is Islam, so how should we perceive them based off your view points?

The most worrying aspect to me is the deceit. Take the video of the three british jihadis recruiting for ISIS - the main one turned out to be from a pretty decent 'British' family in Cardiff - he was training to be a 'medic' (I presume they mean paramedic?) - anyway, seemingly a well-adjusted jolly British type of fellow - one of the 'moderate' Muslims you're always telling me would stand up for the British in times of war - so why haven't they joined the British armed forces instead of jihad threatening to attack Britain?

As I've said often - wolves in sheep's clothing...

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:33 am

Yes Tess, do you have anything to add?

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:36 am

Tesstacious wrote:
Didge wrote:

I never said you were talking about all Muslims, I asked you what do you expect people to do, in how they view Muslims that follow Islam.

So again how should we view Muslims in this country that follow Islam?

I mean I accept your view point on extremists, but these arguments are often used to castigate Muslims through a belief, this is Islam, so how should we perceive them based off your view points?

The most worrying aspect to me is the deceit.  Take the video of the three british jihadis recruiting for ISIS - the main one turned out to be from a pretty decent 'British' family in Cardiff - he was training to be a 'medic' (I presume they mean paramedic?) - anyway, seemingly a well-adjusted jolly British type of fellow - one of the 'moderate' Muslims you're always telling me would stand up for the British in times of war - so why haven't they joined the British armed forces instead of jihad threatening to attack Britain?

As I've said often - wolves in sheep's clothing...


So again how do we thus look upon all Muslims Tess, with suspicions?

So your view is again one of fallacy associations, thus if somebody is Irish an is an IRA bomber we should thus look at all Irish as suspected terrorist. If a man is a a pedophile, we should thus look at all men as suspected pedophiles, if a woman neglects her child, we should look at all women as suspected of child neglect?

Is this the logic you are proposing to me?

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Post by nicko Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:40 am

Didge, arguing for the sake of it, you do it all the time we can all see that and stop with the c@p all the while.Are you trying to appear educated heh heh heh.
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:41 am

nicko wrote:Didge,  arguing for the sake of it, you do it all the time we can all see that and stop with the c@p all the while.Are you trying to appear educated  heh heh heh.



As usual no debate from Nicko, just attacking posters, as he always does, what a child

Debate the points and stop being so infantile

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Post by nicko Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:43 am

can't debate with you didge, whats the point? your all ways right!!
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:45 am

nicko wrote:can't debate with you didge, whats the point? your all ways right!!


That is your issue not mine, all it sounds like is a copout to me, that you have nothing to offer and excuse why you do.

I suggest you learn to grow up and then engage in debate, because all you ever seem to do is go on about other posters all the time, clearly you really have some issues

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