So Let's Have Your Guesses

6th June 2014

How many foreigners will be in court for manslaughter or murder on my thread - the thread mainly counts for those in the Greater London area - i usually just use one website you see.

I think the UK usually has around 6 - 700 murders per year?

Go on, have a guess, what's the worst that can happen?

BigAndy9 wrote:6th June 2014

How many foreigners will be in court for manslaughter or murder on my thread - the thread mainly counts for those in the Greater London area - i usually just use one website you see.

I think the UK usually has around 6 - 700 murders per year?

Go on, have a guess, what's the worst that can happen?

Well I think you need to prove if they are foreign first before you are able to collaborate any predictions an so far you have failed to do that.
Thus it is pointless to guess off your poor methodology on who are foreign killers, where waht you decide is not the real figure, and you end up awarding the wrong winner

Didge wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:6th June 2014

How many foreigners will be in court for manslaughter or murder on my thread - the thread mainly counts for those in the Greater London area - i usually just use one website you see.

I think the UK usually has around 6 - 700 murders per year?

Go on, have a guess, what's the worst that can happen?

Well I think you need to prove if they are foreign first before you are able to collaborate any predictions an so far you have failed to do that.
Thus it is pointless to guess off your poor methodology on who are foreign killers, where waht you decide is not the real figure, and you end up awarding the wrong winner

Well it's gonna happen anyway.


  

BigAndy9 wrote:

Didge wrote:


Well I think you need to prove if they are foreign first before you are able to collaborate any predictions an so far you have failed to do that.
Thus it is pointless to guess off your poor methodology on who are foreign killers, where waht you decide is not the real figure, and you end up awarding the wrong winner

Well it's gonna happen anyway.


  

Should be both amusing and even more so embarrassing for you, so be my guest

Let's say foreign means not born here.

I'll hazard a guess at...... 279

eddie wrote:Let's say foreign means not born here.

I'll hazard a guess at...... 279

Interesting, how come you conclude over 50% will be based off the number you gave?

I raise eddie 21.

I'm gonna be bold and say 300.

Ah.So this is what its all about.
You think foreigners commit more murders.  

Andy you are so wonderfully un politically correct I sometimes marvel at your bravery!

BigAndy9 wrote:6th June 2014

How many foreigners will be in court for manslaughter or murder on my thread - the thread mainly counts for those in the Greater London area - i usually just use one website you see.

I think the UK usually has around 6 - 700 murders per year?

Go on, have a guess, what's the worst that can happen?

551 murders in England and Wales in the year 2013

In Scotland there was 91 in the same period.

It might actually surprise you to learn that the rate of murders in this country has been going down pretty much year on year since the beginning of this century.

BigAndy9 wrote:6th June 2014

How many foreigners will be in court for manslaughter or murder on my thread - the thread mainly counts for those in the Greater London area - i usually just use one website you see.

I think the UK usually has around 6 - 700 murders per year?

Go on, have a guess, what's the worst that can happen?

Why don't you open it up to include a guess on how many white Brits commit murders Andy?

BigAndy9 wrote:6th June 2014

How many foreigners will be in court for manslaughter or murder on my thread - the thread mainly counts for those in the Greater London area - i usually just use one website you see.

I think the UK usually has around 6 - 700 murders per year?

Go on, have a guess, what's the worst that can happen?

Depends what you mean by foreigners.  Do you mean ethnicities other than white or do you mean actually born outside of Great Britain.

Figures exist for apparent ethnicity of the offender but I don't think they exist for where they were actually born.

Didge wrote:

eddie wrote:Let's say foreign means not born here.

I'll hazard a guess at...... 279

Interesting, how come you conclude over 50% will be based off the number you gave?

I dunno. It's a guess didge.   
I told you, I answer questions put to me and I'm not afraid to answer them.

Last figures I read said that 'immigrants' (people born outside of the UK, illegal or legal) were responsible for one fifth of the murders in the UK. So I reckon 150. Ish.

In the years 2009/2010 and 2011/2012 its worth noting that of the white people murdered 90% of them were murdered by white people, of the black people murdered 74% were murdered by black people and of Asian people murdered 57% were murdered by Asian people.

In the same period 6% of white people murdered were killed by black people and 2% by Asians, 16% of black people murdered were killed by white people and 5% by Asians, 24% of Asian people murdered were killed by white people and 14% killed by black people, hence in all cases the largest majority of people murdered were killed by people of their own ethnicity.

There is set of figures under 'other ethnicity' but i've ignored them in this post because I don't know what 'other ethnicity' is made up of but you can see this set of figures for yourselves on page 36 of:

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171778_298904.pdf

eddie wrote:

Didge wrote:


Interesting, how come you conclude over 50% will be based off the number you gave?

I dunno. It's a guess didge.   
I told you, I answer questions put to me and I'm not afraid to answer them.

Wow, so you have no idea how you came to this guess, not even an educated guess then?

Very odd really when most people make educated guesses and also have seen you ignore questions posed before, so really find your answer weird and hence my question, but no problem if you do not have a reason behind your guess. Also what a very morbid topic to place guesses on.

Didge wrote:

eddie wrote:

I dunno. It's a guess didge.   
I told you, I answer questions put to me and I'm not afraid to answer them.

Wow, so you have no idea how you came to this guess, not even an educated guess then?

Very odd really when most people make educated guesses and also have seen you ignore questions posed before, so really find your answer weird and hence my question, but no problem if you do not have a reason behind your guess. Also what a very morbid topic to place guesses on.

Morbid..and a little odd if I may be so bold.
The whole topic I mean,not Eddie's response.

We need to know what kind of scum are in our country committing murders .

Vicar of Dibley wrote:We need to know what kind of scum are in our country committing murders .

Scum of every race, creed and ethnicity if you look at the figures i posted.

Didge wrote:

eddie wrote:

I dunno. It's a guess didge.   
I told you, I answer questions put to me and I'm not afraid to answer them.

Wow, so you have no idea how you came to this guess, not even an educated guess then?

Very odd really when most people make educated guesses and also have seen you ignore questions posed before, so really find your answer weird and hence my question, but no problem if you do not have a reason behind your guess. Also what a very morbid topic to place guesses on.

It was tongue in cheek tbh, didge. No one was responding so I said a number.
Calm down.

Spindleshanks wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:We need to know what kind of scum are in our country committing murders .

Scum of every race, creed and ethnicity if you look at the figures i posted.

Well exactly,there will be criminals of all ethnicity,age,gender..I don't see the point of this thread tbh.

FluffyBunny wrote:

Spindleshanks wrote:

Scum of every race, creed and ethnicity if you look at the figures i posted.

Well exactly,there will be criminals of all ethnicity,age,gender..I don't see the point of this thread tbh.

Because nobody else is saying it (they are scared sh1tless).

That's the reason.

BigAndy9 wrote:

FluffyBunny wrote:

Well exactly,there will be criminals of all ethnicity,age,gender..I don't see the point of this thread tbh.

Because nobody else is saying it (they are scared sh1tless).

That's the reason.

Scared shitless of what, the evidence you are looking for (except for place of birth as far as I can tell) is well and truly out there for all to read.