Another terrorist attack in the UK

by Irn Bru Sat May 31, 2014 4:48 pm

First topic message reminder :

Londonderry explosion: 'Firebomb' explodes in Everglades Hotel

Bombers who attacked a hotel in Londonderry on Thursday night have been called cowards by the local police commander.

A masked man threw what police have described as a "firebomb" into the reception area of the Everglades Hotel, in the Prehen area of the city.

It was evacuated after the device was reported at 23:15 BST on Thursday.

The device exploded a short time later when Army bomb experts were working to make it safe.

No-one was injured in the explosion but the reception was extensively damaged.

PSNI Chief Superintendent Stephen Cargin said: "A masked man went into the hotel and left a hold-all at the reception desk saying he was from the IRA.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27631542

Some people just never give up and much of it is on the back of religion as much as just nationalism.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:11 pm

and before you laugh....such a thing has ALREADY happened....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:12 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:The point is once you start advancing the cloud of censorship, those who hold the reins of power WILL misuse it..

start with bombs...which might be "reasonable" and then let it roll forward...after all imagine how much MORE money it would make their friends in "trades"

But you support some censorship for fuck sake, so that means you back the view to censor and here where it is something illegal, bomb making, the surely the consensus would be to ban something from viewing that is illegal to make?

Seriously common sense, anywhere in that head of yours?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:14 pm

Yet again more unfoudned fear bullshit arguments

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:17 pm

Part P of the building regs...

make it illegal to do most of your own rewireing

do we therefore remove ALL knowledge of electrical installation from the web...

oh and part P was introduced in order to line the pockets of "approvals bodies" like NICEIC and contractors....on the excuse that 34 people died from electric shock in one year...the fact that 90% of those deaths were nothing to do with installations OR installing is never mentioned....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:18 pm

any you think we should "trust" those in power"...simpleton...

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:21 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:Part P of the building regs...

make it illegal to do most of your own rewireing

do we therefore remove ALL knowledge of electrical installation from the web...

oh and part P was introduced in order to line the pockets of "approvals bodies" like NICEIC and contractors....on the excuse that 34 people died from electric shock in one year...the fact that 90% of those deaths were nothing to do with installations OR installing is never mentioned....

Bloody good thing they remove this, you should be a qualified expert to work around electricity.
I would not advocate anyone mucking and tinkering around with such things unless qualified.
It matters little on stats of how many die or get hurt, but the unqualified risk factor of having untrained people tackle electrical problems using the internet.

Risk factors is the key words you need to understand in regards to why something should not be so readily available

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:22 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:any you think we should "trust" those in power"...simpleton...

You think I should trust a person like you afraid of his own shadow?

I do not trust all those in charge, far from it, but can research many things myself, I do not look at things one sided, but all view points, hence why I come to the conclusion that your fear arguments are mainly hot air and have little validity

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:30 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:Part P of the building regs...

make it illegal to do most of your own rewireing

do we therefore remove ALL knowledge of electrical installation from the web...

oh and part P was introduced in order to line the pockets of "approvals bodies" like NICEIC and contractors....on the excuse that 34 people died from electric shock in one year...the fact that 90% of those deaths were nothing to do with installations OR installing is never mentioned....

Bloody good thing they remove this, you should be a qualified expert to work around electricity.

Qualified...dont make me laugh.....ALL you need to do is read and follow the "17th edition" regulations....its all there laid out in a book, any reasonably compos mentis person could do it...it aint rocket science and...whats worse is...having that bit of paper from NICEIC does NOT make better sparkies....its just one of those things you have to have...
I would not advocate anyone mucking and tinkering around with such things unless qualified.

Fear based argument...scaredy cat....frightened it might bite you??? : jeepers...its ONLY 240volts , somebody would think it would jump out and "get you"//?roflmao?/:

ooooh help...its electrickery..... :aspffftas:

It matters little on stats of how many die or get hurt, but the unqualified risk factor of having untrained people tackle electrical problems using the internet.

Risk factors is the key words you need to understand in regards to why something should not be so readily available

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:33 pm

yeah didge I know...you are such a scaredy cat you want a world without risk....

as the thief said to the dwarf in "conan the barbarian" "d'ya wanna live forever"??

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:34 pm

You see I have just proven Victor does not understand risk factors, what he thinks is simple is thus simple to everyone, which is a very flawed philosophy and why people end up getting hurt.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:39 pm

oh I DO understand risk factors....i also understand that the biggest risk in ANY activity is the incompetent who is too stupid to know he/she is incompetent...

SO...why should I suffer because some idiot "darwined" himself by not knowing he was an idiot??

by your argument ALL power tools and sharp edged tools should be outlawed unless you are qualified...(which would mean NO ONE could use them because the "training" to obtain that "qualification" would be prohibitively expensive.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:41 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:oh I DO understand risk factors....i also understand that the biggest risk in ANY activity is the incompetent who is too stupid to know he/she is incompetent...

SO...why should I suffer because some idiot "darwined" himself by not knowing he was an idiot??

by your argument ALL power tools and sharp edged tools should be outlawed unless you are qualified...(which would mean NO ONE could use them because the "training" to obtain that "qualification" would be prohibitively expensive.

You just proved you do not understand risk factors by claiming something is simple, based on your view and perception, not taking into account for some people it is not simple, the point you miss. Thus if it is not simple for some people it will be a risk.
Common sense is why you should understand, as you are not suffering that again is absurd to understand why some things are censured due to high risks

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:41 pm

you sir are a dictator of the worst kind

I believe in letting people live their own lives...even if doing so involves some "risk"

STOP LIVING....LIVING KILLS...... Rolling Eyes

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:43 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:you sir are a dictator of the worst kind

I believe in letting people live their own lives...even if doing so involves some "risk"

STOP LIVING....LIVING KILLS......

So being safe is now being a dictator, wow another absurd comparison you now equate me to.

So basically your argument is really, me, me, me and not thinking about others.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:44 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:oh I DO understand risk factors....i also understand that the biggest risk in ANY activity is the incompetent who is too stupid to know he/she is incompetent...

SO...why should I suffer because some idiot "darwined" himself by not knowing he was an idiot??

by your argument ALL power tools and sharp edged tools should be outlawed unless you are qualified...(which would mean NO ONE could use them because the "training" to obtain that "qualification" would be prohibitively expensive.

You just proved you do not understand risk factors by claiming something is simple, based on your view and perception, not taking into account for some people it is not simple, the point you miss. Thus if it is not simple for some people it will be a risk.
Common sense is why you should understand, as you are not suffering that again is absurd

Dont be a bigger pillock than you are...of course I'm suffering....if I want any electrical work doing I now have to pay extortionate prices (and i MEAN extortionate) to have some half witted "qualified" sparkie do it.

to understand why some things are censured due to high risks

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:46 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Didge wrote:

You just proved you do not understand risk factors by claiming something is simple, based on your view and perception, not taking into account for some people it is not simple, the point you miss. Thus if it is not simple for some people it will be a risk.
Common sense is why you should understand, as you are not suffering that again is absurd

Dont be a bigger pillock than you are...of course I'm suffering....if I want any electrical work doing I now have to pay extortionate prices (and i MEAN extortionate) to have some half witted "qualified" sparkie do it.

to understand why some things are censured due to high risks
Dont be a bigger pillock than you are...of course I'm suffering....if I want any electrical work doing I now have to pay extortionate prices (and i MEAN extortionate) to have some half witted "qualified" sparkie do it.

You are not suffering, just like anyone else if you wish to learn get the qualification to do so, if you do not want someone else to work on it.
It is that simple, as again it is about you, not giving a fuck about anyone else collectively.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:48 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:you sir are a dictator of the worst kind

I believe in letting people live their own lives...even if doing so involves some "risk"

STOP LIVING....LIVING KILLS......

So being safe is now being a dictator, wow another absurd comparison you now equate me to.

its true...you turn safety from common sense into dictatorship...its something you are very good at, going to idiotic extremes

So basically your argument is really, me, me, me and not thinking about others.

the trouble with "thinking of others is".....those "others" dont compensate me for the costs and trouble of doing so....

why should I care if some over confident idiot does something stupid and fries himself, he's done the world a favour and removed himself and his stupid genes from the pool.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:51 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:
Dont be a bigger pillock than you are...of course I'm suffering....if I want any electrical work doing I now have to pay extortionate prices (and i MEAN extortionate) to have some half witted "qualified" sparkie do it.

You are not suffering, just like anyone else if you wish to learn get the qualification to do so, if you do not want someone else to work on it.
It is that simple,

no its not....tell you what...you stump up the £3000 (approx) that it costs to get the papers....then the £1000 a year for the refreshers

as again it is about you, not giving a fuck about anyone else collectively.

thats because I'm NOT part of the "collective" didge....

by eddie Sat May 31, 2014 7:51 pm

Sorry, I've read through the last few posts and still don't get how watching DIY tips is comparable to watching how a bomb is made??

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:52 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Didge wrote:

So being safe is now being a dictator, wow another absurd comparison you now equate me to.

its true...you turn safety from common sense into dictatorship...its something you are very good at, going to idiotic extremes

So basically your argument is really, me, me, me and not thinking about others.

the trouble with "thinking of others is".....those "others" dont compensate me for the costs and trouble of doing so....

why should I care if some over confident idiot does something stupid and fries himself, he's done the world a favour and removed himself and his stupid genes from the pool.

Again, the me, me, me argument, your view is for yourself not collectively others, because as seen such views on things are taken collectively., not just your view but many and action decided by experts in most cases.

Understand the difference?

As to why you should care, a certain human trait called compassion for others.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 7:53 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Didge wrote:

You are not suffering, just like anyone else if you wish to learn get the qualification to do so, if you do not want someone else to work on it.
It is that simple,

no its not....tell you what...you stump up the £3000 (approx) that it costs to get the papers....then the £1000 a year for the refreshers

as again it is about you, not giving a fuck about anyone else collectively.

thats because I'm NOT part of the "collective" didge....

Really, so you are not English now?

I thought we were as one as a nation, you seem to be separate from that, very interesting

Eddie there is no comparison to DIY and bomb making, it was an absurd exmple

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:42 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:

thats because I'm NOT part of the "collective" didge....

Really, so you are not English now?

I thought we were as one as a nation, you seem to be separate from that, very interesting

Eddie there is no comparison to DIY and bomb making, it was an absurd exmple

you seem to misunderstand me (again) whether deliberately or by lack of intellect i dont know...however

for the avoidance of doubt, the "collective " i am referring to is the collective YOU envisage...mindless opinionless grey amorphous mass tutored only in those skills needed for a given job anything else is subjugated to being educated into "consumers"

Listen you dumb ass....I'd be the first to hold up my hand and say i'm no genius, I cant get beyond 3 dimensional integration/dfferentiation in pure maths....BUT

i can do a sparkies job
a plumbers job
brick lay
I AM a carpenter/joiner
Hell i could build you a house from the ground up single handed if needs be (yeah IT WOULD take time...but hey) INCLUDING felling and planking the trees...even baking the bricks if needed....

and yet...my first choice was microbiology....

SO...if I can do it so can 99% of the (pyhsically fit) population...if they were to apply themselves....

for the 1% who cant....then they genuinely cant because of learing issues...

BUT it isnt that 1% we are protecting they DONT mess with electricity and such..(and in any case regs wouldnt stop them would it)

NO the problem is that large-ish percentage of the population who are wilfully ignorant, who think its good to be "fick" as they say..and yet are then daft enough to try something without finding out how....

sorry....let em fry....

I have compassion for those who are vulnerable and abused
I have compassion for those who suffer

I do not have compassion for wilful idiots....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:46 pm

Hilarious and as seen very upset and all about me me me for Victor, bless him, think he needs a hug.

Argument moot again because you ignore the risk factors and taking your view as more credible than experts, which is also very naive and stupid to be honest but expect no less from you really. Hence why you do not understand the collective view, your views is singular onto yourself.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:50 pm

so what you are saying then is that we should all pay through the nose....because a "few" individuals are to stupid to know they are stupid???

rank idiocy.....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:53 pm

sorry but I dont think thats right...

what you are saying is that I should pay £2000 prat tax to have my house rewired when its needed????

rewire myself..£500
have a sparky £2500

= £2000 prat tax

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:55 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:so what you are saying then is that we should all pay through the nose....because a "few" individuals are to stupid to know they are stupid???

rank idiocy.....

Get a qualification in the trade just like many others do, people like you actually undermine such trades with amateur antics and hence why it is important such trades have qualifications. It seems you also want to place the professionals out of business.
Again you ignore the risk factor, and go off what you see as a small percentage with no evidence to back this view where you now think people are idiots just because they do not understand something you do where they may understand something else that you are ignorant of. It shows you have a poor view of people in general an you may want to work on that, which is why I guess you live by anger arguments based on fear.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 8:57 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:sorry but I dont think thats right...

what you are saying is that I should pay £2000 prat tax to have my house rewired when its needed????

rewire myself..£500
have a sparky £2500

= £2000 prat tax

Under mining peoples trades and lively hoods now again, by now advocating people not get qualified but tackle skilled tasks, that is called being a selfish prat.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:05 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:so what you are saying then is that we should all pay through the nose....because a "few" individuals are to stupid to know they are stupid???

rank idiocy.....

Get a qualification in the trade just like many others do, people like you actually undermine such trades with amateur antics

Bull shit....I can do every bit as good as the "best" going....and I object to paying £3000 to get that (useless) bit of paper...and then £1000 per year

and hence why it is important such trades have qualifications. It seems you also want to place the professionals out of business.

why should I employ a tradesman to do something I am quite capable of doing??? this is "trade unionism in reverse"

Again you ignore the risk factor, and go off what you see as a small percentage with no evidence to back this view where you now think people are idiots just because they do not understand something you do where they may understand something else that you are ignorant of.

Nope...go read again......I have a problem with that % that are "wilfully ignorant"...I.E they could learn it but wont
for instance..a surgeon could doubtless learn to do it...but doesnt see the need...fair does, and I dont blame him...BUT he isnt ALSO so silly as to try doing it...he WILL get a sparky in. and the same applies to nearly everyone......theres just a few who think "fick" and ignorance is great and amusing....and prove it daily....THESE are the ones who are the danger...because they WILL act the twat and wire a torch into the mains or something equally moronic....if only to "see what happens"

It shows you have a poor view of people in general nope, wrong again....only the wilfully ignorantan you may want to work on that, which is why I guess you live by anger arguments based on fear.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:06 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:sorry but I dont think thats right...

what you are saying is that I should pay £2000 prat tax to have my house rewired when its needed????

rewire myself..£500
have a sparky £2500

= £2000 prat tax

Under mining peoples trades and lively hoods now again, by now advocating people not get qualified but tackle skilled tasks, that is called being a selfish prat.

bollocks didge...are you advocating a return to the protectionist "guild" system...

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:14 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:

Bull shit....I can do every bit as good as the "best" going....and I object to paying £3000 to get that (useless) bit of paper...and then £1000 per year
So object, get a life also because such qualifications protect such trade and their workers, showing you though would rather undermine their trades, again being utterly selfish

why should I employ a tradesman to do something I am quite capable of doing??? this is "trade unionism in reverse"
If you want to do it yourself, then do so, but you are bemoan protecting their trade because as seen you wish to undermine it an advocate for many to have access to online information. So if people wish to do their own work, so be it, they should though get qualified, but the argument has turned from your initial point on having access to this information on the web, which undermines the trades industry
Nope...go read again......I have a problem with that % that are "wilfully ignorant"...I.E they could learn it but wont
for instance..a surgeon could doubtless learn to do it...but doesnt see the need...fair does, and I dont blame him...BUT he isnt ALSO so silly as to try doing it...he WILL get a sparky in. and the same applies to nearly everyone......theres just a few who think "fick" and ignorance is great and amusing....and prove it daily....THESE are the ones who are the danger...because they WILL act the twat and wire a torch into the mains or something equally moronic....if only to "see what happens"
Ignorant of that of something you know, does not make them idiots as people and your analogy is also utterly absurd, because would you try open heart surgery based off what you read on the web? It does not make you an idiot that you would be useless at this and would like most people get qualified

nope, wrong again....only the wilfully ignorant[/color]an you may want to work on that, which is why I guess you live by anger arguments based on fear.

So to you if people do not know some things they are idiots full stop thus with using your logic and you are in fact ignorant on many things, would make you also an idiot

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:15 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Didge wrote:

Under mining peoples trades and lively hoods now again, by now advocating people not get qualified but tackle skilled tasks, that is called being a selfish prat.

bollocks didge...are you advocating a return to the protectionist "guild" system...

Not bollocks, as seen you are a selfish prat, those qualifications are there for a reason.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:19 pm

yeah...to make more money...especially for the people who rune niceic and such like....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:24 pm

Bull shit bull shit and more bullshit....

you can tell whern you are on a hiding to nothing didge...

you didnt answer...do you support the "guild system" (which is what you are in effect suggesting)

Also

Nope...go read again......I have a problem with that % that are "wilfully ignorant"...I.E they could learn it but wont
for instance..a surgeon could doubtless learn to do it...but doesnt see the need...fair does, and I dont blame him...BUT he isnt ALSO so silly as to try doing it...he WILL get a sparky in. and the same applies to nearly everyone......theres just a few who think "fick" and ignorance is great and amusing....and prove it daily....THESE are the ones who are the danger...because they WILL act the twat and wire a torch into the mains or something equally moronic....if only to "see what happens"
Ignorant of that of something you know, does not make them idiots as people and your analogy is also utterly absurd, because would you try open heart surgery based off what you read on the web? It does not make you an idiot that you would be useless at this and would like most people get qualified

you again deliberately mis interpret what i said....

I would NOT try open heart surgery...Im not that stupid that i dont know that I couldnt do that,,,,
THATS THE POINT...WILFUL STUPIDITY....
some people know they cant do it...but do it anyway....THEY are the real problem.....

not to mention..."hilarious" LOL....and other didge like sounds......

didge thinks rewiring a house is of the same level of difficulty as open heart surgery....how absurd.....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:33 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:Bull shit bull shit and more bullshit....
yes you spout plenty of it as seen

you can tell whern you are on a hiding to nothing didge...
You mean when you get upset and angry, yes I know when you are losing because you go way off the points and as seen have a selfish view point

you didnt answer...do you support the "guild system" (which is what you are in effect suggesting)
I support certain skilled jobs to require qualifications

Also

Nope...go read again......I have a problem with that % that are "wilfully ignorant"...I.E they could learn it but wont
Why should they need to learn it when we have qualified people to carry out these tasks? I think people have more important things in their lives to get on with.

you again deliberately mis interpret what i said....

I would NOT try open heart surgery...Im not that stupid that i dont know that I couldnt do that,,,,
THATS THE POINT...WILFUL STUPIDITY....
some people know they cant do it...but do it anyway....THEY are the real problem.....
Bravo the apple has at last landed on his head.
"You would not try" Thus many other people will not try as to them it is too complicated as is heart surgery for you. Fuck me I knew you would get their in the end even though you still have not fully grasped it

not to mention..."hilarious" LOL....and other didge like sounds......

didge thinks rewiring a house is of the same level of difficulty as open heart surgery....how absurd.....

Never stated that either Victor, you have not me, I have said people find things difficult and complicated and as seen so do you.
You though are saying that rewiring a house is easy based on you can, which again is absurd., because to many people it would very difficult
So I know you are losing here because your answers get less rational as they go along and how you react as well

Keep your cool and you might come up with something sensible on this., I doubt it though

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:40 pm

no didge...yo are just being an argumentative idiot again...

We ARE NOT talking about those who "would not try"

the problem lies with those who DONT know...dont want to know ...and STILL go ahead and try....
so YOU are not talking about the same thing as I....again

you have done it again....

read something...jumped in both feet first...and utterly missed the point...by answering what YOU thought the person was talking about rather that what they plainly were....

why would....anyone tackle a job they have no knowledge to do???
and conversely

why should anyone HAVE to employ someone to do a job they CAN do....

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:45 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:no didge...yo are just being an argumentative idiot again...
Incorrect, you advocate ignoring risk factors

We ARE NOT talking about those who "would not try"
Who is to say they will not try?
That is the point, nobody can know who will try hence why there is a qualification requirement, the point you miss

the problem lies with those who DONT know...dont want to know ...and STILL go ahead and try....
so YOU are not talking about the same thing as I....again
I am talking about the same, you though keep changing as your arguments are shown to lack validity.

you have done it again....

read something...jumped in both feet first...and utterly missed the point...by answering what YOU thought the person was talking about rather that what they plainly were....
As seen missed nothing, it was you that misses the point as to why

why would....anyone tackle a job they have no knowledge to do???
and conversely
Many people do which is the problem, hence why such skills require qualifications

why should anyone HAVE to employ someone to do a job they CAN do....

But can you do it properly? You claim you can, but most people if they had hired you would like you to certify you have done it correctly, so how would you do that for them?

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:53 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:no didge...yo are just being an argumentative idiot again...
Incorrect, you advocate ignoring risk factors

We ARE NOT talking about those who "would not try"
Who is to say they will not try?
That is the point, nobody can know who will try hence why there is a qualification requirement, the point you miss

the problem lies with those who DONT know...dont want to know ...and STILL go ahead and try....
so YOU are not talking about the same thing as I....again
I am talking about the same, you though keep changing as your arguments are shown to lack validity.

you have done it again....

read something...jumped in both feet first...and utterly missed the point...by answering what YOU thought the person was talking about rather that what they plainly were....
As seen missed nothing, it was you that misses the point as to why

why would....anyone tackle a job they have no knowledge to do???
and conversely
Many people do which is the problem, hence why such skills require qualifications

why should anyone HAVE to employ someone to do a job they CAN do....

But can you do it properly? You claim you can, but most people if they had hired you would like you to certify you have done it correctly, so how would you do that for them?

I dont want to do if for bloody hire.....I want to rewire my house....fgs...(well actually I dont...since I did it anyway.....before part P came into being ::D:: (3 days before actually ://?roflmao?/: )

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 9:55 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Didge wrote:

But can you do it properly? You claim you can, but most people if they had hired you would like you to certify you have done it correctly, so how would you do that for them?

I dont want to do if for bloody hire.....I want to rewire my house....fgs...(well actually I dont...since I did it anyway.....before part P came into being ::D:: (3 days before actually ://?roflmao?/: )

Good for you and am sure you did a good job which no doubt your genes are more suited to these types of skills. Thus you hold skills that can do a variety of similar skilled tasks, which as you know not many people actually have, which goes more in favour of my point

::D::

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:02 pm

and YES i can do (and did) it properly....like i said its NOT rocket science...its only 3 wires in a cable,,,,

as we USED to say....before the EU stuck its interfering nose into things....

"red to red, black to black
connect together and stand well back"
or as we used to say to the apprentices (or your little brother if it was him helping out....

just hold these two wires, whilst I nip upstairs with the megger....bzzz

Usually followed by outraged squeals of anger.....

quite harmless...but....somehow...shocking.......

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:03 pm

Still not getting the point Victor.

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:13 pm

You have seen the photos of my kitchen havnt you didge???

well i did EVERYTHING in there

took out a redundant studding wall
leveled and tiled the floor
the wireing
the gas (strangly enough thats legal...to do YOUR OWN gas work)
the water
remade part of the wall where a door was removed
replastered the walls
tiled the walls
installed the air con unit (what a feckin job THAT WAS, sheer graft)
the only thing I didnt do was replaster the ceiling...thats a job for a young 'un, my back wouldnt take it any more
then made from scratch and installed the kitchen units

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:18 pm

Victor as stated I am very impressed by your skills

by Guest Sat May 31, 2014 10:24 pm

well lets look at this

we are I think both agreed that, regardless of what other skills and abilities some one may have, there are those who, for one reason or another, should NOT be allowed anywhere near a screwdriver....let alone 240 volts.. affraid

Most of those people actually know this...and tend to avoid it like the plague...(I have a footballer friend...who wont even reset the trips if they go in his "fuse box" Rolling Eyes

)

Some however are too dumb to know they "dont know"...should we worry if they get fried.....surely encouraging their survival is retrogressive as far as evolution is concerned.....

by Irn Bru Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:21 am

I started this thread believing that there would be widespread condemnation of the bombers but so far not a peep.

Must be something different about these bombers I suppose.

by Cass Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:23 am

Irn Bru wrote:I started this thread believing that there would be widespread condemnation of the bombers but so far not a peep.

Must be something different about these bombers I suppose.

its horrifying ....they just wont stop. why did they let Adams go? I suppose it would kick off big time again

I agree with eds - you tube should take down shit like this.

the anarchist cookbook is also still available ....I'm not one normally for censorship but sometimes you have to think of the greater good.

by Ben Reilly Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:15 am

victorisnotamused wrote:well lets look at this

we are I think both agreed that, regardless of what other skills and abilities some one may have, there are those who, for one reason or another, should NOT be allowed anywhere near a screwdriver....let alone 240 volts..

Most of those people actually know this...and tend to avoid it like the plague...(I have a footballer friend...who wont even reset the trips if they go in his "fuse box" )

Some however are too dumb to know they "dont know"...should we worry if they get fried.....surely encouraging their survival is retrogressive as far as evolution is concerned.....

I once hung something on my cubicle wall that wasn't perfectly level, and a co-worker told me that "some people just shouldn't be allowed to handle tools." He was a prime asshole all right.

by Guest Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:51 am

victorisnotamused wrote:I wouldnt worry, according to didge its diffcult to obtain the chemicals to make explosives ://?roflmao?/:

Yes apparently there is a worldwide ban on all weaponry that prevents naughty would be terrorist and criminals from gaining access to them

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