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Post by gerber Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:38 pm

Sharia punishments will include severing of limbs for theft and death by stoning for adulterers and
will be introduced over a period of three years.

The death penalty, including by stoning, will be introduced in the final phase a year later for offences including adultery, sodomy and insulting the Koran or the Prophet Muhammad.
Most of the laws will also apply to non-Muslims.
That raises concern among Western workers in the oil sector and tens of thousands of ethnic Chinese Bruneians and 30,000 mostly Roman Catholic Filipino migrant workers.
About 20 per cent of residents are non-Muslim, including substantial Buddhist and Christian
communities.


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I suppose if you don't like the new laws you can leave the country, so why do in the UK pander to those that are unhappy with our Christian life style.
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:48 pm

Oh dear - strange how the left say Hitlers rule was evil yet they trumpet this behaviour so much.

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Post by harrymuffin Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:11 pm

I'm afraid this is just the beginning.
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Post by gerber Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:33 pm

harrymuffin wrote:I'm afraid this is just the beginning.  

Why do I fear you are so right.
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:42 pm

gerber wrote:
harrymuffin wrote:I'm afraid this is just the beginning.  

Why do I fear you are so right.

Snap. But best not mention it, that's racist. I find it ridiculous on here that most jump on any perceived insult to any 'minority', yet the threat to and abuse of women's rights are totally ignored, not to mention the sheer barbarity of this return to the dark ages.

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:51 pm

Tesstacious wrote:
gerber wrote:

Why do I fear you are so right.

Snap.  But best not mention it, that's racist.  I find it ridiculous on here that most jump on any perceived insult to any 'minority', yet the threat to and abuse of women's rights are totally ignored, not to mention the sheer barbarity of this return to the dark ages.


Unless a UKIP member, person, voter says women would be better off at home looking after the house and children like the good old days - they'd be screaming women's rights then, right?

Poor saps seem so mixed up.

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Post by gerber Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:39 pm

A huge outcry from all over re Uganda and the gay movement, but as it is mainly going to involve the lesser sex it seems to be OK and not many are unduly worried....



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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:40 pm

What's that?????

Speak up speak im deafened by the silence from the left

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:07 pm

gerber wrote:Sharia punishments will include severing of limbs for theft and death by stoning for adulterers and
will be introduced over a period of three years.

The death penalty, including by stoning, will be introduced in the final phase a year later for offences including adultery, sodomy and insulting the Koran or the Prophet Muhammad.
Most of the laws will also apply to non-Muslims.
That raises concern among Western workers in the oil sector and tens of thousands of ethnic Chinese Bruneians and 30,000 mostly Roman Catholic Filipino migrant workers.
About 20 per cent of residents are non-Muslim, including substantial Buddhist and Christian
communities.


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I suppose if you don't like the new laws you can leave the country, so why do in the UK pander to those that are unhappy with our Christian life style.


It is a complete step backwards and completely condemn this action as I do the death penalty anyway anywhere in the world. To me you make people suffer crimes by living a long life in paying for their crime, death is too easy an option and is still as expensive with awaiting appeals.
Seems though this is more a measure out of fear that the nation is seeing its resources dwindle fast:


Critics say the new penal code will give authorities expanded powers to stifle dissent at a time when
palace officials are concerned about dwindling energy reserves.
'A common concern among the palace elite is that the gas is going to run out. The population's loyalty has been bought with gas money,' said Maung Zarni, a visiting fellow at the London School of Economics who quit the Darussalam Brunei University in 2013 over what he said was a lack of academic freedom.


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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:49 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:What's that?????

Speak up speak im deafened by the silence from the left

Smelly you won't get much of a response from the left wingers or even the Tory left wingers on here.

If Muslims are doing it then they will support it,no matter what.

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:38 pm

drip
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islamisation creeps slowly onward....

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:42 pm

Ahem:

SHARIA IS
OPPRESSIVE
AND WRONG
IT ABUSES
HUMAN RIGHTS
AND I THINK
IT'S A BAD THING


Happy?
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:54 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Ahem:

SHARIA IS
OPPRESSIVE
AND WRONG
IT ABUSES
HUMAN RIGHTS
AND I THINK
IT'S A BAD THING


Happy?

but, of course...its "only a few"

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:58 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Ahem:

SHARIA IS
OPPRESSIVE
AND WRONG
IT ABUSES
HUMAN RIGHTS
AND I THINK
IT'S A BAD THING


Happy?

but, of course...its "only a few"



Interesting how many form a government/authoritarian dictatoship or nations that hold this view on sharia?

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:00 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Ahem:

SHARIA IS
OPPRESSIVE
AND WRONG
IT ABUSES
HUMAN RIGHTS
AND I THINK
IT'S A BAD THING


Happy?

but, of course...its "only a few"

As always, the answers aren't simple:

The percentage of Muslims who say they want sharia to be “the official law of the land” varies widely around the world, from fewer than one-in-ten in Azerbaijan (8%) to near unanimity in Afghanistan (99%). But solid majorities in most of the countries surveyed across the Middle East and North Africa, sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia and Southeast Asia favor the establishment of sharia, including 71% of Muslims in Nigeria, 72% in Indonesia, 74% in Egypt and 89% in the Palestinian territories.

At the same time, the survey finds that even in many countries where there is strong backing for sharia, most Muslims favor religious freedom for people of other faiths. In Pakistan, for example, three-quarters of Muslims say that non-Muslims are very free to practice their religion, and fully 96% of those who share this assessment say it is “a good thing.” Yet 84% of Pakistani Muslims favor enshrining sharia as official law. These seemingly divergent views are possible partly because most supporters of sharia in Pakistan – as in many other countries – think Islamic law should apply only to Muslims. Moreover, Muslims around the globe have differing understandings of what sharia means in practice.

The survey – which involved more than 38,000 face-to-face interviews in 80-plus languages with Muslims across Europe, Asia, the Middle East and Africa – shows that Muslims tend to be most comfortable with using sharia in the domestic sphere, to settle family or property disputes. In most countries surveyed, there is considerably less support for severe punishments, such as cutting off the hands of thieves or executing people who convert from Islam to another faith. And even in the domestic sphere, Muslims differ widely on such questions as whether polygamy, divorce and family planning are morally acceptable and whether daughters should be able to receive the same inheritance as sons.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-Muslims-religion-politics-society-exec/
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Post by Irn Bru Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:17 pm

The international community have the means to sort this out if they had the will to do so. Stop flogging them military and communications equipment and freeze his assets that he holds in London for a start.

This guy is treated like royalty because he's loaded.

See what I mean...

At the Queen's Jubilee celebrations...

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Post by Irn Bru Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:22 pm

Stephen Fry boycotts Brunei-owned hotel chain The Dorchester Collection after country passes ‘stone the gays’ law

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-boycotts-bruneiowned-hotel-chain-the-dorchester-collection-after-country-pass-stone-the-gays-law-9296744.html

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:26 pm

What a disgrace adopting such laws, wtf can't the United Nations or some other organisation Intervene?


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Post by Irn Bru Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:29 pm

They certainly could JD but money talks.
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:39 pm

why should they...after all...its "only a few"

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Post by gerber Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:43 pm

Irn Bru wrote:They certainly could JD but money talks.

But if all the Westerners who are involved within the oil industry leave and the Sultans hotels are boycotted, never mind his horse involvement in Newmarket maybe a game change plan could evolve.

An always hopeful and nice thinking Gerbs...

He wants western style life for himself but not for his people......... Gdaffi and Saddam countries were invaded on less.....
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Post by Irn Bru Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:45 pm

gerber wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:They certainly could JD but money talks.

But if all the Westerners who are involved within the oil industry leave and the Sultans hotels are boycotted, never mind his horse involvement in Newmarket maybe a game change plan could evolve.

An always hopeful and nice thinking Gerbs...

He wants western style life for himself but not for his people.........  Gdaffi and Saddam countries were invaded on less.....

Quite right Gerbs. It isn't difficult is it?
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:48 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Ahem:

SHARIA IS
OPPRESSIVE
AND WRONG
IT ABUSES
HUMAN RIGHTS
AND I THINK
IT'S A BAD THING


Happy?

You are aware that sharia is based on Islamic doctrine and dogma???

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:50 pm

Joy Division wrote:What a disgrace adopting such laws, wtf can't the United Nations or some other organisation Intervene?


Are you aware that Iran is sitting in the UNs women equality commission

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:51 pm

Irn Bru wrote:They certainly could JD but money talks.


Aye money Irn eh, even more shocking.

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:59 pm

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Joy Division wrote:What a disgrace adopting such laws, wtf can't the United Nations or some other organisation Intervene?


Are you aware that Iran is sitting in the UNs women equality commission


I heard a snippet of that weeks ago on the Telly Smelly!...

Wtf! What a Face 

These Iranian women will most likely have a passion for their job role though, being used to living oppressed and where people ares till regularly put to death and where sometimes women are blamed for earthquakes!!

smelly, I know some of these countries are barbaric bastards, I don't agree with many of theses cruel acts they inflict on their people.

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:04 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Ahem:

SHARIA IS
OPPRESSIVE
AND WRONG
IT ABUSES
HUMAN RIGHTS
AND I THINK
IT'S A BAD THING


Happy?

You are aware that sharia is based on Islamic doctrine and dogma???

I'm an atheist, what the hell makes you think I agree with Islamic doctrine and dogma? Of course, not all Muslims follow Sharia just like not all Christians follow the Bible. You're just trying to make complex issues simple, once again.
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Post by gerber Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:12 pm

Joy Division wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

Are you aware that Iran is sitting in the UNs women equality commission


I heard a snippet of that weeks ago on the Telly Smelly!...

Wtf! What a Face 

These Iranian women will most likely have a passion for their job role though, being used to living oppressed and where people ares till regularly put to death and where sometimes women are blamed for earthquakes!!

smelly, I know some of these countries are barbaric bastards, I don't agree with many of theses cruel acts they inflict on their people.

JD it is spreading across continents because we in the west are allowing it to happen. We are so unsure and will not upset the die hard Islamists due to threats and we must be all encompassing to all.....They are slowly but surely catching monkey.

We in the west have let them do it. In the UK we cannot say boo ! Christmas is banned, the Union flag is banned, halal meat is served in schools even Subway have succumbed.........

The every day Muslim in the UK is not of that thinking but the extremists rule and the gentle we are one of you guys suffers.

Sharia Law was introduced into the UK by Jack Straw liebour Home sec......

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:19 pm

gerber wrote:
Joy Division wrote:


I heard a snippet of that weeks ago on the Telly Smelly!...

Wtf! What a Face 

These Iranian women will most likely have a passion for their job role though, being used to living oppressed and where people ares till regularly put to death and where sometimes women are blamed for earthquakes!!

smelly, I know some of these countries are barbaric bastards, I don't agree with many of theses cruel acts they inflict on their people.

JD it is spreading across continents because we in the west are allowing it to happen.  We are so unsure and will not upset the die hard Islamists due to threats and we must be all encompassing to all.....They are slowly but surely catching monkey.

We in the west have let them do it.  In the UK we cannot say boo ! Christmas is banned, the Union flag is banned, halal meat is served in schools even Subway have succumbed.........

The every day Muslim in the UK is not of that thinking but the extremists rule and the gentle we are one of you guys suffers.

Sharia Law was introduced into the UK by Jack Straw liebour Home sec......


Yeah Gerbs but Britain does not permit any violence or killing!!, it's more to do with divorces etc..

I don't agree about Halal meat being served in our schools.

But we still have our union flag and Christmas !Smile

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Post by gerber Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:32 pm

Joy Division wrote:
gerber wrote:

JD it is spreading across continents because we in the west are allowing it to happen.  We are so unsure and will not upset the die hard Islamists due to threats and we must be all encompassing to all.....They are slowly but surely catching monkey.

We in the west have let them do it.  In the UK we cannot say boo ! Christmas is banned, the Union flag is banned, halal meat is served in schools even Subway have succumbed.........

The every day Muslim in the UK is not of that thinking but the extremists rule and the gentle we are one of you guys suffers.

Sharia Law was introduced into the UK by Jack Straw liebour Home sec......


Yeah Gerbs but Britain does not permit any violence or killing!!, it's more to do with divorces etc..

I don't agree about Halal meat being served in our schools.

But we still have our union flag and Christmas !Smile

" In Nottingham, the Greenwood Primary School cancelled a Christmas nativity play because it interfered with the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha. In Scarborough, the Yorkshire Coast College removed the words Christmas and Easter from their calendar not to offend Muslims. In Scotland, the Tayside Police Department apologized for featuring a German shepherd puppy as part of a campaign to publicize its new non-emergency telephone number. The postcards are potentially offensive to the city's 3,000-strong Muslim community: Islamic legal tradition says that dogs are impure.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3024/britain-Muslim-cultural-sensitivity

There are many more wonderful examples of how we are told to behave...... on the site.
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Post by veya_victaous Thu May 01, 2014 1:06 am

also it is a tiny nation with less than half a million people but has a very good Human rights and Development Index.

Brunei is ranked fifth in the world by gross domestic product per capita at purchasing power parity. The IMF estimated in 2011 that Brunei was one of two countries (the other being Libya) with a public debt at 0% of the national GDP

It is the only sovereign state completely on the island of Borneo; the remainder of the island's territory is divided between the nations of Malaysia and Indonesia.

a tiny wedged of island between Malaysia with 30 million people and Indonesia with 230 million people
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Post by veya_victaous Thu May 01, 2014 1:15 am

gerber wrote:
Joy Division wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

Are you aware that Iran is sitting in the UNs women equality commission


I heard a snippet of that weeks ago on the Telly Smelly!...

Wtf! What a Face 

These Iranian women will most likely have a passion for their job role though, being used to living oppressed and where people ares till regularly put to death and where sometimes women are blamed for earthquakes!!

smelly, I know some of these countries are barbaric bastards, I don't agree with many of theses cruel acts they inflict on their people.

JD it is spreading across continents because we in the west are allowing it to happen.  We are so unsure and will not upset the die hard Islamists due to threats and we must be all encompassing to all.....They are slowly but surely catching monkey.

We in the west have let them do it.  In the UK we cannot say boo ! Christmas is banned, the Union flag is banned, halal meat is served in schools even Subway have succumbed.........

The every day Muslim in the UK is not of that thinking but the extremists rule and the gentle we are one of you guys suffers.

Sharia Law was introduced into the UK by Jack Straw liebour Home sec......


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250096/You-wouldnt-believe-atheism-worlds-biggest-faith-Christianity-Islam.html

People with no religious affiliation now make up the third-largest global group in a new study of the world's faiths - coming after Christians and Muslims but just before Hindus.

The study, based on extensive data for the year 2010, also showed Islam and Hinduism are the faiths most likely to expand in the future while Judaism has the weakest growth prospects.

It showed Christianity is the most evenly spread religion, present in all regions of the world, while Hinduism is the least global with 94 per cent of its population in one country, India.


Considering Atheist hardly existed 100 years ago, I don't think we are losing
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Post by Eilzel Thu May 01, 2014 7:51 am

gerber wrote:Sharia punishments will include severing of limbs for theft and death by stoning for adulterers and
will be introduced over a period of three years.

The death penalty, including by stoning, will be introduced in the final phase a year later for offences including adultery, sodomy and insulting the Koran or the Prophet Muhammad.
Most of the laws will also apply to non-Muslims.
That raises concern among Western workers in the oil sector and tens of thousands of ethnic Chinese Bruneians and 30,000 mostly Roman Catholic Filipino migrant workers.
About 20 per cent of residents are non-Muslim, including substantial Buddhist and Christian
communities.


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I suppose if you don't like the new laws you can leave the country, so why do in the UK pander to those that are unhappy with our Christian life style.

What? And why should they have to? Should Alan Turing have just left the UK in the 1940s? Like every other backward country that criminalizes homosexuality and uses stoning to death as a punishment Brunei should be roundly condemned and pressure to put on to remove this disgraceful laws.
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You are aware that sharia is based on Islamic doctrine and dogma???

I'm an atheist, what the hell makes you think I agree with Islamic doctrine and dogma? Of course, not all Muslims follow Sharia just like not all Christians follow the Bible. You're just trying to make complex issues simple, once again.

Nope

Just trying to waft away the stench of hypocrisy

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