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Post by Guest Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:55 pm

Narendra Modi: Britain can't simply shrug off this Hindu extremist
The UK will also suffer if India elects this far-right activist. We must sever our links with him

Imagine this. A pogrom takes place in a foreign country targeting a minority group, say Christians, with hundreds brutally killed by rampaging mobs, many mutilated and raped, and foetuses removed from pregnant women. Thousands flee destroyed homes. The provincial leader on whose watch these events take place is a politician with open links to extremist Islamist organisations. Three holidaying British citizens are among the massacred. Allegations emerge that this politician's language helped foment the massacres. With one of his cabinet jailed for her role in the pogroms he becomes the frontrunner to lead this increasingly powerful country. Would you worry?

Yes, is the likely answer, and so you should. In reality, the country is India, the extremists are Hindus, the 2002 Gujarat pogroms targeted Muslims, and the leader in question is Narendra Modi. As the candidate of the far-right Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), in current elections he does not dispute his or its links to the extremist Hindu network known as the Sangh Parivar.

Modi was a leading activist for its secretive and militaristic arm, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) – whose founder expressed admiration for Hitler, ideologies of racial purity and the virtues of fascism. It is an organisation that, on a good day, looks like the British National party but can operate more like Nazi militias. Known for an authoritarian leadership style, Modi's only expression of regret for the pogroms compared them to a car running over a puppy, while he labelled Muslim relief camps "baby-making factories".

Hindu extremism is rooted in a macho 20th-century response to British colonialism which mocked Hindu "effeminacy". It is rarely scrutinised in the west, partly because Hinduism is stereotyped as gentle and non-violent in the image of Gandhi – who, ironically, was assassinated by an RSS activist – and benefits from the disproportionate attention given to Islamist violence, which enables other pernicious extremisms to slip under the radar.

For all its anti-British rhetoric, Hindu nationalism played no significant role in either the freedom struggle or in creating the secular constitution of independent India. But over recent decades, the notion of Hindutva (Hindu-ness) has grown in force along with the unfettered capitalism it espouses: it is responsible for vicious attacks on Christians, murdering missionaries and calling for Muslims to choose between Pakistan and the graveyard. And any victory for a proponent of a nuclearised Hindu India where homosexuality remains criminalised will have consequences that will be felt well beyond the subcontinent, not least in multicultural Britain.

The Gujarat pogroms took place after an unexplained fire on a train, which killed Hindu activists and was swiftly attributed by Modi to Islamic forces and Pakistan. Allegations remain that he deliberately prevented authorities from intervening. Contrary to claims, India's supreme court has not issued him a "clean chit" but criticised him as a "modern-day Nero".

Modi's moral culpability was recognised by both Britain and the US in denying him a travel visa for several years. Britain has also been attempting, without success, to get justice for the three Britons – Saeed and Sakil Dawood, and Mohammed Aswat – who were chased, cornered and brutally killed, their bodies burned beyond recognition. Now, disgracefully, trumped by British corporate interests in India, many owned by British Indians, governmental links with Modi have been re-established. This rehabilitation is the result of hard lobbying by some Hindutva-friendly politicians and the many front organisations that operate in Britain. We are urged to focus on corporate-friendly Modi, the pogroms being a little mishap to be shrugged off.

We should note with concern that some charitable funds raised in Britain, including for the 2001 Gujarat earthquake, went to charities run by Hindu extremists who systematically foment hate. So too must we care about the "saffron pound" sent by long-distance Hindu "patriots" to fund extremism. But investigating Britain's Hindu zealots doesn't have the same political currency as pronouncements about getting "tough" on Islamic extremism.

A Modi victory will strengthen the arm of chauvinist forces in Britain, which have already had successes such as shutting down exhibitions, quashing caste discrimination laws, and withdrawing Royal Mail stamps. Under Modi there will be no progress on Kashmir, which will also have far-reaching violent consequences. In the face of a global resurgence of the right we must be alert to all its extremist forms. Britons committed to anti-fascism must not allow their country to abdicate morality.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/14/narendra-modi-extremism-india

Had only read a little about this. Not good.

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Post by eddie Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:57 pm

I always had Hinduism down as a very peaceful religion in the main. I know there's obviously good and bad etc but they're normally such tame people.
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Post by Guest Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:58 pm

Well, it appears they are the group that assassinated Ghandi, so they have been around for a while.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:51 pm

Rather have a million of him than one OBL

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:53 pm

Yep, but you're a psychopath so that's not surprising. Normal people wouldn't want either.

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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:05 pm

I swear, if smelly got mugged by a Christian he'd just be happy it wasn't a Muslim.
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Post by Guest Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:07 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:I swear, if smelly got mugged by a Christian he'd just be happy it wasn't a Muslim.

 Twisted Evil Twisted Evil ::smthg:: ::smthg:: ::smthg:: 

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Post by Eilzel Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:13 pm

eddie wrote:I always had Hinduism down as a very peaceful religion in the main. I know there's obviously good and bad etc but they're normally such tame people.

Well there's no reason for you to think Hindus are trouble outside of India and Sri Lanka- but the Tamil Tigers, who commit acts of terrorism in Sri Lanka, are mostly Hindu. As Sass has said it was very much a Hindu nationalist who assassinated Gandhi. And Hindus have been involved in sectarian violence in India ever since decolonization; often the instigators.

The problem with religion is it is very often intertwined with nationalism which makes every religion potentially a violent religion.
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Post by eddie Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:08 am

Eilzel wrote:
eddie wrote:I always had Hinduism down as a very peaceful religion in the main. I know there's obviously good and bad etc but they're normally such tame people.

Well there's no reason for you to think Hindus are trouble outside of India and Sri Lanka- but the Tamil Tigers, who commit acts of terrorism in Sri Lanka, are mostly Hindu. As Sass has said it was very much a Hindu nationalist who assassinated Gandhi. And Hindus have been involved in sectarian violence in India ever since decolonization; often the instigators.

The problem with religion is it is very often intertwined with nationalism which makes every religion potentially a violent religion.

I guess you're right. Like I said, good and bad in every walk of life.
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Post by veya_victaous Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:33 am

eddie wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
eddie wrote:I always had Hinduism down as a very peaceful religion in the main. I know there's obviously good and bad etc but they're normally such tame people.

Well there's no reason for you to think Hindus are trouble outside of India and Sri Lanka- but the Tamil Tigers, who commit acts of terrorism in Sri Lanka, are mostly Hindu. As Sass has said it was very much a Hindu nationalist who assassinated Gandhi. And Hindus have been involved in sectarian violence in India ever since decolonization; often the instigators.

The problem with religion is it is very often intertwined with nationalism which makes every religion potentially a violent religion.

I guess you're right. Like I said, good and bad in every walk of life.

Hinduism is complex, a follower of Buddha (elevated to god status in Hinduism) will behave differently than one who follows Shiva or Vishnu but all are Hindu.

Also the Muslims invaded Just before the British, in fact the British got their foot in by allying with the Maharajah against Mysore(city conquered by Muslims)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Mysore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Mysore_wars
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:47 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:I swear, if smelly got mugged by a Christian he'd just be happy it wasn't a Muslim.

i am unlikely to be mugged since i don't live in an area with high concentration of ethnics

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