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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:09 am

First topic message reminder :

Hi folks, I want to introduce a new forum policy..I don't want to sound too quick off the mark as I'm just in the admin door, but the new policy will be a 3 strikes policy.

It's something myself and other staff and members feel strongly about , that would be racism and picking on the unemployed, some of the stuff I see is a nonsense ...and when these issues are discussed, some paint all others on benefits as being scrounges.

This along with blaming coloured folk and immigrants for all our country's troubles really annoys me,i don't want such hatred on theses boards.

From tomorrow anyone making any more ridicules claims will be give a strike for every one post made slandering , insulting and making libel against other people who may be coloured , an immigrant or folk on benefits will receive a maximum of 3 strikes and they are out.

Once they get to 3 strikes they shall be subject to sanctions..that being a 24 hour ban.

I know it's a bit early to dish out forum rules, but they are there for a reason,

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:05 am

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I never said that, for heavens' sake , some are trying to turn this into something else, I'm just here to help out if need be, to nice of Ben to ask me.

I'll still be the lovely JD we all know! Laughing 
you have done enough crawling up his arse so you must have expected it  ::happ::

Hasn't he just?

I do hope that he'll clamp down on some of Ben's anti-Christian posts.
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:21 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
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you have done enough crawling up his arse so you must have expected it  ::happ::

Hasn't he just?

I do hope that he'll clamp down on some of Ben's anti-Christian posts.
doubt it Christian topics will be banned no doubt soon

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:26 am

VOD(original) wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Hasn't he just?

I do hope that he'll clamp down on some of Ben's anti-Christian posts.
doubt it Christian topics will be banned no doubt soon


If they don't involve racism or homophobia then all is fine with God VOD Smile

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:29 am

Joy Division wrote:
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Hmmm.  Michael Jackson was a freak who was probably also a paedo. Barack Obama's a complete tosser who couldn't organise a kids' birthday party at MacDonalds.

That's two strikes....   Suspect


While your somewhat a back up singer for BA Tess...you don't quite sing his tune ...so you still have your three strikes Smile
Just pointing out the flaw in your wording JD - you should have said posters who insult people just because they're 'of colour' (is that the new pc expression?) - not who insult people who happened to be of colour - that would mean you couldn't insult, say, a mass murderer or child killer who was black... sorry I can't help being pedantic, force of habit.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:31 am

Joy Division wrote:
VOD(original) wrote:
doubt it Christian topics will be banned no doubt soon


If they don't involve  racism or homophobia then all is fine with God VOD Smile
so you mean i can't say Christianity and the bible  don't agree with homosexuality 

is this right ?????

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Post by Eilzel Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:49 am

Ok I think a lot of people are getting their knickers in a twist a bit TOO much over this. No one has yet been banned or even earned; it isn't actually denying anyone the right to express an opinion at all, just checking how they express it. We haven't heard anything from Ben yet, and veya says he'll oppose bans which sort of undermines the whole thing.

No one is asking for a forum where we all agree, nor will anyone be banned for saying the Bible doesn't agree with homosexuality, those assertions are ridiculous.

People can disagree amicably, as I do with BA, Tess and even Eds often enough. That said I still don't think this is a well thought out move, and is open to abuse- I don't want to see ANY current posters banned Sad
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Post by nicko Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:57 am

a good post les.
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:21 pm

Eilzel wrote:Ok I think a lot of people are getting their knickers in a twist a bit TOO much over this. No one has yet been banned or even earned; it isn't actually denying anyone the right to express an opinion at all, just checking how they express it. We haven't heard anything from Ben yet, and veya says he'll oppose bans which sort of undermines the whole thing.

No one is asking for a forum where we all agree, nor will anyone be banned for saying the Bible doesn't agree with homosexuality, those assertions are ridiculous.

People can disagree amicably, as I do with BA, Tess and even Eds often enough. That said I still don't think this is a well thought out move, and is open to abuse- I don't want to see ANY current posters banned Sad


I'm sure that won't happen Eilzel, only if a poster persists on misrepresenting facts and twisting them, like as in when BA and one or two others make ridiculous claims that in general people on benefits are scrounges , or that Muslims , blacks and immigrants are so who responsible for all the UK' s woes...that kind of thing.

It would be much better if we can all act like the adults we are not have to alter misleading thread titles...

I agree with you Eilzel...but I'm sure those who debate in this manner will be adult enough not to try to keep manipulating and changing info from links to suit their own agenda before posting them here!Smile

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Post by Eilzel Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:57 pm

If BA does that then restrict him from editting thread titles after a mod alters them. I see this as a longwinded of way ultimately banning posters like BA; and much as we may disagree I wouldn't want him gone.
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:11 pm

Eilzel wrote:If BA does that then restrict him from editting thread titles after a mod alters them. I see this as a longwinded of way ultimately banning posters like BA; and much as we may disagree I wouldn't want him gone.


Ah no...me neither Eilzel, I've had a few wee giggles with BA! but yes...anyone trying to alter thread titles which twist the truth in some serious issues will face the wrath of Ben!! Laughing


Nobody is going anywhere unless they are seriously either stupid or stubborn!

We are one big happy family here!Smile Laughing 

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:36 pm

Look it is a simply process to stop people editing thread titles - and that is all that is needed.

No need to post about three strikes or possible bans or anything like that.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:40 pm

sphinx wrote:Look it is a simply process to stop people editing thread titles - and that is all that is needed.

No need to post about three strikes or possible bans or anything like that.


Your quite right Sphinx,,,but the three strikes still stands, the line must be drawn somewhere.Smile

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:41 pm

Announcement on behalf of Ben...

From tomorrow there will be no religious thread , nor any discussion of religion whatsoever , we often find it leads to scaremongering, inaccuracies , chaos and lies...

Sadly religion is also used to spew hatred toward non religious people or people of another religion.
This is not my decision, it has only been passed on to me to post.



Thank you.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:00 pm

Oh dear, some won't be happy. Religion can be quite interesting JD.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:03 pm

I think, once you've implemented your new rules, it would be a good idea to change the title of the forum from Newsfix to Newspeak...

Newspeak is the fictional language in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, written by George Orwell. It is a controlled language created by the totalitarian state as a tool to limit freedom of thought, and concepts that pose a threat to the regime such as freedom, self-expression, individuality, peace, etc. Any form of thought alternative to the party’s construct is classified as "thoughtcrime."

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:06 pm

Joy Division wrote:Announcement on behalf of Ben...

From tomorrow there will be no religious thread , nor any discussion of religion whatsoever , we often find it leads to scaremongering, inaccuracies , chaos and lies...

Sadly religion is also used to spew hatred toward non religious people or people of another religion.
This is not my decision, it has only been passed on to me to post.



Thank you.
Absolutely no problem with this , i am very happy i made my peace with sassy and she accepted my apology and that is something that i am grateful for by being a member of this forum for a chance to do that ,but i will be deleting my account and looking for another forum which has freedom of speech . 

Good luck with the forum Ben before long you won't have anything to debate .

good bye

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:07 pm

Tesstacious wrote:I think, once you've implemented your new rules, it would be a good idea to change the title of the forum from Newsfix to Newspeak...

Newspeak is the fictional language in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, written by George Orwell. It is a controlled language created by the totalitarian state as a tool to limit freedom of thought, and concepts that pose a threat to the regime such as freedom, self-expression, individuality, peace, etc. Any form of thought alternative to the party’s construct is classified as "thoughtcrime."

 Laughing 

But that's the thing Tess, free speech is a great thing, sadly some abuse it by way of verbal racial hatred, which if one was shouting racist remarks on the night street, they would be carted off to the local nick!

Of course myself , Ben and the other mods want free speech, but some just can't be trusted with this ' free speech' sadly. Sad

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:12 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Tesstacious wrote:I think, once you've implemented your new rules, it would be a good idea to change the title of the forum from Newsfix to Newspeak...

Newspeak is the fictional language in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, written by George Orwell. It is a controlled language created by the totalitarian state as a tool to limit freedom of thought, and concepts that pose a threat to the regime such as freedom, self-expression, individuality, peace, etc. Any form of thought alternative to the party’s construct is classified as "thoughtcrime."

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But that's the thing Tess, free speech is a great thing, sadly some abuse it by way of verbal racial hatred, which if one was shouting racist remarks on the night street, they would be carted off to the local nick!

Of course myself , Ben and the other mods want free speech, but some just can't be trusted with this ' free speech' sadly. Sad

Its immature to ban certain topics but its his forum and it will bore people to death and they will leave .

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:13 pm

VOD(original) wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

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But that's the thing Tess, free speech is a great thing, sadly some abuse it by way of verbal racial hatred, which if one was shouting racist remarks on the night street, they would be carted off to the local nick!

Of course myself , Ben and the other mods want free speech, but some just can't be trusted with this ' free speech' sadly. Sad

Its immature to ban certain topics but its his forum and it will bore people to death and they will leave .


That's not we want VOD, but all I'm saying is why can't you religious whacko snot just keep your belief in your God to yourselves?


It causes too much hatred and bickering Sad

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:15 pm

How about allowing one religious thread a week? Would that be a compromise?

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:18 pm

Joy Division wrote:
VOD(original) wrote:

Its immature to ban certain topics but its his forum and it will bore people to death and they will leave .


That's not we want VOD, but all I'm saying is why can't you religious whacko snot just keep your belief in your God to yourselves?


It causes too much hatred and bickering Sad


Do what you want i'm out of here soon just hanging on to pm a few friends before i go and to leave them my email address , but other than this its quite clear that the forum is PROGAYYYYYYYYYYYYY and ANTICHRISTIAN so i won't stay where i am not welcome and never have been welcome .

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Post by harvesmom Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:19 pm

You do know that April fools jokes are meant to be done before 12 noon don't you?
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Post by eddie Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:24 pm

Joy Division wrote:Announcement on behalf of Ben...

From tomorrow there will be no religious thread , nor any discussion of religion whatsoever , we often find it leads to scaremongering, inaccuracies , chaos and lies...

Sadly religion is also used to spew hatred toward non religious people or people of another religion.
This is not my decision, it has only been passed on to me to post.



Thank you.

Yeah nice wind up.
April fool, we get it.
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Post by eddie Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:24 pm

harvesmom wrote:You do know that April fools jokes are meant to be done before 12 noon don't you?

And usually by the under 12's.  Rolling Eyes 
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:25 pm

Sassy wrote:How about allowing one religious thread a week?   Would that be a compromise?

Well that's actually quote a good suggestion Sassy, I think the best day for that would be a Sunday...and I'm sure all will agree on that  cheers 

I suppose allowing bike once a week for some to spew it out is a bit more fair ,yes.

I will have to run it by Ben and the mods of course.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:27 pm

VOD(original) wrote:
Joy Division wrote:


That's not we want VOD, but all I'm saying is why can't you religious whacko snot just keep your belief in your God to yourselves?


It causes too much hatred and bickering Sad


Do what you want i'm out of here soon just hanging on to pm a few friends before i go and to leave them my email address , but other than this its quite clear that the forum is PROGAYYYYYYYYYYYYY and ANTICHRISTIAN so i won't stay where i am not welcome and never have been welcome .


VOD , if you act like a real Christian girl , you will always be welcome here.

You know it's not just me, other mods and Ben are sick of the bible being used to insult others.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:28 pm

eddie wrote:
Joy Division wrote:Announcement on behalf of Ben...

From tomorrow there will be no religious thread , nor any discussion of religion whatsoever , we often find it leads to scaremongering, inaccuracies , chaos and lies...

Sadly religion is also used to spew hatred toward non religious people or people of another religion.
This is not my decision, it has only been passed on to me to post.



Thank you.

Yeah nice wind up.
April fool, we get it.


.. What a Face  I hope not or I've no job here! Laughing 

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Post by eddie Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:31 pm

Joy Division wrote:
VOD(original) wrote:


Do what you want i'm out of here soon just hanging on to pm a few friends before i go and to leave them my email address , but other than this its quite clear that the forum is PROGAYYYYYYYYYYYYY and ANTICHRISTIAN so i won't stay where i am not welcome and never have been welcome .


VOD , if you  act like a real Christian girl , you will always be welcome here.

You know it's not just me, other mods and Ben are sick of the bible being used to insult others.

Condescending JD.
I'm sick of being told what people can and can't say.

It's a debate forum so this is a wind up for sure, as no one in their right mind would run a forum banning certain topics.
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:31 pm

eddie wrote:
Joy Division wrote:


VOD , if you  act like a real Christian girl , you will always be welcome here.

You know it's not just me, other mods and Ben are sick of the bible being used to insult others.

Condescending JD.
I'm sick of being told what people can and can't say.




It's a debate forum so this is a wind up for sure, as no one in their right mind would run a forum banning certain topics.



.... Rolling Eyes  See Ben.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:32 pm

April fool finished at 12

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Post by harvesmom Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:33 pm

eddie wrote:
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VOD , if you  act like a real Christian girl , you will always be welcome here.

You know it's not just me, other mods and Ben are sick of the bible being used to insult others.

Condescending JD.
I'm sick of being told what people can and can't say.

It's a debate forum so this is a wind up for sure, as no one in their right mind would run a forum banning certain topics.

They'll ban politics next then we'll all be sitting here discussing the weather and the FT Index.  ::kiltbanan:: 
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:34 pm

Joy Division wrote:
VOD(original) wrote:


Do what you want i'm out of here soon just hanging on to pm a few friends before i go and to leave them my email address , but other than this its quite clear that the forum is PROGAYYYYYYYYYYYYY and ANTICHRISTIAN so i won't stay where i am not welcome and never have been welcome .


VOD , if you  act like a real Christian girl , you will always be welcome here.

You know it's not just me, other mods and Ben are sick of the bible being used to insult others.


Do shut up you slime ball

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Post by eddie Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:35 pm

harvesmom wrote:
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Condescending JD.
I'm sick of being told what people can and can't say.

It's a debate forum so this is a wind up for sure, as no one in their right mind would run a forum banning certain topics.

They'll ban politics next then we'll all be sitting here discussing the weather and the FT Index.  ::kiltbanan:: 

Oh good. I have a masters degree in both of those topics.  cheers 
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Post by Eilzel Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:39 pm

Ben does realize April Fools has been done for hours here doesn't he?
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:41 pm

VOD(original) wrote:
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VOD , if you  act like a real Christian girl , you will always be welcome here.

You know it's not just me, other mods and Ben are sick of the bible being used to insult others.


Do shut up you slime ball



You've just used your first strike lady,don't push me too far or you will be having a 'wee break' sooner than you think.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:42 pm

Eilzel wrote:Ben does realize April Fools has been done for hours here doesn't he?


Well I'm hoping is Eilzel! Laughing 

You is alright mate Smile

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Post by Eilzel Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:43 pm

If they ban religion topics I wont be alright Wink
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:45 pm

Eilzel wrote:If they ban religion topics I wont be alright Wink

..it's actually to keep the peace mate,religion never fails to descend onto chaos, insults and abuse, we just don't want that Eilzel..not another ADO, even I got a sore head there at times!


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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:48 pm

Joy Division wrote:
VOD(original) wrote:


Do shut up you slime ball



You've just used your first strike lady,don't push me too far or you will be having a 'wee break' sooner than you think.


X'ghala biebi

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:50 pm

VOD(original) wrote:
Joy Division wrote:



You've just used your first strike lady,don't push me too far or you will be having a 'wee break' sooner than you think.


X'ghala biebi

Charming!!

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Post by nicko Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:58 pm

Ben knows what will happen if he lets j.d. have his way. Ben wants out, the forum will close.
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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:14 pm

Religious debate here has led to some of the worst abuse we've seen, this will make the admins' lives a lot easier.
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:18 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Religious debate here has led to some of the worst abuse we've seen, this will make the admins' lives a lot easier.

That's it Ben, we had a brief but open talk on this and I'm delighted you are behind it! Smile

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:18 pm

Joy Division wrote:Hi folks, I want to introduce a new forum policy..I don't want to sound too quick off the mark as I'm just in the admin door, but the new policy will be a 3 strikes policy.

It's something myself and other staff and members feel strongly about , that would be racism and picking on the unemployed, some of the stuff I see is a nonsense ...and when these issues are discussed, some paint all others on benefits as being scrounges.

This along with blaming coloured folk and immigrants for all our country's troubles really annoys me,i don't want such hatred on theses boards.

From tomorrow anyone making any more ridicules claims will be give a strike for every one post made slandering , insulting and making libel against other people who may be coloured , an immigrant or folk on benefits will receive a maximum of 3 strikes and they are out.

Once they get to 3 strikes they shall be subject to sanctions..that being a 24 hour ban.

I know it's a bit early to dish out forum rules, but they are there for a reason,


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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:21 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
Joy Division wrote:Hi folks, I want to introduce a new forum policy..I don't want to sound too quick off the mark as I'm just in the admin door, but the new policy will be a 3 strikes policy.

It's something myself and other staff and members feel strongly about , that would be racism and picking on the unemployed, some of the stuff I see is a nonsense ...and when these issues are discussed, some paint all others on benefits as being scrounges.

This along with blaming coloured folk and immigrants for all our country's troubles really annoys me,i don't want such hatred on theses boards.

From tomorrow anyone making any more ridicules claims will be give a strike for every one post made slandering , insulting and making libel against other people who may be coloured , an immigrant or folk on benefits will receive a maximum of 3 strikes and they are out.

Once they get to 3 strikes they shall be subject to sanctions..that being a 24 hour ban.

I know it's a bit early to dish out forum rules, but they are there for a reason,


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..that's the spirit Andy, the three strikes rule will keep this place a good forum and make it even better Smile


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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:23 pm

Joy Division wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:


lol


..that's the spirit Andy, the three strikes rule will keep this place a good forum and make it even better Smile


I've been telling Benji to get a grip on abuse for months, I can assure you.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:30 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
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..that's the spirit Andy, the three strikes rule will keep this place a good forum and make it even better Smile


I've been telling Benji to get a grip on abuse for months, I can assure you.


...ok Andy , settle down pal.

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Post by Original Quill Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:08 pm

Joy Division wrote:It's all going to depend what is said Eilzel...and I'll be honest here...moreover by whom...there will be some exceptions,with the like of our better RW posters like Herbs and Edmund.

Ceeerist, JD. Enter the new era of subjectivity. It's not only about what political views you dislike, but whom you dislike as well? You are one really bad legislator...what's worse, you openly admit it.

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opinions are, just i believe constant slandering isnt, bickering back and forth name calling gets annoying

Define opinion. Once the Greeks outlawed murder, but said it's all right to murder Persians because they weren't human. The devil's in the definition.

It sounds like some pretty biased discussions are taking place up there in the Mod Kitchen. And defensive. Whatsamatter, can't you guys out-think the lightweight, nitwit Tories/Republicans we have on here? You have to outlaw them?

Very bad form. I'm disappointed in you, JD.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:12 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Joy Division wrote:It's all going to depend what is said Eilzel...and I'll be honest here...moreover by whom...there will be some exceptions,with the like of our better RW posters like Herbs and Edmund.

Ceeerist, JD.  Enter the new era of subjectivity.  It's not only about what political views you dislike, but whom you dislike as well?  You are one really bad legislator...what's worse, you openly admit it.

groomsey wrote:
opinions are, just i believe constant slandering isnt, bickering back and forth name calling gets annoying

Define opinion.  Once the Greeks outlawed murder, but said it's all right to murder Persians because they weren't human.  The devil's in the definition.

It sounds like some pretty biased discussions are taking place up there in the Mod Kitchen.  And defensive.  Whatsamatter, can't you guys out-think the lightweight, nitwit Tories/Republicans we have on here?  You have to outlaw them?

Very bad form.  I'm disappointed in you, JD.

Well said. I still think this is an April Fool's Day wind-up though. I hope.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:12 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Joy Division wrote:It's all going to depend what is said Eilzel...and I'll be honest here...moreover by whom...there will be some exceptions,with the like of our better RW posters like Herbs and Edmund.

Ceeerist, JD.  Enter the new era of subjectivity.  It's not only about what political views you dislike, but whom you dislike as well?  You are one really bad legislator...what's worse, you openly admit it.

groomsey wrote:
opinions are, just i believe constant slandering isnt, bickering back and forth name calling gets annoying

Define opinion.  Once the Greeks outlawed murder, but said it's all right to murder Persians because they weren't human.  The devil's in the definition.

It sounds like some pretty biased discussions are taking place up there in the Mod Kitchen.  And defensive.  Whatsamatter, can't you guys out-think the lightweight, nitwit Tories/Republicans we have on here?  You have to outlaw them?

Very bad form.  I'm disappointed in you, JD.


Im sorry Quill, but as I regard you as a forum friend, you also are one if those who has the right to say what he wants , as I know it will be in good taste.

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