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Post by veya_victaous Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:27 am

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/03/06/13/29/us-court-rules-that-filming-up-the-skirt-of-women-is-legal

The Massachusetts High Court has ruled that it is legal to take photos under a woman's dress or skirt.
The bizarre ruling backed arguments that laws prohibiting voyeurism did not apply to "upskirting".

For that law to apply to "upskirting", victims would have to be either completely or partially nude.

"A female who is wearing a skirt, dress, or the like covering [private] parts of her body is not a person who is 'partially nude,' no matter what is or is not underneath the skirt by way of underwear or other clothing," read the ruling by Justice Margot Botsford.

Among those outraged by the decision was US Democrat and House Speaker Robert DeLeo, who blamed the decision on a legal loophole he plans to close.

"The ruling of the Supreme Judicial Court is contrary to the spirit of the current law. The House will begin work on updating our statutes to conform with today's technology immediately," Mr DeLeo said in a statement.
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Post by Ben Reilly Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:10 am

veya_victaous wrote:http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/03/06/13/29/us-court-rules-that-filming-up-the-skirt-of-women-is-legal

The Massachusetts High Court has ruled that it is legal to take photos under a woman's dress or skirt.
The bizarre ruling backed arguments that laws prohibiting voyeurism did not apply to "upskirting".

For that law to apply to "upskirting", victims would have to be either completely or partially nude.

"A female who is wearing a skirt, dress, or the like covering [private] parts of her body is not a person who is 'partially nude,' no matter what is or is not underneath the skirt by way of underwear or other clothing," read the ruling by Justice Margot Botsford.

Among those outraged by the decision was US Democrat and House Speaker Robert DeLeo, who blamed the decision on a legal loophole he plans to close.

"The ruling of the Supreme Judicial Court is contrary to the spirit of the current law. The House will begin work on updating our statutes to conform with today's technology immediately," Mr DeLeo said in a statement.

I seem to recall another ruling out of Boston where a woman was deemed not to have been publicly indecent even though she was almost naked, because her pubic hair hid her vagina. Boston has some weird rulings on things like this.
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Post by eddie Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:23 am

Shocked so you can just go and take a photo of a woman's cookie jar anytime you like??
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Post by Guest Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:57 am

"Cookie Jar" Filming up skirts legal in Massachusetts Big-Surprise1

I reckon there's a few battered biscuit barrels on here that would enjoy an outing.

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:09 am

Andy and his mates want to move there  ::D:: 

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:10 am

Croissant wrote:"Cookie Jar" Filming up skirts legal in Massachusetts Big-Surprise1

I reckon there's a few battered biscuit barrels on here that would enjoy an outing.


Whispering gorillas?

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Post by eddie Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:25 pm

Croissant wrote:"Cookie Jar" Filming up skirts legal in Massachusetts Big-Surprise1

I reckon there's a few battered biscuit barrels on here that would enjoy an outing.

Hahahahahaha
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Post by Guest Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:42 pm

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veya_victaous wrote:http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/03/06/13/29/us-court-rules-that-filming-up-the-skirt-of-women-is-legal



I seem to recall another ruling out of Boston where a woman was deemed not to have been publicly indecent even though she was almost naked, because her pubic hair hid her vagina. Boston has some weird rulings on things like this.

This is another spoof thread isn't it? Filming up skirts legal in Massachusetts Embarr51

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:46 pm

if the women photographed had no knickers on would it then be voyeurism..

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Post by Cass Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:38 pm

In Arizona it is illegal to hunt camels

The US Army once experimented with camels in the Arizona desert, and eventually gave up. The remaining camels were set free, and are now protected.

In Montana It is illegal to have a sheep in the cab of your truck without a chaperone.

check out this
http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states


now don't say i never give you people anything....enjoy
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Post by Irn Bru Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:31 pm

Hey, this works both ways you know. What about women taking pictures up the kilts of Scotsmen?

We've got enough to cope with jaggy nettles and thistles without having to worry about women down open manhole covers.

Strewth!!!!
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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:16 am

Cass wrote:In Arizona it is illegal to hunt camels

The US Army once experimented with camels in the Arizona desert, and eventually gave up. The remaining camels were set free, and are now protected.

In Montana It is illegal to have a sheep in the cab of your truck without a chaperone.

check out this
http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states


now don't say i never give you people anything....enjoy

I love those! Here's a good one -- it used to be illegal for women to drive in Memphis, Tennessee unless a man was walking or running in front of the car, waving a red flag to warn pedestrians and other motorists ...

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Post by Original Quill Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:47 am

Cass wrote:In Arizona it is illegal to hunt camels

The US Army once experimented with camels in the Arizona desert, and eventually gave up. The remaining camels were set free, and are now protected.

In Montana It is illegal to have a sheep in the cab of your truck without a chaperone.

check out this
http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states


now don't say i never give you people anything....enjoy

Yes, in Arizona the camel is a protected species.  The story of the camel brigade is a wonderful story.

Speaking of the unusual in Arizona, the Jaguar is making a comeback.  They have spotted a pride in the Santa Rita Mountains, just south of Tucson. Look.....

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The Durango Herald wrote:ALBUQUERQUE – Federal wildlife officials Tuesday set aside nearly 1,200 square miles along the U.S.-Mexico border as habitat essential for the conservation of the jaguar, a species that hasn’t been spotted in New Mexico in eight years and one that has made only fleeting appearances on wildlife cameras in Arizona’s Santa Rita Mountains.

Jaguars have been on the federal endangered species list for nearly two decades, but it took a series of lawsuits filed by environmentalists to prompt the critical habitat designation.

Despite only a handful of male jaguars being spotted in the Southwest through the years, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said the region’s desert scrub, mesquite grasslands and oak woodlands make for important habitat.

“Critical habitat in the United States contributes to the jaguar’s persistence and recovery across the species’ entire range by providing areas to support individuals that disperse into the United States from the nearest core population in Mexico,” the agency said in a statement.

The Arizona Game and Fish Department and other critics wanted the habitat proposal withdrawn when it was first introduced in 2012. They argued the Southwest isn’t essential to the jaguar’s survival because nearly all of the cat’s historic range is in Central and South America.

“The proposal’s assertion that habitat in Arizona and New Mexico is essential to jaguar recovery ignores basic biological principles of conservation,” the Arizona agency said in a five-page letter to federal officials.

“To be effective, jaguar conservation must occur in areas of their range where consistent breeding occurs,” the agency stated.

The Fish and Wildlife Service acknowledges that no female jaguars or breeding have been documented in the U.S. in more than 50 years. Jaguars were placed on the federal endangered species list in 1997.

Environmentalists praised Tuesday’s decision, saying partial measures over the years have not gone far enough to protect those jaguars that are returning to the U.S.

“This was a widespread animal and the fact that it has been reduced to very rare sightings in the U.S. today is a testament to how much ground it has lost and has to recover, including in Mexico, where it’s still losing ground,” said Michael Robinson of the Center for Biological Diversity.

Biologists rely on an extensive network of remote cameras across southern Arizona and southwestern New Mexico for gauging how often the big cats roam between Mexico and the U.S.

The images captured so far reveal a lone male has been roaming in the Santa Rita Mountains southeast of Tucson.

Always under the cover of darkness, the cat – with its massive jaw, spotted coat and long black-tipped tail – can be seen walking through tall grass or darting across the camera’s field of view, leaving behind only a blur.

Marit Alanen, a biologist with the Fish and Wildlife Service in Tucson, acknowledged that many people don’t realize the exotic cats are returning.

“When you think about typical jaguar habitat being in the jungle and being tropical, it is pretty exciting that we actually have them in Arizona right now,” she said.

The habitat designation includes parts of Pima, Santa Cruz and Cochise counties in Arizona and Hidalgo County in New Mexico. Federal officials say they considered the availability of native prey, water sources, vegetation, topography and other factors in determining the boundaries.

The Fish and Wildlife Service also said the designation will not affect border security, including routine patrols by law enforcement.

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Post by Original Quill Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:01 am

The rationale of the Mass court is that no law was broken as the woman was fully clothed and the First Amendment permits public photography.  The fact that a woman's mode of dress (skirt) allows for her cooter to be photographed is considered not the photographer's fault.

The court also strongly urged the legislature to update and design laws that accommodate modern technology.  Hell, we were gettin' into those skirts in grade school.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:51 pm

veya_victaous wrote:http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/03/06/13/29/us-court-rules-that-filming-up-the-skirt-of-women-is-legal

The Massachusetts High Court has ruled that it is legal to take photos under a woman's dress or skirt.
The bizarre ruling backed arguments that laws prohibiting voyeurism did not apply to "upskirting".

For that law to apply to "upskirting", victims would have to be either completely or partially nude.

"A female who is wearing a skirt, dress, or the like covering [private] parts of her body is not a person who is 'partially nude,' no matter what is or is not underneath the skirt by way of underwear or other clothing," read the ruling by Justice Margot Botsford.

Among those outraged by the decision was US Democrat and House Speaker Robert DeLeo, who blamed the decision on a legal loophole he plans to close.

"The ruling of the Supreme Judicial Court is contrary to the spirit of the current law. The House will begin work on updating our statutes to conform with today's technology immediately," Mr DeLeo said in a statement.

I have to agree with the conclusion of CNN legal analyst Sunny Hostin, who calls the ruling an assault on a woman's right to privacy.

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Post by Irn Bru Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:54 pm

lovedust wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/03/06/13/29/us-court-rules-that-filming-up-the-skirt-of-women-is-legal

The Massachusetts High Court has ruled that it is legal to take photos under a woman's dress or skirt.
The bizarre ruling backed arguments that laws prohibiting voyeurism did not apply to "upskirting".

For that law to apply to "upskirting", victims would have to be either completely or partially nude.

"A female who is wearing a skirt, dress, or the like covering [private] parts of her body is not a person who is 'partially nude,' no matter what is or is not underneath the skirt by way of underwear or other clothing," read the ruling by Justice Margot Botsford.

Among those outraged by the decision was US Democrat and House Speaker Robert DeLeo, who blamed the decision on a legal loophole he plans to close.

"The ruling of the Supreme Judicial Court is contrary to the spirit of the current law. The House will begin work on updating our statutes to conform with today's technology immediately," Mr DeLeo said in a statement.

I have to agree with the conclusion of CNN legal analyst Sunny Hostin, who calls the ruling an assault on a woman's right to privacy.

What about a Scotsman's right to privacy?

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That too. No doubt.

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Post by groomsy Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:12 pm

ROAD TRIP!
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Post by Cass Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:41 pm

groomsy wrote:ROAD TRIP!

too late dude

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mass-lawmakers-vow-outlaw-upskirting-article-1.1713113
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Post by groomsy Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:16 am

Cass wrote:

too late dude

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mass-lawmakers-vow-outlaw-upskirting-article-1.1713113

 Crying or Very sad 

oh well
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Post by Original Quill Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:27 am

It really is a legislative problem. Update the laws, folks. It's what you call a double-take decision. Every once in a while appellate courts come up with outrageous decisions like this, just to bring attention to the problem.

And update fashion. Aren't skirts gone the way of Roman togas, anyway?

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