America Bracing for Another Right-Wing Attempt to Overthrow the Government in Two Weeks

Meanwhile, Trump, high-ranking Republican members of Congress and former Trump staffers are trying to keep hidden their phone records from Jan. 6 and the days leading up to the first coup attempt -- what do they have to hide?

The only way to settle these differences is with another civil war. Otherwise it will go on eating at folks, causing sporadic school shootings and bombings, etc.

Or, it could all be settled peacefully and maturely by simply separating the states, allowing for an amnesty period where folks can adjust their residency, and dividing north from south along the Amexit plan. This whole divisiveness goes back to industry vs. agrarianism, equality vs. slavery.

Meanwhile.........


WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/



If you think those clowns were capable of overthrowing anything, I have a bridge to sell you.

It doesn't have to be an "organized plot". It could as easily be a common sentiment, laced with guns and a will for violence.

Nobody said they will be successful...just destructive.

Original Quill wrote:It doesn't have to be an "organized plot".  It could as easily be a common sentiment, laced with guns and a will for violence.

Nobody said they will be successful...just destructive.

No one had any guns.

This was a bunch of fools who got worked up and stormed building, with no real plan except to intimidate another bunch of fools who work in that building.

The only positive I can see from this is they went after power and those they felt were responsible for their predicament. They left the liquor store and Target alone..

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:It doesn't have to be an "organized plot".  It could as easily be a common sentiment, laced with guns and a will for violence.

Nobody said they will be successful...just destructive.

No one had any guns.

This was a bunch of fools who got worked up and stormed  building, with no real plan except to intimidate another bunch of fools who work in that building.  

The only positive I can see from this is they went after power and those they felt were responsible for their predicament. They left the liquor store and Target alone..

There were guns.  

The attack was on the Vice President, who was carrying out a constitutional procedure related to the 'calling of the election' and the transfer of power.  That is a direct attack on the nation - one that you can't get at a Target or Walmart.  That is the very essence of the charge of Conspiracy Against the United States.

The defense you state is the core of a confusion in the US: what is the difference between enthusiastic participation and unlawful conspiracy to disrupt constitutional procedure?  Heretofore, we had only to look at the players - if they were black, they belonged in prison.  But now the bad guys are white, and we have to look closer.  They were not looting or breaking windows...they were trying to disrupt a function of the US government.

It turns out, the attackers really were trying to disrupt constitutional procedure, and that’s as bad as it gets.  That is sedition: conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch. Sedition is better known as Treason.  The Rosenbergs got the death penalty for less.  So, is it just “a bunch of fools who got worked up and stormed a building” when the conduct is by white supremacists, but a capital crime if committed by a Jew or a black?

See?  And on even a deeper level, when we highlight the racial lines, we see that it’s the same cleavage that originally existed to make the US two nations, not one.  It’s the same cleavage that caused the civil war, and has existed all along in slavery, peonage, Jim Crow, separate but equal, segregation and…white supremacy.

Hence, in lieu of another civil war, and the violence and bloodshed involved, we see that Amexit is a peaceful and sane way of settling the difference.  You're in denial - off in never-never land - if you don't see that.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

No one had any guns.

This was a bunch of fools who got worked up and stormed  building, with no real plan except to intimidate another bunch of fools who work in that building.  

The only positive I can see from this is they went after power and those they felt were responsible for their predicament. They left the liquor store and Target alone..

There were guns.  

The attack was on the Vice President, who was carrying out a constitutional procedure related to the 'calling of the election' and the transfer of power.  That is a direct attack on the nation - one that you can't get at a Target or Walmart.  That is the very essence of the charge of Conspiracy Against the United States.

The defense you state is the core of a confusion in the US: what is the difference between enthusiastic participation and unlawful conspiracy to disrupt constitutional procedure?  Heretofore, we had only to look at the players - if they were black, they belonged in prison.  But now the bad guys are white, and we have to look closer.  They were not looting or breaking windows...they were trying to disrupt a function of the US government.

It turns out, the attackers really were trying to disrupt constitutional procedure, and that’s as bad as it gets.  That is sedition: conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.  Sedition is better known as Treason.  The Rosenbergs got the death penalty for less.  So, is it just “a bunch of fools who got worked up and stormed a building” when the conduct is by white supremacists, but a capital crime if committed by a Jew or a black?

See?  And on even a deeper level, when we highlight the racial lines, we see that it’s the same cleavage that originally existed to make the US two nations, not one.  It’s the same cleavage that caused the civil war, and has existed all along in slavery, peonage, Jim Crow, separate but equal, segregation and…white supremacy.

Hence, in lieu of another civil war, and the violence and bloodshed involved, we see that Amexit is a peaceful and sane way of settling the difference.  You're in denial - off in never-never land - if you don't see that.

They attacked the seat of power. That makes far more sense than attacking a Target..

I wish all protests were directed at government buildings and not buildings that house people with nothing to do with it.

Burn city hall. Burn the police station, burn Capitols when you're pissed at government..

Maddog wrote:They attacked the seat of power. That makes far more sense than attacking a Target..

I wish all protests were directed at government buildings and not buildings that house people with nothing to do with it.

Burn city hall. Burn the police station, burn Capitols when you're pissed at government..

That is because, in fact, you are a zealot, out for self-interest.

America was invented with a unique flexibility that would allow for any accommodation whatsoever...as long as it continued to allow for any accommodation.  That was the purpose of opting for democratic self-rule.  In other words, it would be permanently self-adjusting, with the goal of justice its aim.

But that's just it...the anti-government types don't like that government was correcting things - particularly slavery and its progeny.  It disrupted their neat little white supremacist world.  In other words, some kinds of justice are just too inconvenient.  So, they rejected the idea of self-adjustment, because things like equality were too...well, too equitable.

In fact, they are the anti-justice ones - the ones with self-interested motives, rather than favoring communal interests.  The Bible speaks of them as the fallen angels, the followers of Lucifer.  Books like Animal Farm mention them in terms of their character: All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others!  They are anti-government, because they don't like the moral path that an all-inclusive, well-adjusted government will take.

Today, the anti-justice ones are at their zenith in southern states.  States like Florida, Texas, Arizona and Georgia, are busy blanking out the "self-adjusting" parts of democratic government.  They want the façade of self-rule, but not the consequences.  So, they rig democracy to appear in the form of voting, but with fixed outcomes.

You, Red, at least are being honest: Burn it all down, and let’s have a pure autocracy, with us in charge!.  You might claim you just want some sort of anarchy, but soon enough you will get around to what you really want: no more self-adjustment; no more justice; a permanent dictatorship, with our kind in control.  No blacks in power.  No Hispanics...at all. Just us pretty white boys.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:They attacked the seat of power. That makes far more sense than attacking a Target..

I wish all protests were directed at government buildings and not buildings that house people with nothing to do with it.

Burn city hall. Burn the police station, burn Capitols when you're pissed at government..

That is because, in fact, you are a zealot, out for self-interest.

America was invented with a unique flexibility that would allow for any accommodation whatsoever...as long as it continued to allow for any accommodation.  That was the purpose of opting for democratic self-rule.  In other words, it would be permanently self-adjusting, with the goal of justice its aim.

But that's just it...the anti-government types don't like that government was correcting things - particularly slavery and its progeny.  It disrupted their neat little white supremacist world.  In other words, some kinds of justice are just too inconvenient.  So, they rejected the idea of self-adjustment, because things like equality were too...well, too equitable.

In fact, they are the anti-justice ones - the ones with self-interested motives, rather than favoring communal interests.  The Bible speaks of them as the fallen angels, the followers of Lucifer.  Books like Animal Farm mention them in terms of their character: All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others!  They are anti-government, because they don't like the moral path that an all-inclusive, well-adjusted government will take.

Today, the anti-justice ones are at their zenith in southern states.  States like Florida, Texas, Arizona and Georgia, are busy blanking out the "self-adjusting" parts of democratic government.  They want the façade of self-rule, but not the consequences.  So, they rig democracy to appear in the form of voting, but with fixed outcomes.

You, Red, at least are being honest: Burn it all down, and let’s have a pure autocracy, with us in charge!.  You might claim you just want some sort of anarchy, but soon enough you will get around to what you really want: no more self-adjustment; no more justice; a permanent dictatorship, with our kind in control.  No blacks in power.  No Hispanics...at all.  Just us pretty white boys.  

I'd much rather be led by black libertarians than white progressiveives like you.

But keep making up shit about yourself and others.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

That is because, in fact, you are a zealot, out for self-interest.

America was invented with a unique flexibility that would allow for any accommodation whatsoever...as long as it continued to allow for any accommodation.  That was the purpose of opting for democratic self-rule.  In other words, it would be permanently self-adjusting, with the goal of justice its aim.

But that's just it...the anti-government types don't like that government was correcting things - particularly slavery and its progeny.  It disrupted their neat little white supremacist world.  In other words, some kinds of justice are just too inconvenient.  So, they rejected the idea of self-adjustment, because things like equality were too...well, too equitable.

In fact, they are the anti-justice ones - the ones with self-interested motives, rather than favoring communal interests.  The Bible speaks of them as the fallen angels, the followers of Lucifer.  Books like Animal Farm mention them in terms of their character: All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others!  They are anti-government, because they don't like the moral path that an all-inclusive, well-adjusted government will take.

Today, the anti-justice ones are at their zenith in southern states.  States like Florida, Texas, Arizona and Georgia, are busy blanking out the "self-adjusting" parts of democratic government.  They want the façade of self-rule, but not the consequences.  So, they rig democracy to appear in the form of voting, but with fixed outcomes.

You, Red, at least are being honest: Burn it all down, and let’s have a pure autocracy, with us in charge!.  You might claim you just want some sort of anarchy, but soon enough you will get around to what you really want: no more self-adjustment; no more justice; a permanent dictatorship, with our kind in control.  No blacks in power.  No Hispanics...at all.  Just us pretty white boys.  

I'd much rather be led by black libertarians than white progressiveives like you.  

But keep making up shit about yourself and others.

Labeling won't help your cause.  Labeling is just jingoism in another form.  It uses adjectives, and as I've said a million times...adjectives are not arguments!

Face it...you oppose government because you don't like being pulled out of your comfortable little nest.  And your comfortable little nest is where events have left you, a pretty lil white boy, who has all the advantages of white people, particularly in the south.

You don't like the fact that government reaches down and makes you do things, all in the name of those damn welfare mom's, and black lives matter dudes, who should be shot by police, and even by private citizens packing Glocks.  Chrisalmighty...what's this world comin' to?  

You're a good story teller. Being full of shit helps.

Maddog wrote:You're a good story teller. Being full of shit helps.

You don't think, Red. You just wrap discussions in a neat lil package, and label them "story telling". Because you don't think about things, you end up being noncommunicative. Whether you call it "story telling" or not, I'd rather be connected with others.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:You're a good story teller. Being full of shit helps.

You don't think, Red.  You just wrap discussions in a neat lil package, and label them "story telling".  Because you don't think about things, you end up being noncommunicative.  Whether you call it "story telling" or not, I'd rather be connected with others.

You fabricate stories about yourself and others Walter.

You have a gift.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

You don't think, Red.  You just wrap discussions in a neat lil package, and label them "story telling".  Because you don't think about things, you end up being noncommunicative.  Whether you call it "story telling" or not, I'd rather be connected with others.

You fabricate stories about yourself and others Walter.

You have a gift.

Everything I've said about myself is true. It's just that in your personal attacks, it fits your mold to attack my history as well. Stay on track...if you can.

I suspect it started when you felt the pangs of jealousy.

Quill and Maddog...

Syl wrote:Quill and Maddog...

I'd prefer talking to anyone but him, but most folks are MIA on the threads that interest me.

So I bide my time pointing out his bullshit, while he wastes time spewing more of it than anyone could ever be interested in.

Maddog wrote:

Syl wrote:Quill and Maddog...

I'd prefer talking to anyone but him, but most folks are MIA on the threads that interest me.

So I bide my time pointing  out his bullshit, while he wastes time spewing more of it than anyone could ever be interested in.

That's the jealousy speaking...making excuses, pretending you are not covetous. Shoulda stayed in school, Red.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

I'd prefer talking to anyone but him, but most folks are MIA on the threads that interest me.

So I bide my time pointing  out his bullshit, while he wastes time spewing more of it than anyone could ever be interested in.

That's the jealousy speaking...making excuses, pretending you are not covetous.  Shoulda stayed in school, Red.

Yeah, keep dreaming Walter.

Uh-huh.