Woman offended by another woman's cock.

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Police arrested several dozen people and fired non-lethal projectiles to disperse an unruly crowd on Saturday after a dueling protest over transgender rights at a Los Angeles spa turned violent.

The protests stemmed from a video that circulated online earlier this month, in which an irate customer complained to the staff at Wi Spa about a transgender woman's exposed genitalia in the women's section of the spa.

The video sparked controversy after the spa defended its policy of allowing transgender customers in its facilities, the Los Angeles Times reported.

https://news.yahoo.com/protests-over-transgender-rights-la-232129215.html

It appears a woman with a vagina took her daughters to the spa and the daughters got an eyeful of a woman with a penis.

Protests broke out. No word on if any kneeling in solidarity was involved.

If a woman has a willy she is still a man in my opinion....or at least not woman enough to use the female changing rooms.

Why she/he would have to show her 'cock' anyway is baffling, surely there were individual cubicles to undress in.

Syl wrote:If a woman has a willy she is still a man in my opinion....or at least not woman enough to use  the female changing rooms.

Why she/he would have to show her 'cock' anyway is baffling, surely there were individual cubicles to undress in.

Beats me?

Maybe the doors should be labeled Willy and Non Willy?

Maddog wrote:LOS ANGELES (AP) — Police arrested several dozen people and fired non-lethal projectiles to disperse an unruly crowd on Saturday after a dueling protest over transgender rights at a Los Angeles spa turned violent.

The protests stemmed from a video that circulated online earlier this month, in which an irate customer complained to the staff at Wi Spa about a transgender woman's exposed genitalia in the women's section of the spa.

The video sparked controversy after the spa defended its policy of allowing transgender customers in its facilities, the Los Angeles Times reported.

https://news.yahoo.com/protests-over-transgender-rights-la-232129215.html

It appears a woman with a vagina took her daughters to the spa and the daughters got an eyeful of a woman with a penis.  

Protests broke out. No word on if any kneeling in solidarity was involved.

The world's gone mad.   There was a Tweet on Twitter yesterday.   A woman complained about a man who stepped into the ladies toilet and pissed in the sink.  When she objected he said, Fuck off, my name's Alice, OK?

Just about sums it all up.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Maddog wrote:LOS ANGELES (AP) — Police arrested several dozen people and fired non-lethal projectiles to disperse an unruly crowd on Saturday after a dueling protest over transgender rights at a Los Angeles spa turned violent.

The protests stemmed from a video that circulated online earlier this month, in which an irate customer complained to the staff at Wi Spa about a transgender woman's exposed genitalia in the women's section of the spa.

The video sparked controversy after the spa defended its policy of allowing transgender customers in its facilities, the Los Angeles Times reported.

https://news.yahoo.com/protests-over-transgender-rights-la-232129215.html

It appears a woman with a vagina took her daughters to the spa and the daughters got an eyeful of a woman with a penis.  

Protests broke out. No word on if any kneeling in solidarity was involved.

The world's gone mad.   There was a Tweet on Twitter yesterday.   A woman complained about a man who stepped into the ladies toilet and pissed in the sink.  When she objected he said, Fuck off, my name's Alice, OK?

Just about sums it all up.

I honestly believe that that sort of thing has only become ‘a thing’ because of the whole song and dance made about the issue in the first place. Back when trans people used the toilet of the gender they identified with without anyone caring, there never seemed to be an issue.

I worked in clubs back in the day. Manchester has always had an open mind re cross dressing, gay, straight, transwhatever.....it wasn't that unusual to see men dressed as women in ladies toilets in a couple of the bars and clubs which is now predominately the gay village.

They did use the cubicles though....I never saw anyone pee in the sink.

Eilzel wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

The world's gone mad.   There was a Tweet on Twitter yesterday.   A woman complained about a man who stepped into the ladies toilet and pissed in the sink.  When she objected he said, Fuck off, my name's Alice, OK?

Just about sums it all up.

I honestly believe that that sort of thing has only become ‘a thing’ because of the whole song and dance made about the issue in the first place. Back when trans people used the toilet of the gender they identified with without anyone caring, there never seemed to be an issue.

No one cared, or no one knew?

Obviously, if you look like a woman and use the stall, no one really knows.

I think the problem is there is a lack of discretion in some cases now, and woman are getting an eyeful of penis in an area they aren't expecting it.

Never mind men, I have never understood women who manage to show everything they have in changing rooms.
It's perfectly possible to get dried and changed without adopting positions more suited to the Kama Sutra.

Oh dear. I’m obviously too old and too innocent to understand all this…….

Eilzel wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

The world's gone mad.   There was a Tweet on Twitter yesterday.   A woman complained about a man who stepped into the ladies toilet and pissed in the sink.  When she objected he said, Fuck off, my name's Alice, OK?

Just about sums it all up.

I honestly believe that that sort of thing has only become ‘a thing’ because of the whole song and dance made about the issue in the first place. Back when trans people used the toilet of the gender they identified with without anyone caring, there never seemed to be an issue.

Women on the whole have no issue with it. But I'd say most do have an issue with someone who whips out their dick, be they trans or otherwise, in such a display. Genuine trans wouldn't dream of it...at least I hope they wouldn't. I've known a few and they were pretty much as feminine as it gets. But this is now the loophole that will be exploited by pervs. And just because a person is trans doesn't necessarily exclude them from being an exhibitionist or worse.

Fred Moletrousers wrote:Oh dear. I’m obviously too old and too innocent to understand all this…….

Come away, O human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand.

Or....

There was a fine fellow called Fred

Who entered a quite saucy thread

The posts that he saw

made him swiftly withdraw

He turned red with the words he had read.

Is Fred a bloke? Is Fred a bird?
‘Tis a question that is not oft heard.
He’ll tell you when he feels he’s able,
But as for now, just call him Mabel.

We are wasted on here Mabel.

Eilzel wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

The world's gone mad.   There was a Tweet on Twitter yesterday.   A woman complained about a man who stepped into the ladies toilet and pissed in the sink.  When she objected he said, Fuck off, my name's Alice, OK?

Just about sums it all up.

I honestly believe that that sort of thing has only become ‘a thing’ because of the whole song and dance made about the issue in the first place. Back when trans people used the toilet of the gender they identified with without anyone caring, there never seemed to be an issue.

Or more like this is only a recent issue because of the mass rise in the number of males self identifying as women

To say this was happenning before with no issues is based on what exactly?

Stonewall claim the majority of trans women are afraid to use the womens toilets and changing rooms

So which is it Eilzel?

The fact is we have seen provisions for females with single sex, being superseded by a faith based belief system. That claims some males are women

Now good luck to those who believe this, but by what right do they have to impose this forced validation onto people? Why do females have no say and now lose single sex spaces by default through a system of self ID?

The reality is, if a trans women has not had gender reassignment surgery, they should not be using communal spaces where females are naked. The reality is self id has opened the door, for predators to abuse a belief of self id and will increase the risk of harm to females

It seems that is of no concern to trans activists

What should happen now is that we look to change facilities to mutiple single lockable roomed facilities. This provides privacy and safety for everyone

The fact is this is not an inclusive policy at all, if it ends up excluding many females now uncomfortable useing single sex facilities specicially created for them

Gender woo woo, is the modern form of religion. That if people do not believe or buy into, they are cast down as heretics

Femals as a sex class have a right to organise as a group, to have privacy in spaces away from males, because its vastly males in society that commit criminal acts

There is a difference between using toilets and changing rooms.

I see no problem at all with unisex toilets, except for schools, where I think male and female toilets should be separated.
Toilets have a door with a bolt. Every unisex loo I have used (a lot) has floor to ceiling walls inside the cubicle...no chance of a possible pervert getting an eyeful.

In changing rooms people are naked, they should be strictly male or female not mixed.
And to me that simply means, if you still have a willy and a hairy chest, no matter what you say you identify with....you are not entitled to use the female changing room.

Syl wrote:There is a difference between using toilets and changing rooms.

I see no problem at all with unisex toilets, except for schools, where I think male and female toilets should be separated.
Toilets have a door with a bolt. Every unisex loo I have used (a lot) has floor to ceiling walls inside the cubicle...no chance of a possible pervert getting an eyeful.

In changing rooms people are naked, they should be strictly male or female not mixed.
And to me that simply means, if you still have a willy and a hairy chest, no matter what you say you identify with....you are not entitled to use the female changing room.

One of the finest restaurants in Mill Valley has solved the problem this way: There are four little rooms off a hall, each labeled 'UniSex'. No problem.

Even in changing rooms, people are not there to rape one another. If one shows up, finish up and MYOB. What could be easier.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:There is a difference between using toilets and changing rooms.

I see no problem at all with unisex toilets, except for schools, where I think male and female toilets should be separated.
Toilets have a door with a bolt. Every unisex loo I have used (a lot) has floor to ceiling walls inside the cubicle...no chance of a possible pervert getting an eyeful.

In changing rooms people are naked, they should be strictly male or female not mixed.
And to me that simply means, if you still have a willy and a hairy chest, no matter what you say you identify with....you are not entitled to use the female changing room.

One of the finest restaurants in Mill Valley has solved the problem this way: There are four little rooms off a hall, each labeled 'UniSex'.  No problem.

Even in changing rooms, people are not there to rape one another.  If one shows up, finish up and MYOB.  What could be easier.

One of my favourite restaurants has individual toilets on both floors, 2 unisex one female.
As far as I know no one has ever complained.

Unfortunately Quill, some men do have rape on their mind. A mixed changing room could make some women feel unsafe.

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

One of the finest restaurants in Mill Valley has solved the problem this way: There are four little rooms off a hall, each labeled 'UniSex'.  No problem.

Even in changing rooms, people are not there to rape one another.  If one shows up, finish up and MYOB.  What could be easier.

One of my favourite restaurants has individual toilets on both floors, 2 unisex one female.
As far as I know no one has ever complained.

Unfortunately Quill, some men do have rape on their mind. A mixed changing room could make some women feel unsafe.

I wonder how many?  And, if we're talking about gym's or health clubs, make Big Bubba the towel boy (in some neutral, but accessible desk) and have him respond to any physical violence or threats.  That should weaken the ardor any of enthusiastic boners.

Having mixed facilities will stop a lot of women using them from just being rather modest to strong religious principles. Surely its better to get as many people especially women going to gyms, swimming pools and other sports facilities. The benefits for the majority have to outweigh
the minority in this case at least until you've had the surgery..

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:

One of my favourite restaurants has individual toilets on both floors, 2 unisex one female.
As far as I know no one has ever complained.

Unfortunately Quill, some men do have rape on their mind. A mixed changing room could make some women feel unsafe.

I wonder how many?  And, if we're talking about gym's or health clubs, make Big Bubba the towel boy (in some neutral, but accessible desk) and have him respond to any physical violence or threats.  That should weaken the ardor any of enthusiastic boners.

Who is Big Bubba?

I am not suggesting lots of men have rape on their mind, but it happens....and for the ones who are that way inclined, I'm sure hanging around mixed changing rooms waiting for a lone woman to use the facilities would ne a handy place to be.

Here is what can happen when authorities accept a mans word that he now identifies as a woman.


"Male rapist who identifies as ‘female’ transfers to women’s jail, assaults females
The 52-year-old man is a convicted sex offender and pedophile who now goes by the name of 'Karen' White."







https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/male-rapist-who-identifies-as-female-transfers-to-womens-jail-assaults-fema

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I wonder how many?  And, if we're talking about gym's or health clubs, make Big Bubba the towel boy (in some neutral, but accessible desk) and have him respond to any physical violence or threats.  That should weaken the ardor any of enthusiastic boners.

Who is Big Bubba?

It's a generic name for a muscular, big guy. The kind of guy that they hire for security at night clubs.

Syl wrote:Here is what can happen when authorities accept a mans word that he now identifies as a woman.

"Male rapist who identifies as ‘female’ transfers to women’s jail, assaults females
The 52-year-old man is a convicted sex offender and pedophile who now goes by the name of 'Karen' White."


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/male-rapist-who-identifies-as-female-transfers-to-womens-jail-assaults-fema

Maybe jails, because they are already weirdos. But in a gym, I can't imagine it. Most guys are in a mindset to do what they came to do: in a gym, it's work-out or lift weights. Same for women. They don't have time to plan a shift to the woman's side for a bit of nooky under pretenses that they are gay or trans. Anyway, Bubba would take care of that.

I remember one time that a woman with a young boy used to go into the men's dressing room and help the kid dress. Ostensibly, she was watching that no pervs approached the kid. Most of the men just turned their back and proceeded to change. I think it's much ado about nothing ...you just have to get used to it.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:

Who is Big Bubba?

It's a generic name for a muscular, big guy.  The kind of guy that they hire for security at night clubs.  

OK....I had never heard of that expression.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:Here is what can happen when authorities accept a mans word that he now identifies as a woman.

"Male rapist who identifies as ‘female’ transfers to women’s jail, assaults females
The 52-year-old man is a convicted sex offender and pedophile who now goes by the name of 'Karen' White."


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/male-rapist-who-identifies-as-female-transfers-to-womens-jail-assaults-fema

Maybe jails, because they are already weirdos.  But in a gym, I can't imagine it.  Most guys are in a mindset to do what they came to do: in a gym, it's work-out or lift weights.  Same for women.  They don't have time to plan a shift to the woman's side for a bit of nooky under pretenses that they are gay or trans.  Anyway, Bubba would take care of that.

I remember one time that a woman with a young boy used to go into the men's dressing room and help the kid dress.  Ostensibly, she was watching that no pervs approached the kid.  Most of the men just turned their back and proceeded to change.  I think it's much ado about nothing ...you just have to get used to it.

Wierdo's who want to sexually abuse random women will go where women are vulnerable.
I agree that MOST guys just want to go about their business, we are not talking about your average guy in the street though....and the baths and gymn I went to for many years had no big Bubba to watch out for perverts.

I used to take my young son with me in the ladies changing room, and the ladies toilets if he needed to go when we were out.

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Maybe jails, because they are already weirdos.  But in a gym, I can't imagine it.  Most guys are in a mindset to do what they came to do: in a gym, it's work-out or lift weights.  Same for women.  They don't have time to plan a shift to the woman's side for a bit of nooky under pretenses that they are gay or trans.  Anyway, Bubba would take care of that.

I remember one time that a woman with a young boy used to go into the men's dressing room and help the kid dress.  Ostensibly, she was watching that no pervs approached the kid.  Most of the men just turned their back and proceeded to change.  I think it's much ado about nothing ...you just have to get used to it.

Wierdo's who want to sexually abuse random women will go where women are vulnerable.
I agree that MOST guys just want to go about their business, we are not talking about your average guy in the street though....and the baths and gymn  I went to for many years had no big Bubba to watch out for perverts.

Like I say, as soon as they come face-to-face with Big Bubba, their erection loses its enthusiasm.

Syl wrote:I used to take my young son with me in the ladies changing room, and the ladies toilets if he needed to go when we were out.

Eventually, that creates the same problem. When the kid gets around 11-13, and sexual inquisitiveness begins...brings ideas to the kid's brain, and you would 'normalizing' his presence in the Ladies Room. I would say puberty is the one age to avoid that.

It's like Les suggested, you make a big deal of it, and the consequences are going to be a big deal. Pay no mind, and everyone goes about his or her business.

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

It's a generic name for a muscular, big guy.  The kind of guy that they hire for security at night clubs.  

OK....I had never heard of that expression.

He made it up.

And why in the hell would you want to hire security at bathrooms?

Wouldn't it be easier to just insist that women not show any other women their dicks?

Maddog wrote:

Syl wrote:

OK....I had never heard of that expression.

He made it up.

And why in the hell would you want to hire security at bathrooms?

Only if it was needed.

Maddog wrote:Wouldn't it be easier to just insist that women not show any other women their dicks?  

That's an inequitable solution...something southerners know all about, with their Jim Crow laws. Just siding with one side (whites), and leaving the 'others' out (blacks) is something that northerners are uncomfortable with.

The same here. You can't just take up one side, and f/off the other side. You've got to find an equitable solution.

Perhaps this is another reason for north/south to peacefully part ways. Amexit.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

He made it up.

And why in the hell would you want to hire security at bathrooms?

Only if it was needed.

Maddog wrote:Wouldn't it be easier to just insist that women not show any other women their dicks?  

That's an inequitable solution...something southerners know all about, with their Jim Crow laws.  Just siding with one side (whites), and leaving the 'others' out (blacks) is something that northerners are uncomfortable with.

The same here.  You can't just take up one side, and f/off the other side.  You've got to find an equitable solution.

Perhaps this is another reason for north/south to peacefully part ways.  Amexit.  

You're right, I was being unfair. You should also insist that men shouldn't show other men their vaginas.

That will no doubt curb your Friday evening activities.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Only if it was needed.



That's an inequitable solution...something southerners know all about, with their Jim Crow laws.  Just siding with one side (whites), and leaving the 'others' out (blacks) is something that northerners are uncomfortable with.

The same here.  You can't just take up one side, and f/off the other side.  You've got to find an equitable solution.

Perhaps this is another reason for north/south to peacefully part ways.  Amexit.  

You're right, I was being unfair. You should also insist that men shouldn't show other men their vaginas.  

That will no doubt curb your Friday evening activities.  

I doubt that side of the equation is a problem. Men are not complainers of vulva exposure, whatever that means (I get confused about what sex part of women is the no-no part...the bush/mons, the clitoris or the canal part...so I go with the Latin, which identified the cuneus).

Anyway, to get the sense of the real controversary, go where they are protesting loudest. That would be in the women's dressing room.

Have you two ever thought of writing a farce?

Syl wrote:Have you two ever thought of writing a farce?

Clever, eh?

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:Have you two ever thought of writing a farce?

Clever, eh?  

Ah, but it could never match the old Brian Rix bedroom farces of the 1960s and 70s. Women chasing women and men chasing men with lustful intent might well be politically correct in this woke-ridden age, but it sure as hell wouldn’t be as funny.

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Clever, eh?  

Ah, but it could never match the old Brian Rix bedroom farces of the 1960s and 70s. Women chasing women and men chasing men with lustful intent might well be politically correct in this woke-ridden age, but it sure as hell wouldn’t be as funny.

Haha...I guess I missed that...not altogether regretfully, Fred.