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Post by Syl on Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:06 pm

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For goodness sake, it was a slip of the tongue, he hardly used the N word. Rolling Eyes


"Chairman of the Football Association Greg Clarke has resigned after using the term "coloured" to describe footballers from different ethnic backgrounds.

Mr Clarke earlier apologised after his remarks during a select committee hearing today.

In a statement, the FA said: "We can confirm that Greg

Clarke has stepped down from his role as our chairman.

"Peter McCormick will step into the role as interim FA Chairman with immediate effect and the FA Board will begin the process of identifying and appointing a new chair in due course."

Mr Clarke had said: "If I look at what happens to high-profile female footballers, to high-profile coloured footballers, and the abuse they take on social media... social media is a free-for-all."


https://news.sky.com/story/fa-chairman-greg-clarke-resigns-after-using-term-coloured-12129420


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Post by Original Quill on Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:08 pm

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Life is unfair, Syl.  How fair was it when the white man kidnapped the black out of Africa and made him endure 400 years of being the beast-of-burden.  So why should we give a shit about the white man today?

If you're going to be inequitable, make sure you distribute it equally.  I see no moral injustice in affirmative action or any kind of compensation whatsoever.  As the white slave master told the black man in 1619: Fook ya if ya can't take a joke.

But that's not the point of this thread.  This thread is about a complete fook-up in the British understanding of words.  Colored is an antiquated term, and only the ignorant will group it in with the N-word or other derogatory terms for blacks.  It's just old and out-of-date.

Yes life is unfair, for some more than others.
And the best way to combat that is to face the problems we have now and try to fix them, not forever be raking up the wrongs of the past causing guilt and resentment......wrongs will never be put right that way.

Yes the point of the thread is to point out how life has been unfair to someone now, in the present day, and I don't see anyone arguing that point....so we at least agree on that. Wink

We are discussing it. It's just that we are exploring a remote corner of issue; to wit: what is and what is not a racist term.

I agree that the best way to combat vestiges that we have left over from past discrimination, is to face the problems we have now.  We do that with affirmative action, giving a boost to blacks that strategically correct present vestiges of past discrimination.

We have been most successful in education, seeing black graduates in this country from the nation's prestigious universities.  With that they gain respect and skills that allow them to find better jobs, greater financial remuneration, and ultimately provide shelter and food for their families, that are presently being denied.  They then give a boost to their own children, and on we go.

So, don't disparage affirmative action, and compensation is just a more open form of the same thing.  It's the civilized way to adjust...and indeed, rid society of any and all poverty.  Give black resources that denied them all the benefits of society before.  If a boost means a little extra to them, well...it's only what was taken from them in the past.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:46 pm

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A lesson in history for quill...

https://m.dw.com/en/east-africas-forgotten-slave-trade/a-50126759



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Post by Original Quill on Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:41 pm

Tom, slavery is not new. It has indeed happened elsewhere.

But you're side-stepping the issue with whataboutism: What about the East African slave trade?

What about it? Do you mean to say that therefore the West African slave trade didn't happen? Or, do you mean to say everyone does it, let's have a party!! What is your point?

To my mind, slavery is evil wherever it happens. The topic here is: what is a civilized way to bring a people back into society, after we deliberately enslaved, subjugated and dehumanized them within our own nation?

We can deal with East African slaves at the same time, but right now our concern is with Anglo-American caused ills in the slavery aftermath.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:28 pm





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Post by HoratioTarr on Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:53 pm

Syl wrote:For goodness sake, it was a slip of the tongue, he hardly used the N word. Rolling Eyes


"Chairman of the Football Association Greg Clarke has resigned after using the term "coloured" to describe footballers from different ethnic backgrounds.

Mr Clarke earlier apologised after his remarks during a select committee hearing today.

In a statement, the FA said: "We can confirm that Greg

Clarke has stepped down from his role as our chairman.

"Peter McCormick will step into the role as interim FA Chairman with immediate effect and the FA Board will begin the process of identifying and appointing a new chair in due course."

Mr Clarke had said: "If I look at what happens to high-profile female footballers, to high-profile coloured footballers, and the abuse they take on social media... social media is a free-for-all."


https://news.sky.com/story/fa-chairman-greg-clarke-resigns-after-using-term-coloured-12129420


To reply to this OP...it's really getting out of hand. Keeping up with what is the current trend of what words or expressions one can use is getting harder by the day.

John Cooper Clark kind of sums it all up...



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Post by Syl on Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:58 pm

There is something about him that really irritates me. I was born and bred in Salford but i never met anyone who spoke with such a nasal exaggerated Salfordian accent as him.

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:29 pm

In the name of all that's holy...what is the fuckin' difference between a "coloured player" and a "player of colour"?

Replace the word "player" with that of "woman" and both the former gracious First Lady of the United States of America and Her (not Royal) Highness Megan, Duchess of Sussex would both be grovelling and demeaning themselves over their penchant for terminology!
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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:41 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:In the name of all that's holy...what is the fuckin' difference between a "coloured player" and a "player of colour"?

+1  Or indeed, a negro or negroid?  It's pc, running around with its head cut off. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:14 pm




Why do black people wear really baggy trousers?


Because their negros (knee grows).


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Post by Syl on Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:21 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:


Why do black people wear really baggy trousers?


Because their negros (knee grows).


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Post by HoratioTarr on Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:56 pm

Syl wrote:There is something about him that really irritates me. I was born and bred in Salford but i never met anyone who spoke with such a nasal exaggerated Salfordian accent as him.

That's a Partington accent.
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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:00 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:In the name of all that's holy...what is the fuckin' difference between a "coloured player" and a "player of colour"?

Replace the word "player" with that of "woman" and both the former gracious First Lady of the United States of America and Her (not Royal) Highness Megan, Duchess of Sussex would both be grovelling and demeaning themselves over their penchant for terminology!

I've never heard of Michele Obama playing PC police, correct me if I'm wrong.

Ooh, that reminds me of a video:


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Post by Syl on Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:23 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Syl wrote:There is something about him that really irritates me. I was born and bred in Salford but i never met anyone who spoke with such a nasal exaggerated Salfordian accent as him.

That's a Partington accent.
He was born and raised in Salford.

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