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Post by Maddog Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:06 pm

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It starts with a knock. Someone in your family opens the door, because you’re old, most likely over 80, certainly poor, possibly infirm, probably a minority. You see a familiar face. She is a community organizer, young, passionate. She has come by often, campaigning for Obama or Wendy Davis. Today she comes bearing a fruit basket, because she wants to help. She’s also kind enough to carry in your mail.

It just so happens that today’s mail brings a large envelope. The envelope contains a letter from the Secretary of State, who thanks you for doing your civic duty. There are pages of instructions in English and Spanish. There is a mail-in ballot for early voting. There is a carrier envelope that must be signed and used to deliver the ballot. The nice woman with the fruit asks if you’d like some help filling out your ballot. Of course you would. It’s all very confusing. She asks you to sign on the envelope and says she’ll take care of the rest.

That’s one scenario. The details can change. The harvesters who show up just as your ballot is delivered, maybe they have to ask you if you’ve already brought your ballot inside. Maybe they find the package in the mailbox, put it on a clipboard, and ask you to sign your name to the carrier envelope for some bogus reason. Maybe you never vote, so these harvesters just take your ballot out of the mailbox for themselves—and you never miss it.

Why are these big envelopes being sent to many people who didn’t even request a mail-in ballot? Because before these ballots were harvested, these precincts were “seeded.” Large batches of applications for ballots, stuffed in manila envelopes, had arrived at the county elections office, each request with a name from voter lists that had also been requested from said office. That elections office alerted harvesters to when the precincts would receive their ballots by mail, so the nice woman with the fruit would know when to have her basket ready.

https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2017/august/how-dallas-city-council-elections-work-fraud-mail-in-ballot/


Much more at the link, for those interested in how a lot of this crap goes down.
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Post by Maddog Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:25 am

In the above case, a social worker registered mentally incapacitated people and then used their ballots.

Not only did the piece of shit commit voter fraud but be committed a disservice to the people he was paid to help.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:24 am

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Well, first of all, I would like to see the OP case you raise, after the trial.  I was serious when I said it sounded like a book club or a coffee klatch.  Context is important, and I think the state will have a hard time convincing a jury that it was really ballot harvesting, and not just a friend helping an elderly person.

Second, it is important to our discussion only because Trump has raised rigged election as his excuse for losing an election of some 150-million votes.  The kind of fraud you raise is not significant enough to change that large an election.  It doesn't have the numbers, and besides, Texas went Republican so why challenge its results.

So if it's not relevant to the magnitude Trump is alleging, and not relevant to this election, why are we even discussing Dallas ballot harvesting?


https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/texas-social-worker-charged-134-counts-election-fraud

MEXIA, Texas (KTXS) – A social worker in Texas has been charged with 134 counts in an election fraud investigation, officials with the Texas Attorney General's Office said.

Attorney General Ken Paxton announced Friday that his Election Fraud Unit and other officials charged Kelly Reagan Brunner, a social worker in the Mexia State Supported Living Center (SSLC), with 134 felony counts of "purportedly acting as an agent and of election fraud."

Brunner allegedly submitted voter registration applications for 67 residents without their signature or effective consent, while purporting to act as their agent.

Seems Texas is on massive criminal enterprise.

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Post by Maddog Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:27 am

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https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/texas-social-worker-charged-134-counts-election-fraud

MEXIA, Texas (KTXS) – A social worker in Texas has been charged with 134 counts in an election fraud investigation, officials with the Texas Attorney General's Office said.

Attorney General Ken Paxton announced Friday that his Election Fraud Unit and other officials charged Kelly Reagan Brunner, a social worker in the Mexia State Supported Living Center (SSLC), with 134 felony counts of "purportedly acting as an agent and of election fraud."

Brunner allegedly submitted voter registration applications for 67 residents without their signature or effective consent, while purporting to act as their agent.

Seems Texas is on massive criminal enterprise.  

Texas looks for and convicts people for voter fraud. Doesn't matter if the race is close.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:44 am

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Seems Texas is on massive criminal enterprise.  

Texas looks for and convicts people for voter fraud.  Doesn't matter if the race is close.

Seems like a lot of crooks and grifters in Texas. If they ever give the world an enema, they will have to stick the hose in Texas somewhere. Where do you suggest? How Dallas Elections Really Work - Page 2 2190311264

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Post by Maddog Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:47 am

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Texas looks for and convicts people for voter fraud.  Doesn't matter if the race is close.

Seems like a lot of crooks and grifters in Texas.  If they ever give the world an enema, they will have to stick the hose in Texas somewhere.  Where do you suggest?  How Dallas Elections Really Work - Page 2 2190311264

Do the cities that issue the most speeding tickets have the most speeders or the least tolerance?
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Post by Original Quill Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:50 am

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Seems like a lot of crooks and grifters in Texas.  If they ever give the world an enema, they will have to stick the hose in Texas somewhere.  Where do you suggest?  How Dallas Elections Really Work - Page 2 2190311264

Do the cities that issue the most speeding tickets have the most speeders or the least tolerance?

In Texas? Yes. But they are mostly black folks.

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Post by Maddog Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:26 pm

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Do the cities that issue the most speeding tickets have the most speeders or the least tolerance?

In Texas?  Yes.  But they are mostly black folks.

Anywhere.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:44 pm

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In Texas?  Yes.  But they are mostly black folks.

Anywhere.  

Denial is a river in east Africa. There's a difference regarding treatment of blacks in Texas. Ask Sandra Bland, Botham Jean or James Byrd, Jr.

You don't see that in Massachusetts.

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Post by Maddog Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:48 pm

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Anywhere.  

Denial is a river in east Africa.  There's a difference regarding treatment of blacks in Texas.  Ask Sandra Bland, Botham Jean or James Byrd, Jr.

You don't see that in Massachusetts.

We are talking about speeding tickets. Do they write them in Massachusetts?
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Post by Original Quill Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:30 pm

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Denial is a river in east Africa.  There's a difference regarding treatment of blacks in Texas.  Ask Sandra Bland, Botham Jean or James Byrd, Jr.

You don't see that in Massachusetts.

We are talking about speeding tickets. Do they write them in Massachusetts?

I see you're avoiding the real point. "Speeding tickets" has gone from a metaphor to the faux topic of concern for you, and that is pretty solid proof that you are ducking. The real point is southern racism, and it won't disappear into the abyss of nothingness as long southernism is showing up in Minneapolis and Kenosha.

However, as avoidance is evidence of surrender, I'll take my winnings and move on.

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