biden running for senate or president??

by inmyopinion Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:03 pm

does he even know, does he even know what day it is.

by Original Quill Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:06 pm

He's pretty good. I liked him in the voters' question format.

by inmyopinion Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:07 pm

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by Maddog Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:24 pm

He's barely there, but unless he strokes out, which is possible, he's going to win.

by inmyopinion Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:29 pm

Maddog wrote:He's barely there, but unless he strokes out, which is possible, he's going to win.

he won't win

by Original Quill Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:38 pm

He will win, but we won't see the real agenda until Harris takes office.

by Maddog Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:21 pm

Original Quill wrote:He will win, but we won't see the real agenda until Harris takes office.

So it's kind of a secret right now eh?

by Original Quill Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:56 am

Why would you call it a secret? I speak of it openly...so should everyone. Biden is a bit out-of-date.

by Maddog Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:08 am

Original Quill wrote:Why would you call it a secret? I speak of it openly...so should everyone. Biden is a bit out-of-date.

Oh, well if you speak of it then that's different. Rolling Eyes

by Tommy Monk Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:14 am

Look at his eyes... his pupils look way too small for normal... and there may well be a good reason for this...

"...People who take opioids may develop pinpoint pupils. Prescription medications that contain opioids are oxycodone, morphine, hydrocodone, codeine and methadone..."

by Eilzel Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:22 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

Look at his eyes... his pupils look way too small for normal... and there may well be a good reason for this...

"...People who take opioids may develop pinpoint pupils. Prescription medications that contain opioids are oxycodone, morphine, hydrocodone, codeine and methadone..."

Pretty sure they are both on stuff tbh. Trump is super low energy sometimes and the next time you see him he's doing his cringy little dances. Not exactly shining a great light on the virtues of democracy having two 70+ year-olds mumbling and whining at each other for the world to see Neutral

by inmyopinion Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:58 am

Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Look at his eyes... his pupils look way too small for normal... and there may well be a good reason for this...

"...People who take opioids may develop pinpoint pupils. Prescription medications that contain opioids are oxycodone, morphine, hydrocodone, codeine and methadone..."

Pretty sure they are both on stuff tbh. Trump is super low energy sometimes and the next time you see him he's doing his cringy little dances. Not exactly shining a great light on the virtues of democracy having two 70+ year-olds mumbling and whining at each other for the world to see

trump functions, he speaks coherently, he answers questions, he looks alive, everything biden cannot do, who in the right mind would vote for whomever the party choose to put in place when the candidate finally breaks down, biden voters must be desperate.lol

by Eilzel Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:10 am

inmyopinion wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Look at his eyes... his pupils look way too small for normal... and there may well be a good reason for this...

"...People who take opioids may develop pinpoint pupils. Prescription medications that contain opioids are oxycodone, morphine, hydrocodone, codeine and methadone..."

Pretty sure they are both on stuff tbh. Trump is super low energy sometimes and the next time you see him he's doing his cringy little dances. Not exactly shining a great light on the virtues of democracy having two 70+ year-olds mumbling and whining at each other for the world to see

trump functions, he speaks coherently, he answers questions, he looks alive, everything biden cannot do, who in the right mind would vote for whomever the party choose to put in place when the candidate finally breaks down, biden voters must be desperate.lol

by inmyopinion Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:34 am

Eilzel wrote:
inmyopinion wrote:

trump functions, he speaks coherently, he answers questions, he looks alive, everything biden cannot do, who in the right mind would vote for whomever the party choose to put in place when the candidate finally breaks down, biden voters must be desperate.lol

yep lefties laugh at the truth.

by Tommy Monk Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:08 pm

From what I hear, Biden royally fukked up in the latest debate and Trump did very well...

Looks like Biden may have sealed his fate in a few key states now and opened left the door wide open to a Trump victory!

And I wouldn't take much notice of any polls showing a democrat victory... Last time round the NY Times ran a story predicting Hillary Clinton had a 85% chance of winning, Reuters/IPSOS said 90% and the ridiculous rag the Huffington post said 98% chance of winning!!!

lol!

by inmyopinion Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:14 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

From what I hear, Biden royally fukked up in the latest debate and Trump did very well...

Looks like Biden may have sealed his fate in a few key states now and opened left the door wide open to a Trump victory!

And I wouldn't take much notice of any polls showing a democrat victory... Last time round the NY Times ran a story predicting Hillary Clinton had a 85% chance of winning, Reuters/IPSOS said 90% and the ridiculous rag the Huffington post said 98% chance of winning!!!

Love it, Trump is the best candidate and will prove to be the best President the USA ever had.

by Maddog Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:26 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

From what I hear, Biden royally fukked up in the latest debate and Trump did very well...

Looks like Biden may have sealed his fate in a few key states now and opened left the door wide open to a Trump victory!

And I wouldn't take much notice of any polls showing a democrat victory... Last time round the NY Times ran a story predicting Hillary Clinton had a 85% chance of winning, Reuters/IPSOS said 90% and the ridiculous rag the Huffington post said 98% chance of winning!!!

Trump did slightly better. Not enough to change anyone's mind.

Look at it this way. Let's say everyone agreed that Biden did better. Would that cause you to vote for him if you could?

Half the country has already voted. The rest have made up their minds. Undecideds are too small a number to matter at this point.

by Original Quill Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:00 pm

Trump's mishandling of the pandemic (quarter-million dead) has already lost him the election.

The huge rise in voter participation means something is afoot. Since a rise in voter participation generally means the electorate is moving to the left, Trump is expecting to lose. Thus, it's my belief he is banking on post-election legal action to give him the win.

by inmyopinion Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:33 pm

Original Quill wrote:Trump's mishandling of the pandemic (quarter-million dead) has already lost him the election.

The huge rise in voter participation means something is afoot. Since a rise in voter participation generally means the electorate is moving to the left, Trump is expecting to lose. Thus, it's my belief he is banking on post-election legal action to give him the win.

Trump will win, fair and square, because he is a great president and the real people will see that.

by Original Quill Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:57 pm

inmyopinion wrote:
Original Quill wrote:Trump's mishandling of the pandemic (quarter-million dead) has already lost him the election.

The huge rise in voter participation means something is afoot. Since a rise in voter participation generally means the electorate is moving to the left, Trump is expecting to lose. Thus, it's my belief he is banking on post-election legal action to give him the win.

Trump will win, fair and square, because he is a great president and the real people will see that.

That's not what the polls say.

by inmyopinion Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:01 pm

Original Quill wrote:
inmyopinion wrote:

Trump will win, fair and square, because he is a great president and the real people will see that.

That's not what the polls say.

they never said it last time, I love reruns, don't you.

by Original Quill Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:08 pm

inmyopinion wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

That's not what the polls say.

they never said it last time, I love reruns, don't you.

Trump lost by 3-million votes last time. He won by the barest margins in the electoral college.

Also, he was the rebel last time. Today, he is the incumbent, and he is visited by a huge problem he is unable to fix. He's a proven failure, let's face it.

by inmyopinion Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:50 pm

Original Quill wrote:
inmyopinion wrote:

they never said it last time, I love reruns, don't you.

Trump lost by 3-million votes last time. He won by the barest margins in the electoral college.

Also, he was the rebel last time. Today, he is the incumbent, and he is visited by a huge problem he is unable to fix. He's a proven failure, let's face it.

oh I love lefty logic, is Trump President, yes, did he win yes, does that pain the righteous lefties oh yeah, I love it when lefties show how much they hate democracy.

by Original Quill Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:55 am

inmyopinion wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Trump lost by 3-million votes last time. He won by the barest margins in the electoral college.

Also, he was the rebel last time. Today, he is the incumbent, and he is visited by a huge problem he is unable to fix. He's a proven failure, let's face it.

oh I love lefty logic, is Trump President, yes, did he win yes, does that pain the righteous lefties oh yeah, I love it when lefties show how much they hate democracy.

Lefties are not the anti-democrats. They are not trying to suppress the vote. They are not the ones behind gerrymandering. Those are RW tricks to keep ethnic groups from voting for the righteous left candidates.

When you have to cheat, you know deep down that you are wrong. Wink

by inmyopinion Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:40 am

Original Quill wrote:
inmyopinion wrote:

oh I love lefty logic, is Trump President, yes, did he win yes, does that pain the righteous lefties oh yeah, I love it when lefties show how much they hate democracy.

Lefties are not the anti-democrats. They are not trying to suppress the vote. They are not the ones behind gerrymandering. Those are RW tricks to keep ethnic groups from voting for the righteous left candidates.

When you have to cheat, you know deep down that you are wrong.

cheat or lie, like losing how many emails.lol yeah the left wing are squeaky clean.
lefties are some of the biggest hypocrites once you scrape the surface of their self righteous bs.

by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:30 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

From what I hear, Biden royally fukked up in the latest debate and Trump did very well...

Looks like Biden may have sealed his fate in a few key states now and opened left the door wide open to a Trump victory!

And I wouldn't take much notice of any polls showing a democrat victory... Last time round the NY Times ran a story predicting Hillary Clinton had a 85% chance of winning, Reuters/IPSOS said 90% and the ridiculous rag the Huffington post said 98% chance of winning!!!

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by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:53 pm

2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President? - The New ...
www.nytimes.com › interactive › upshot
8 Nov 2016 · Hillary Clinton has an 85% chance to win.

Clinton has 90 percent chance of winning: Reuters/Ipsos ...
www.reuters.com › article
7 Nov 2016 · With hours to go before Americans vote, Democrat Hillary Clinton has about a 90 percent ...

HuffPost on Twitter: "Our @pollsterpolls model gives ...
twitter.com › huffpost › status
7 Nov 2016 · Our @pollsterpolls model gives @HillaryClinton a 98.1% chance of winning the presidency ...

Oh dear!!!

lol!

by Original Quill Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:54 pm

inmyopinion wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Lefties are not the anti-democrats. They are not trying to suppress the vote. They are not the ones behind gerrymandering. Those are RW tricks to keep ethnic groups from voting for the righteous left candidates.

When you have to cheat, you know deep down that you are wrong.

cheat or lie, like losing how many emails.lol yeah the left wing are squeaky clean.
lefties are some of the biggest hypocrites once you scrape the surface of their self righteous bs.

More like raping a 13-year old girl, and murdering the host of the party before he turns state's witness. Wink

by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:57 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President? - The New ...
www.nytimes.com › interactive › upshot
8 Nov 2016 · Hillary Clinton has an 85% chance to win.

Clinton has 90 percent chance of winning: Reuters/Ipsos ...
www.reuters.com › article
7 Nov 2016 · With hours to go before Americans vote, Democrat Hillary Clinton has about a 90 percent ...

HuffPost on Twitter: "Our @pollsterpolls model gives ...
twitter.com › huffpost › status
7 Nov 2016 · Our @pollsterpolls model gives @HillaryClinton a 98.1% chance of winning the presidency ...

Oh dear!!!

by eddie Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:09 pm

Im not getting into the intricate politics of it all but I find Biden to be really “stiff”.
I prefer animated people. Probably a minor point, but animation in a person suggests enthusiasm.

by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:20 pm

I've said this before, but maybe I should expand on it a bit more.

In 2016, Trump had no record in public office. Now he has four years as president, and people can and will look at whether he's been good or bad for America. (I'd love to hear people's opinions on how he's been good for America, and I've invited people to list the things he's done to help America, but nobody to my knowlege has taken me up on that.)

The part I haven't really gone into before is that Trump was really poised to become president in 2016. Historically, American political parties rarely hold onto power for more than eight years. After a president has served two terms, usually the opposition party wins. Maybe Americans just like to change things up.

So you take the fact that Trump had no political record to hold against him and the fact that Democrats held the presidency for eight years, and it would have been a historical oddity if Clinton had won the presidency (and of course, she still won the popular vote by a gigantic margin, more than the population of Chicago).

Now, Trump and the Republicans are trying and will try everything they can to win the 2020 election. Trump appointed a friend to run the postal service who deliberately slowed down the post, making mail-in voting harder during a pandemic.

Republicans have created fake ballot boxes, hoping to throw away as many Democratic ballots as possible.

Trump has said that mail voting will lead to rampant voter fraud with no evidence to back up that claim. He's said he may not accept it if he loses. Republicans plan to send operatives to polling stations to try to intimidate voters.

But this election won't be like the 2016 election. People will see how Trump tried to take away their healthcare, how he failed to fulfill a single campaign promise, how he divided the country unlike any president in modern history, and of course, they'll see his inept response to the pandemic.

They won't be inspired by Biden, but they'll be so desperate to rid the country of the thick fog of nastiness that Trump has brought upon America that they'll vote for anybody else.

by Maddog Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:55 am

eddie wrote:Im not getting into the intricate politics of it all but I find Biden to be really “stiff”.
I prefer animated people. Probably a minor point, but animation in a person suggests enthusiasm.

It's hard to be animated at his age. He's lucky to be vertical.

by Maddog Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:03 am

Ben Reilly wrote:I've said this before, but maybe I should expand on it a bit more.

In 2016, Trump had no record in public office. Now he has four years as president, and people can and will look at whether he's been good or bad for America. (I'd love to hear people's opinions on how he's been good for America, and I've invited people to list the things he's done to help America, but nobody to my knowlege has taken me up on that.)

The part I haven't really gone into before is that Trump was really poised to become president in 2016. Historically, American political parties rarely hold onto power for more than eight years. After a president has served two terms, usually the opposition party wins. Maybe Americans just like to change things up.

So you take the fact that Trump had no political record to hold against him and the fact that Democrats held the presidency for eight years, and it would have been a historical oddity if Clinton had won the presidency (and of course, she still won the popular vote by a gigantic margin, more than the population of Chicago).

Now, Trump and the Republicans are trying and will try everything they can to win the 2020 election. Trump appointed a friend to run the postal service who deliberately slowed down the post, making mail-in voting harder during a pandemic.

Republicans have created fake ballot boxes, hoping to throw away as many Democratic ballots as possible.

Trump has said that mail voting will lead to rampant voter fraud with no evidence to back up that claim. He's said he may not accept it if he loses. Republicans plan to send operatives to polling stations to try to intimidate voters.

But this election won't be like the 2016 election. People will see how Trump tried to take away their healthcare, how he failed to fulfill a single campaign promise, how he divided the country unlike any president in modern history, and of course, they'll see his inept response to the pandemic.

They won't be inspired by Biden, but they'll be so desperate to rid the country of the thick fog of nastiness that Trump has brought upon America that they'll vote for anybody else.

Trumps problem is he a bit of a sociopath and sucks at hiding it. People have just grown tired of him. Couple that with Biden being more likable than Hillary, even if he doesn't know what day it is and it's not hard to see why Biden will win. The polls were off a couple of points last time. Biden has way more than two points of lead in the states that he needs. He should have ran last time. He would have probably beat Trump and could have served a whole term.

by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:08 am

Thing about polls is... they are based on a very small number of people giving an answer... and lots of them don't necessarily give an honest answer to the questions asked...

by Original Quill Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:13 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Thing about polls is... they are based on a very small number of people giving an answer... and lots of them don't necessarily give an honest answer to the questions asked...

Same with the electoral college.

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:37 am

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:40 am

Were Trump to lose Texas, that would be monumentally embarrassing.

by Eilzel Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:08 am

Ben Reilly wrote:Were Trump to lose Texas, that would be monumentally embarrassing.

It's a slim hope, but a real one.

More reassuring is what it means for Biden's chances that so many former Republican strongholds are absolutely competitive this time round.

If Biden loses, the pollsters are finished.

by Ben Reilly Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:01 pm

It must also mean that for a good number of conservatives, Trumpism has gone too far. Texas Republicans would probably be happy to vote for someone like Pence, or even Sarah Palin circa 2008. Trump is simply too incompetent and too nasty.

by Maddog Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:17 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:Were Trump to lose Texas, that would be monumentally embarrassing.

It's a slim hope, but a real one.

More reassuring is what it means for Biden's chances that so many former Republican strongholds are absolutely competitive this time round.

If Biden loses, the pollsters are finished.

I rode around N Dallas yesterday. If yard signs are an indicator, the wealthy in Texas are not voting for Trump. It was startling how lopsided the signs were.

Of course there are a lot of Trump supporters that don't want the hassle that can come with putting a Trump sign in the yard.

But I sense a pretty strong shift towards Biden this time around.

I think the more important question is the Senate. If the Republicans can keep 51 (which is looking doubtful) they can keep Crazy Joe in check.

by Original Quill Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:10 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:It must also mean that for a good number of conservatives, Trumpism has gone too far. Texas Republicans would probably be happy to vote for someone like Pence, or even Sarah Palin circa 2008. Trump is simply too incompetent and too nasty.

Meh...I disagree. The Republican Party is all a bunch of old people that the world is waiting to die off. I don't mean to sound vindictive or cruel, but death is a part of life.

The Republicans, after the monumental failure of 2008, rejected proposals to bring themselves up-to-date...to move themselves along with the leftward trend of the general public. "The party can't continue only appealing to one segment of the population," said Art Martinez de Vara, a Texas Republican activist who is Hispanic and was the mayor of Von Ormy, a small town near San Antonio. In resisting a natural tendency toward evolution, they dug their own grave.

Conservatives, whether Republican or Tory, are basically undemocratic, which means they don't pay much credence to the people. After all, as Nobel laureate F. A. Hayek noted, conservatives are married to conserving...they don't subscribe to any plan or program, except steadfastly standing in place. Their mindset becomes rigid, while the world keep on turning. Pretty soon, they go the way of the setting sun.

People keep hoping--musing, really--that Republicans are not dying. That would mean that the 2-party system is dying. Nobody intends for the 2-party system to die, but people do intend to move past the ideas that Republicans promote (ie, anti-LGBT, anti-abortion, anti-black, anti-immigrant, white-nationalism). By refusing to move on, Republicans put the tension on themselves.

Republicans are themselves, de facto pushing for the end of the 2-party system in America. Like a crazed lover in some 1930's Hollywood melodrama, Republicans are holding a gun to America, shouting: if I can't have her, no one can have her!! One hopes that another lover will come along soon...a new party to replace the crazy one that refuses to budge, and rescues America. Then, let the crazed old man drift away in heavenly eternity.

Trump craziness is the result of the tension that Republicans are placing on America, because of their refusal to change. It can’t continue. The 1950’s are gone, Ike is no longer president, and we have been to the moon and back. We can’t make America great again, or white again, or some colorless suburbia that looks forward to electric can openers, and blissfully ignores pandemics or climate changes. Nor can a Republican Party go on without bending to the times. It will either change, or it will cause America to die, or itself die and move out of the way.

by Original Quill Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:15 pm

Maddog wrote:Of course there are a lot of Trump supporters that don't want the hassle that can come with putting a Trump sign in the yard.

Which is a pretty telling indicator, itself. If the temper of the times is that: pro-Trump = hassle...then the sentiment is decidedly pro-Biden.

by Maddog Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:22 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:Of course there are a lot of Trump supporters that don't want the hassle that can come with putting a Trump sign in the yard.

Which is a pretty telling indicator, itself. If the temper of the times is that: pro-Trump = hassle...then the sentiment is decidedly pro-Biden.

Could indicate a lot of things about the current state of affairs in this country.

by Original Quill Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:35 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Which is a pretty telling indicator, itself. If the temper of the times is that: pro-Trump = hassle...then the sentiment is decidedly pro-Biden.

Could indicate a lot of things about the current state of affairs in this country.

True. A fuller expression of my assessment is above.

by Eilzel Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:36 pm

Maddog wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:Were Trump to lose Texas, that would be monumentally embarrassing.

It's a slim hope, but a real one.

More reassuring is what it means for Biden's chances that so many former Republican strongholds are absolutely competitive this time round.

If Biden loses, the pollsters are finished.

I rode around N Dallas yesterday. If yard signs are an indicator, the wealthy in Texas are not voting for Trump. It was startling how lopsided the signs were.

Of course there are a lot of Trump supporters that don't want the hassle that can come with putting a Trump sign in the yard.

But I sense a pretty strong shift towards Biden this time around.

I think the more important question is the Senate. If the Republicans can keep 51 (which is looking doubtful) they can keep Crazy Joe in check.

Does an opposition house really keep the president in check in 2020? The just seemed to obstruct Obama at every turn.

I'd prefer a blue wave across all 3 parts of the US government.

by Maddog Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:46 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I rode around N Dallas yesterday. If yard signs are an indicator, the wealthy in Texas are not voting for Trump. It was startling how lopsided the signs were.

Of course there are a lot of Trump supporters that don't want the hassle that can come with putting a Trump sign in the yard.

But I sense a pretty strong shift towards Biden this time around.

I think the more important question is the Senate. If the Republicans can keep 51 (which is looking doubtful) they can keep Crazy Joe in check.

Does an opposition house really keep the president in check in 2020? The just seemed to obstruct Obama at every turn.

I'd prefer a blue wave across all 3 parts of the US government.

They slow down legislation. They require deals and concessions to be made. Or at least they used to. Obstruction isn't bad either.

Won't be a blue wave in the courts. They are set for some time.

I think down deep inside, McConnel knew that Trump was going to lose either way, so getting that next seat on the SC is even more important to stop some "inventive" legislation.

by Eilzel Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:37 pm

Maddog wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I rode around N Dallas yesterday. If yard signs are an indicator, the wealthy in Texas are not voting for Trump. It was startling how lopsided the signs were.

Of course there are a lot of Trump supporters that don't want the hassle that can come with putting a Trump sign in the yard.

But I sense a pretty strong shift towards Biden this time around.

I think the more important question is the Senate. If the Republicans can keep 51 (which is looking doubtful) they can keep Crazy Joe in check.

Does an opposition house really keep the president in check in 2020? The just seemed to obstruct Obama at every turn.

I'd prefer a blue wave across all 3 parts of the US government.

They slow down legislation. They require deals and concessions to be made. Or at least they used to. Obstruction isn't bad either.

Won't be a blue wave in the courts. They are set for some time.

I think down deep inside, McConnel knew that Trump was going to lose either way, so getting that next seat on the SC is even more important to stop some "inventive" legislation.

Yeah sorry I meant the Presidency and both houses of Congress. I agree on the SC. Honestly that institution should not be lifelong, wouldn't be surprised if changes were made there.

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