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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:22 am

A popular myth is that vaccines are simply a way for pharmaceutical companies to make money. That is false. Vaccines are not huge profit-makers for pharmaceutical companies. In fact, these companies make their profits by selling drugs that treat diseases. For example, sales of the Sovaldi drug for Hepatitis C—just one treatment by one pharmaceutical company for one disease sold almost entirely in the United States— exceeded more than $10 billion in one year.

In comparison, the global total sales of all vaccines—for adults and children by all pharmaceutical companies that produce vaccines—was just $24 billion in one year. The $24 billion vaccine market seems large but represents only 2% to 3% of a trillion-dollar, worldwide pharmaceutical industry.

Another point of comparison is the global alternative medicine market. That market, which includes homeopathic remedies and various supplements, powders, and teas, is a $34 billion industry, even though only one-third of the treatments have been tested.

If pharmaceutical companies merely wanted to increase their profit margins, they would stop manufacturing vaccines and focus only on developing and selling drugs and alternative medicines.

http://www.boostoregon.org/arent-vaccines-just-moneymakers-for-pharmaceutical-companies

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Post by inmyopinion on Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:25 am

Ben Reilly wrote:A popular myth is that vaccines are simply a way for pharmaceutical companies to make money. That is false. Vaccines are not huge profit-makers for pharmaceutical companies. In fact, these companies make their profits by selling drugs that treat diseases. For example, sales of the Sovaldi drug for Hepatitis C—just one treatment by one pharmaceutical company for one disease sold almost entirely in the United States— exceeded more than $10 billion in one year.

In comparison, the global total sales of all vaccines—for adults and children by all pharmaceutical companies that produce vaccines—was just $24 billion in one year. The $24 billion vaccine market seems large but represents only 2% to 3% of a trillion-dollar, worldwide pharmaceutical industry.

Another point of comparison is the global alternative medicine market. That market, which includes homeopathic remedies and various supplements, powders, and teas, is a $34 billion industry, even though only one-third of the treatments have been tested.

If pharmaceutical companies merely wanted to increase their profit margins, they would stop manufacturing vaccines and focus only on developing and selling drugs and alternative medicines.

http://www.boostoregon.org/arent-vaccines-just-moneymakers-for-pharmaceutical-companies

You are kidding, in the case of covid the first company to nail down a vaccine and make quantities of said vaccine will make billions.

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Post by Eilzel on Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:25 am

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Ben Reilly wrote:A popular myth is that vaccines are simply a way for pharmaceutical companies to make money. That is false. Vaccines are not huge profit-makers for pharmaceutical companies. In fact, these companies make their profits by selling drugs that treat diseases. For example, sales of the Sovaldi drug for Hepatitis C—just one treatment by one pharmaceutical company for one disease sold almost entirely in the United States— exceeded more than $10 billion in one year.

In comparison, the global total sales of all vaccines—for adults and children by all pharmaceutical companies that produce vaccines—was just $24 billion in one year. The $24 billion vaccine market seems large but represents only 2% to 3% of a trillion-dollar, worldwide pharmaceutical industry.

Another point of comparison is the global alternative medicine market. That market, which includes homeopathic remedies and various supplements, powders, and teas, is a $34 billion industry, even though only one-third of the treatments have been tested.

If pharmaceutical companies merely wanted to increase their profit margins, they would stop manufacturing vaccines and focus only on developing and selling drugs and alternative medicines.

http://www.boostoregon.org/arent-vaccines-just-moneymakers-for-pharmaceutical-companies

You are kidding, in the case of covid the first company to nail down a vaccine and make quantities of said vaccine will make billions.

You're missing the point. A vaccine if successful needs to be taken only once. If the creators of vaccines just wanted to make money they'd create a treatment you'd need to use indefinitely.

Give a man a vaccine, he needs to go to the doctor once. Create a form of medication, and they'll be coming back for the rest of their lives.

We need a vaccine. It may be years before we have one and we may never get one. We should imo move on without it as best we can. But we need one.

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Post by Syl on Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:09 pm

Hopefully, if a virus is never found, Corvid 19 will just disappear as quickly as it came like SARS did.
A virus was never found for that, even though it was classed as a pandemic.
Amazingly, SARS only ever killed a recorded 774 people globally.

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Post by inmyopinion on Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:44 pm

Eilzel wrote:
inmyopinion wrote:

You are kidding, in the case of covid the first company to nail down a vaccine and make quantities of said vaccine will make billions.

You're missing the point. A vaccine if successful needs to be taken only once. If the creators of vaccines just wanted to make money they'd create a treatment you'd need to use indefinitely.

Give a man a vaccine, he needs to go to the doctor once. Create a form of medication, and they'll be coming back for the rest of their lives.

We need a vaccine. It may be years before we have one and we may never get one. We should imo move on without it as best we can. But we need one.

so why are flu vaccines taken every year.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:49 pm

But IMO, your alternative medicine industry is far more lucrative than vaccines. If vaccination is only about making money, the big pharmaceutical companies are stupid, and should switch to selling herbal tea, as that's more profitable than vaccines.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:04 pm

Syl wrote:Hopefully, if a virus is never found, Corvid 19 will just disappear as quickly as it came like SARS did.

What on earth would make it go away?  As physicists say: In the absence of a counter-force, a body will continue on its course infinitely.

Syl wrote:A virus was never found for [SARS], even though it was classed as a pandemic.
Amazingly, SARS only ever killed a recorded  774 people globally.

Covid-19 is a SARS virus variant.  Viruses are very good at mutating.  That's one of the reasons why I think Covid-19 may be here to stay.  It might also turn out to be a microbe that attacks immune cells, like AIDS.  It may never disappear.

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Post by Syl on Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:15 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:Hopefully, if a virus is never found, Corvid 19 will just disappear as quickly as it came like SARS did.

What on earth would make it go away?  As physicists say: In the absence of a counter-force, a body will continue on its course infinitely.

Well SARS did.

Syl wrote:A virus was never found for [SARS], even though it was classed as a pandemic.
Amazingly, SARS only ever killed a recorded  774 people globally.

Covid-19 is a SARS virus variant.  Viruses are very good at mutating.  That's one of the reasons why I think Covid-19 may be here to stay.  It might also turn out to be a microbe that attacks immune cells, like AIDS.  It may never disappear.

This latest virus apparently doesn't behave in the same way as previous viruses does it?
That's why there has been so much uncertainty about how best to handle it.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:37 pm

Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

What on earth would make it go away? As physicists say: In the absence of a counter-force, a body will continue on its course infinitely.

Well SARS did.



Covid-19 is a SARS virus variant. Viruses are very good at mutating. That's one of the reasons why I think Covid-19 may be here to stay. It might also turn out to be a microbe that attacks immune cells, like AIDS. It may never disappear.

This latest virus apparently doesn't behave in the same way as previous viruses does it?
That's why there has been so much uncertainty about how best to handle it.

Unfortunately, SARS did not go away. It morphed into the corona virus series, of which Covid-19 is one.

I am afraid it may never go away, for two reasons: (1) it will mutate faster than vaccines may be found, as has happened with the flu; and (2) it may morph into, or has already developed a human immunodeficiency capacity, such as AIDS.

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Post by Didgee on Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:29 pm

inmyopinion wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

You're missing the point. A vaccine if successful needs to be taken only once. If the creators of vaccines just wanted to make money they'd create a treatment you'd need to use indefinitely.

Give a man a vaccine, he needs to go to the doctor once. Create a form of medication, and they'll be coming back for the rest of their lives.

We need a vaccine. It may be years before we have one and we may never get one. We should imo move on without it as best we can. But we need one.

so why are flu vaccines taken every year.

You do realise the flu vaccines change every year?

The flu vaccine is changed very year because of one major factor you do not believe in

Evolution

The flu continually evolves, hence so does the vaccines to combat them

That is why any covid 19 vaccine will be very helpful but will need to adapt each year

As we have seen covid 19 is already adapting

That is evolution and why a vaccine is our best chance of combating this, as we do with flu

Also vaccines are not very profitable for a number of reasons

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Post by inmyopinion on Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:12 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:But IMO, your alternative medicine industry is far more lucrative than vaccines. If vaccination is only about making money, the big pharmaceutical companies are stupid, and should switch to selling herbal tea, as that's more profitable than vaccines.

my alternative medicines, right, I forgot about those.lol

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Post by inmyopinion on Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:14 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:Hopefully, if a virus is never found, Corvid 19 will just disappear as quickly as it came like SARS did.

What on earth would make it go away?  As physicists say: In the absence of a counter-force, a body will continue on its course infinitely.

Syl wrote:A virus was never found for [SARS], even though it was classed as a pandemic.
Amazingly, SARS only ever killed a recorded  774 people globally.

Covid-19 is a SARS virus variant.  Viruses are very good at mutating.  That's one of the reasons why I think Covid-19 may be here to stay.  It might also turn out to be a microbe that attacks immune cells, like AIDS.  It may never disappear.

If they are good at mutating it won't be a one off vaccine, Ben needs to know.

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Post by inmyopinion on Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:18 pm

Didgee wrote:
inmyopinion wrote:

so why are flu vaccines taken every year.

You do realise the flu vaccines change every year?

The flu vaccine is changed very year because of one major factor you do not believe in

Evolution

The flu continually evolves, hence so does the vaccines to combat them

That is why any covid 19 vaccine will be very helpful but will need to adapt each year

As we have seen covid 19 is already adapting

That is evolution and why a vaccine is our best chance of combating this, as we do with flu

Also vaccines are not very profitable for a number of reasons

the covid vaccine will be hugely profitable as every country will be paying mr gates it will also be very profitable as a control tool.
PS I know viruses mutate I think Ben does not.
PPS adaption and evolution are not the same thing.
PPPS virus adapting is often due to human engineering.

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Post by Syl on Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:47 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:

This latest virus apparently doesn't behave in the same way as previous viruses does it?
That's why there has been so much uncertainty about how best to handle it.

Unfortunately, SARS did not go away.  It morphed into the corona virus series, of which Covid-19 is one.

I am afraid it may never go away, for two reasons: (1) it will mutate faster than vaccines may be found, as has happened with the flu; and (2) it may morph into, or has already developed a human immunodeficiency capacity, such as AIDS.


But eight months after SARS began circulating, it was contained. The virus died out.
The stamping out of SARS has been lauded as one of the biggest recent public health victories, achieved with a strong and swift response and a dose of good luck.



https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-18/sars-coronavirus-china-epidemic

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Post by Didgee on Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:11 am

inmyopinion wrote:
Didgee wrote:

You do realise the flu vaccines change every year?

The flu vaccine is changed very year because of one major factor you do not believe in

Evolution

The flu continually evolves, hence so does the vaccines to combat them

That is why any covid 19 vaccine will be very helpful but will need to adapt each year

As we have seen covid 19 is already adapting

That is evolution and why a vaccine is our best chance of combating this, as we do with flu

Also vaccines are not very profitable for a number of reasons

the covid vaccine will be hugely profitable as every country will be paying mr gates it will also be very profitable as a control tool.
PS I know viruses mutate I think Ben does not.
PPS adaption and evolution are not the same thing.
PPPS virus adapting is often due to human engineering.

There are over 160 vaccinations programmes

There are over the same many mutations of covid 19

This is evolution

The virus adpats

Hence the vaccine will be like the flu vaccine

Predictive and still saving many lives, but not all lives

This is about reducing risks

There will never be a cure all vaccine here and why it will never be profitable

Just as the flu vaccine is not profitable but save countless lives who receive it

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Post by inmyopinion on Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:59 am

Didgee wrote:
inmyopinion wrote:

the covid vaccine will be hugely profitable as every country will be paying mr gates it will also be very profitable as a control tool.
PS I know viruses mutate I think Ben does not.
PPS adaption and evolution are not the same thing.
PPPS virus adapting is often due to human engineering.

There are over 160 vaccinations programmes

There are over the same many mutations of covid 19

This is evolution

The virus adpats

Hence the vaccine will be like the flu vaccine

Predictive and still saving many lives, but not all lives

This is about reducing risks

There will never be a cure all vaccine here and why it will never be profitable

Just as the flu vaccine is not profitable but save countless lives who receive it

No it adapts, you could argue it's adaption is due to man made interference, both in and outside the lab.
So will you please tell Ben a single vaccine would not see covid off, so it's worth as a vaccine and a future control device is priceless,thanks.

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Post by inmyopinion on Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:02 am

Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Unfortunately, SARS did not go away.  It morphed into the corona virus series, of which Covid-19 is one.

I am afraid it may never go away, for two reasons: (1) it will mutate faster than vaccines may be found, as has happened with the flu; and (2) it may morph into, or has already developed a human immunodeficiency capacity, such as AIDS.


But eight months after SARS began circulating, it was contained. The virus died out.
The stamping out of SARS has been lauded as one of the biggest recent public health victories, achieved with a strong and swift response and a dose of good luck.



https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-18/sars-coronavirus-china-epidemic

But tis time it is about control not cure, peope like quill want to see those who will not take the vaccine penalised, probably to where they can go and what they can buy, so the vaccine and what ever they want to put in it becomes the ultimate control tool, tis plan has been around a long time.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:08 am

I know viruses mutate. That's why pharmaceutical companies have to create new vaccines all the time. That's another reason vaccines aren't very profitable - companies can't just make one and sell it year after year.

People tend to not manipulate viruses and release them into nature, no matter how many Bond films they've seen.

Adaptation and evolution are synonymous.

Alternative medicine is a more profitable industry than vaccines.


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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:10 am

inmyopinion wrote:
Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Unfortunately, SARS did not go away.  It morphed into the corona virus series, of which Covid-19 is one.

I am afraid it may never go away, for two reasons: (1) it will mutate faster than vaccines may be found, as has happened with the flu; and (2) it may morph into, or has already developed a human immunodeficiency capacity, such as AIDS.


But eight months after SARS began circulating, it was contained. The virus died out.
The stamping out of SARS has been lauded as one of the biggest recent public health victories, achieved with a strong and swift response and a dose of good luck.



https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-18/sars-coronavirus-china-epidemic

But tis time it is about control not cure, peope like quill want to see those who will not take the vaccine penalised, probably to where they can go and what they can buy, so the vaccine and what ever they want to put in it becomes the ultimate control tool, tis plan has been around a long time.

Do you have any evidence to support these dramatic claims?

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Post by inmyopinion on Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:27 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
inmyopinion wrote:

But tis time it is about control not cure, peope like quill want to see those who will not take the vaccine penalised, probably to where they can go and what they can buy, so the vaccine and what ever they want to put in it becomes the ultimate control tool, tis plan has been around a long time.

Do you have any evidence to support these dramatic claims?

only common sense and logic but that used to be enough when we thought for ourselves.

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Post by inmyopinion on Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:31 am

Ben Reilly wrote:I know viruses mutate. That's why pharmaceutical companies have to create new vaccines all the time. That's another reason vaccines aren't very profitable - companies can't just make one and sell it year after year.

People tend to not manipulate viruses and release them into nature, no matter how many Bond films they've seen.

Adaptation and evolution are synonymous.

Alternative medicine is a more profitable industry than vaccines.

No evolution just covers the idea of change, while adaption is about changing to better match an enviroment, It's probably why we have two different words for it.
depending on ifyou are talking profit from the direct buying and selling, now it we put a cost to an item that every person on the planet now and forever more will need and the price on haing total control of said people I think the vaccine wins hands down, don't you.

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Post by Didgee on Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:29 pm

inmyopinion wrote:
Didgee wrote:

There are over 160 vaccinations programmes

There are over the same many mutations of covid 19

This is evolution

The virus adpats

Hence the vaccine will be like the flu vaccine

Predictive and still saving many lives, but not all lives

This is about reducing risks

There will never be a cure all vaccine here and why it will never be profitable

Just as the flu vaccine is not profitable but save countless lives who receive it

No it adapts, you could argue it's adaption is due to man made interference, both in and outside the lab.
So will you please tell Ben a single vaccine would not see covid off, so it's worth as a vaccine and a future control device is priceless,thanks.

You could argue that, but how would you argue that when life formed before humans even walked the earth?

It was from these very viruses that life began top flourish

I agree a single covid vaccine will not see covid 19 off. Only a cure would do that

Any vaccine will however save millions of lives

Because the more who end up being immune by said injections, ensure those vulnerable are far better protected from this virus

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:17 pm

inmyopinion wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
inmyopinion wrote:

But tis time it is about control not cure, peope like quill want to see those who will not take the vaccine penalised, probably to where they can go and what they can buy, so the vaccine and what ever they want to put in it becomes the ultimate control tool, tis plan has been around a long time.

Do you have any evidence to support these dramatic claims?

only common sense and logic but that used to be enough when we thought for ourselves.

If you think it's only common sense that a medicine will be used to control the world population, then you and I have a very different definition of common sense.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:20 pm

Evolution is what we call it when a mutation enables a living thing to better adapt to its environment.

Sometimes mutations become adaptations - if they help the being.

Other mutations are harmful, or neutral.

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Post by inmyopinion on Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:57 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
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only common sense and logic but that used to be enough when we thought for ourselves.

If you think it's only common sense that a medicine will be used to control the world population, then you and I have a very different definition of common sense.

just look for yourself,the mask wearing, the self isolation, curfews, limited numbers, the control is already there, the next obvious step is vaccine clearance to go back to "normal" or the new normal, nothing will ever be the same, everyone registered to prove they had the vaccine or"no going out for yu until you do", it's so simple and has been set as a potential strategy for ever.

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Post by eddie on Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:57 pm

IMO I think you may be tarring all vaccines with the same brush. In some ways I’m with you on the whole vaccine thing, but some vaccines are just there for non-profit and simple safety. Do I believe in the flu jab for everyone, including healthy kids? Hell no! But you cannot say ALL vaccines are there for profit.

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