Trump tax returns: President paid virtually no income tax, lost tens of millions of dollars

President Donald Trump paid just $750 in federal income taxes the year he ran for president and in his first year in the White House, according to a report Sunday in The New York Times.

Trump, who has fiercely guarded his tax filings and is the only president in modern times not to make them public, paid no federal income taxes in 10 of the past 15 years.

The details of the tax filings complicate Trump’s description of himself as a shrewd and patriotic businessman, revealing instead a series of financial losses and income from abroad that could come into conflict with his responsibilities as president. The president’s financial disclosures indicated he earned at least $434.9 million in 2018, but the tax filings reported a $47.4 million loss.

Unverified source so could see be just made up waffle...but even so... You don't pay tax on losses.

lots of companies don't pay any tax Amazon, Costa and does making a loss make you a bad president, obama went up millions while he was president, that would worry me more.

President Donald Trump personally holds $421 million in debt and loans that are largely coming due in the next four years, The New York Times reported Sunday after obtaining more than two decades of his long-sought tax returns.

An ongoing audit by the Internal Revenue Service, meanwhile, could cost Trump more than $100 million.

The Times report also revealed that the president’s vast business interests created potential and real conflicts of interest for years and are under more financial stress than the self-described billionaire has previously disclosed.

Obama's wealth was proven to have come from sales of his books.

The New York Times’s explosive report on President Donald Trump’s years of alleged tax avoidance also exposed another secret: the cost of his coif. 

The Times says Trump’s unmistakable hairdo is a five-figure affair. 

The newspaper reports that when Trump hosted “The Apprentice,” he wrote off $70,000 in hairstyling costs; and that nine Trump entities have written off payments of close to $95,000 for “a favorite hair and makeup artist of Ivanka Trump.”

Ben Reilly wrote:The New York Times’s explosive report on President Donald Trump’s years of alleged tax avoidance also exposed another secret: the cost of his coif. 

The Times says Trump’s unmistakable hairdo is a five-figure affair. 

The newspaper reports that when Trump hosted “The Apprentice,” he wrote off $70,000 in hairstyling costs; and that nine Trump entities have written off payments of close to $95,000 for “a favorite hair and makeup artist of Ivanka Trump.”

and that is any different to amazon, costa and all the others avoiding tax why?
again obama going to worth 20 times more is far more concerning.

Can anyone really be surprised that he is a bent bastard?

Syl wrote:Can anyone really be surprised that he is a bent bastard?

AND KILLARY, OBAMA AND BIDEN ARE NOT.

The Times also said he has used “questionable measures” to reduce his tax bill. He faced a possible hit of “more than $100m” if he lost “a decade-long audit battle with the IRS over the legitimacy of a $72.9m tax refund that he claimed, and received, after declaring huge losses”.

It promised more stories in the coming weeks, adding: “The tax returns that Mr Trump has long fought to keep private tell a story fundamentally different from the one he has sold to the American public.”

This might prove two things that some of us have known for years. Politicians write tax codes that have loopholes for the wealthy, in exchange for donations and other perks from the wealthy.

Secondly, Trump isn't nearly as wealthy or successful as he has led on.

I say "might" because the media cant be trusted to only share stories they can verify anymore.

They have become advocates for politicians and ideologies instead of simply the truth.

inmyopinion wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:The New York Times’s explosive report on President Donald Trump’s years of alleged tax avoidance also exposed another secret: the cost of his coif.

The Times says Trump’s unmistakable hairdo is a five-figure affair.

The newspaper reports that when Trump hosted “The Apprentice,” he wrote off $70,000 in hairstyling costs; and that nine Trump entities have written off payments of close to $95,000 for “a favorite hair and makeup artist of Ivanka Trump.”

and that is any different to amazon, costa and all the others avoiding tax why?
again obama going to worth 20 times more is far more concerning.

Amazon and Costa are not presidents. They are corporations. Only individuals may run for office in the US. Public corporations have to publish their records, individuals do not.

The $421-million that Trump owes (probably understated, as he is wont to do on tax returns per his attorney), is leverage that makes him susceptible to blackmail. In fact, it probably accounts for his sycophancy toward Russia and Vladimir Putin, clearly evident in Helsinki in July, 2018.

$421-million is very near the original sum that is alleged to have been loaned to Trump initially through the Deutsche Bank, Moscow branch. See, Harding, Luke, Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and how Russia Helped Donald Trump Win (2017).

Something is rotten in Den…no, Moscow.

inmyopinion wrote:

Syl wrote:Can anyone really be surprised that he is a bent bastard?

AND KILLARY, OBAMA AND BIDEN ARE NOT.

He is the president at this present time not them....and it's his taxes that are being investigated.

inmyopinion wrote:

Syl wrote:Can anyone really be surprised that he is a bent bastard?

AND KILLARY, OBAMA AND BIDEN ARE NOT.

No.  No allegations have been made against Obama and Biden.  And investigators have looked into Clinton and found nothing. All three are clean as a whistle.

hang on

i swear everyone was demanding to see his taxes when he first became president

there was an almighty hoo har about it and eventually his tax returns were produced

rachael maddow kept her audience waiting for ages and then,,,,,,a bit fat nothing burger,,,,,,apparently everything was in order

surely i didn't dream all that

gelico wrote:

hang on

i swear everyone was demanding to see his taxes when he first became president

there was an almighty hoo har about it and eventually his tax returns were produced

rachael maddow kept her audience waiting for ages and then,,,,,,a bit fat nothing burger,,,,,,apparently everything was in order

surely i didn't dream all that

don't going stopping all the Trump haters with facts.

gelico wrote:

hang on

i swear everyone was demanding to see his taxes when he first became president

there was an almighty hoo har about it and eventually his tax returns were produced

rachael maddow kept her audience waiting for ages and then,,,,,,a bit fat nothing burger,,,,,,apparently everything was in order

surely i didn't dream all that

Nah, he's never produced them.

I remember Maddow having some giant surprise that fizzled. Maybe she was promising to produce them?

Maddog wrote:

gelico wrote:

hang on

i swear everyone was demanding to see his taxes when he first became president

there was an almighty hoo har about it and eventually his tax returns were produced

rachael maddow kept her audience waiting for ages and then,,,,,,a bit fat nothing burger,,,,,,apparently everything was in order

surely i didn't dream all that

Nah, he's never produced them.  

I remember Maddow having some giant surprise that fizzled. Maybe she was promising to produce them?

yes, she said she had something to reveal about his tax return

she was reading out 2005 tax return details

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eB-xjDMGdQ

Teachers paid $7,239
Firefighters paid $5,283
Nurses paid $10,216

Donald Trump paid $750 https://t.co/5YE1cbYsBN

gelico wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Nah, he's never produced them.  

I remember Maddow having some giant surprise that fizzled. Maybe she was promising to produce them?

yes, she said she had something to reveal about his tax return

she was reading out 2005 tax return details

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eB-xjDMGdQ

"In March 2017, journalist [and attorney] David Cay Johnston obtained the first two pages of Trump's 2005 federal income tax returns; they were disclosed to Rachel Maddow and shown on MSNBC. The document states that Trump had a gross adjusted income of $150 million and paid $38 million in federal taxes. The White House confirmed the authenticity of these documents."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_returns_of_Donald_Trump

gelico wrote:...a bit fat nothing burger,,,,,,apparently everything was in order

Not quite.  The entire investigation of a person’s financial wrongdoing involves a host of laws, and a host of documents.  Primarily the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and Federal Reserve System (FRS) are interested…perhaps other agencies as well.  Only infrequently, and by chance, do they share information.  So no one is focusing on an individual’s complete financial profile to check for inconsistancies.

The allegation is that Trump lied and understated income on his tax returns, but lied and overstated worth to obtain bank loans.  Both acts are against the law.  So, there are several laws, and multiple documents to review.  In the unique case of Donald Trump, only a public review will find all of the crimes.

The Tax Returns are the starting point.  In 2016, Trump chose to make tax returns the 'Custer's last stand' in his fight to keep his finances secret.  The tax returns give one a roadmap of his financial picture, as well as any tax cheating.  But only with cross-referencing the several documents in back-up will one find the cheating in all and every area of the law.

So no, gelico, nothing is "in order".  The investigation has only just begun with release of the tax returns.

Ben Reilly wrote:Teachers paid $7,239
Firefighters paid $5,283
Nurses paid $10,216

Donald Trump paid $750 https://t.co/5YE1cbYsBN

You would think one of the two parties in charge would do something about that.

Original Quill wrote:

gelico wrote:

yes, she said she had something to reveal about his tax return

she was reading out 2005 tax return details

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eB-xjDMGdQ

"In March 2017, journalist [and attorney] David Cay Johnston obtained the first two pages of Trump's 2005 federal income tax returns; they were disclosed to Rachel Maddow and shown on MSNBC. The document states that Trump had a gross adjusted income of $150 million and paid $38 million in federal taxes. The White House confirmed the authenticity of these documents."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_returns_of_Donald_Trump

Ok, two pages of a 12 year old return were produced.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

"In March 2017, journalist [and attorney] David Cay Johnston obtained the first two pages of Trump's 2005 federal income tax returns; they were disclosed to Rachel Maddow and shown on MSNBC. The document states that Trump had a gross adjusted income of $150 million and paid $38 million in federal taxes. The White House confirmed the authenticity of these documents."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_returns_of_Donald_Trump

Ok, two pages of a 12 year old return were produced.

That's why I say this week's disclosure in the NY Times about Trump's full tax returns, is big news.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:
Ok, two pages of a 12 year old return were produced.

That's why I say this week's disclosure in the NY Times about Trump's full tax returns, is big news.

Meh. It proves he's pretty much broke.

He will file bankruptcy again and protect assets until he is dead.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

That's why I say this week's disclosure in the NY Times about Trump's full tax returns, is big news.

Meh. It proves he's pretty much broke.  

He will file bankruptcy again and protect assets until he is dead.

If he doesn't go to jail. He will likely pardon himself of federal crimes, but the state of New York and the City of New York are going after him for fraud in the use of his trust. States of California, Oregon and Washington are right behind.

If he lies in bankruptcy court, or tries to support his position by the false documents he has used in taxes or in obtaining credit, that will be after-pardon conduct resulting in perjury.

Even if he behaves as an angel, he is still insolvent. He owes more than he owns. His estate will be sold off, and he will be on the street, like any other bankrupt. He's not entitled to special consideration.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Meh. It proves he's pretty much broke.  

He will file bankruptcy again and protect assets until he is dead.

If he doesn't go to jail.  He will likely pardon himself of federal crimes, but the state of New York and the City of New York are going after him for fraud in the use of his trust.  States of California, Oregon and Washington are right behind.

If he lies in bankruptcy court, or tries to support his position by the false documents he has used in taxes or in obtaining credit, that will be after-pardon conduct resulting in perjury.

Even if he behaves as an angel, he is still insolvent.  He owes more than he owns.  His estate will be sold off, and he will be on the street, like any other bankrupt.  He's not entitled to special consideration.  

ha ha ha not a chance.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Meh. It proves he's pretty much broke.  

He will file bankruptcy again and protect assets until he is dead.

If he doesn't go to jail.  He will likely pardon himself of federal crimes, but the state of New York and the City of New York are going after him for fraud in the use of his trust.  States of California, Oregon and Washington are right behind.

If he lies in bankruptcy court, or tries to support his position by the false documents he has used in taxes or in obtaining credit, that will be after-pardon conduct resulting in perjury.

Even if he behaves as an angel, he is still insolvent.  He owes more than he owns.  His estate will be sold off, and he will be on the street, like any other bankrupt.  He's not entitled to special consideration.  

He's filed bankruptcy before. He will be fine.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

If he doesn't go to jail.  He will likely pardon himself of federal crimes, but the state of New York and the City of New York are going after him for fraud in the use of his trust.  States of California, Oregon and Washington are right behind.

If he lies in bankruptcy court, or tries to support his position by the false documents he has used in taxes or in obtaining credit, that will be after-pardon conduct resulting in perjury.

Even if he behaves as an angel, he is still insolvent.  He owes more than he owns.  His estate will be sold off, and he will be on the street, like any other bankrupt.  He's not entitled to special consideration.  

He's filed bankruptcy before. He will be fine.  

Correction: he has filed bankruptcy for his businesses before. This time he will have to file for personal bankruptcy. These are personal guarantees. No way out. Putin has him by the nuts.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

He's filed bankruptcy before. He will be fine.  

Correction: he has filed bankruptcy for his businesses before.  This time he will have to file for personal bankruptcy.  These are personal guarantees.  No way out.  Putin has him by the nuts.

Personal bankruptcy is the way out.

Why are you so fucking weird?

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Correction: he has filed bankruptcy for his businesses before. This time he will have to file for personal bankruptcy. These are personal guarantees. No way out. Putin has him by the nuts.

Personal bankruptcy is the way out.

Why are you so fucking weird?

It's only "weird" these days to speak the truth. A personal bankruptcy with an insolvent person will leave that person with only his spare change and personal effects (clothes, a book or two, and perhaps a vehicle if it is not too expensive). Trump will do anything to avoid that result.

Problem is, he will be abandoned (for non-payment of fees) by his accountants and lawyers. They are his armament. He will be reduced to a bum sleeping in the gutter. He may not be able to avoid it. A bankruptcy can be filed by a creditor or group of creditors; when a person no longer has any assets that's how banks do it. Deutsche Bank (Putin and the Russian angels) will not hesitate. He will be stripped like a carcass, left as bones to bleach in the sun.

This is why his former attorney says "he will do anything, even start a war, to avoid it!" Trump was a trust baby, and he has as much understanding of the real world as a Persian princess. He will be cold and helpless when he is tossed out into the snow. Spending his remaining life in a prison will be a godsend.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Personal bankruptcy is the way out.  

Why are you so fucking weird?

It's only "weird" these days to speak the truth.  A personal bankruptcy with an insolvent person will leave that person with only his spare change and personal effects (clothes, a book or two, and perhaps a vehicle if it is not too expensive).  Trump will do anything to avoid that result.

Problem is, he will be abandoned (for non-payment of fees) by his accountants and lawyers.  They are his armament.  He will be reduced to a bum sleeping in the gutter.  He may not be able to avoid it.  A bankruptcy can be filed by a creditor or group of creditors; when a person no longer has any assets that's how banks do it.  Deutsche Bank (Putin and the Russian angels) will not hesitate.  He will be stripped like a carcass, left as bones to bleach in the sun.

This is why his former attorney says "he will do anything, even start a war, to avoid it!"  Trump was a trust baby, and he has as much understanding of the real world as a Persian princess.  He will be cold and helpless when he is tossed out into the snow.  Spending his remaining life in a prison will be a godsend.

You can protect all sorts of assets in a personal bankruptcy. He will be fine.

Stop pretending your wishes are reality. It's not healthy.

Really, seek help.

From all the reading I've done on your condition, it's the one constant I take away. Encourage pathological liars to seek help.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

It's only "weird" these days to speak the truth. A personal bankruptcy with an insolvent person will leave that person with only his spare change and personal effects (clothes, a book or two, and perhaps a vehicle if it is not too expensive). Trump will do anything to avoid that result.

Problem is, he will be abandoned (for non-payment of fees) by his accountants and lawyers. They are his armament. He will be reduced to a bum sleeping in the gutter. He may not be able to avoid it. A bankruptcy can be filed by a creditor or group of creditors; when a person no longer has any assets that's how banks do it. Deutsche Bank (Putin and the Russian angels) will not hesitate. He will be stripped like a carcass, left as bones to bleach in the sun.

This is why his former attorney says "he will do anything, even start a war, to avoid it!" Trump was a trust baby, and he has as much understanding of the real world as a Persian princess. He will be cold and helpless when he is tossed out into the snow. Spending his remaining life in a prison will be a godsend.

You can protect all sorts of assets in a personal bankruptcy. He will be fine.

Stop pretending your wishes are reality. It's not healthy.

Bullshite. Banks can afford to buy equally talented accountants and attorneys. If they want, they can strip you clean. Something tells me that Trump has made enough enemies to motivate them.

Maddog wrote:Really, seek help.

From all the reading I've done on your condition, it's the one constant I take away. Encourage pathological liars to seek help.

Lol...it's not about me…we were talking about bankruptcy. But it is significant that you make this diversion, nonetheless. It means you have run out of ideas to support your thesis, and you’re afraid to give in.

It's a bit gauche, but I accept your surrender of the point. Now, move on.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

You can protect all sorts of assets in a personal bankruptcy.  He will be fine.

Stop pretending your wishes are reality.  It's not healthy.

Bullshite.  Banks can afford to buy equally talented accountants and attorneys.  If they want, they can strip you clean.  Something tells me that Trump has made enough enemies to motivate them.

Maddog wrote:Really, seek help.  

From all the reading I've done on your condition, it's the one constant I take away. Encourage  pathological liars to seek help.

Lol...it's not about me…we were talking about bankruptcy.  But it is significant that you make this diversion, nonetheless.  It means you have run out of ideas to support your thesis, and you’re afraid to give in.

It's a bit gauche, but I accept your surrender of the point.  Now, move on.

No, it's about you problem on many of your posts.

Seek help.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Bullshite.  Banks can afford to buy equally talented accountants and attorneys.  If they want, they can strip you clean.  Something tells me that Trump has made enough enemies to motivate them.



Lol...it's not about me…we were talking about bankruptcy.  But it is significant that you make this diversion, nonetheless.  It means you have run out of ideas to support your thesis, and you’re afraid to give in.

It's a bit gauche, but I accept your surrender of the point.  Now, move on.

No, it's about you problem on many of your posts.

Seek help.  

This thread is titled: 'Trump tax returns: President paid virtually no income tax, lost tens of millions of dollars".  Yet, you are obsessed with me.  I understand your fear of the topic.  I can only conclude that you are also afraid of engaging yours truly, and attacking me dogmatically is your 'weak-sister' response to that fear.

Move on...you are boring.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

No, it's about you problem on many of your posts.

Seek help.  

This thread is titled: 'Trump tax returns: President paid virtually no income tax, lost tens of millions of dollars".  Yet, you are obsessed with me.  I understand your fear of the topic.  I can only conclude that you are also afraid of engaging yours truly, and attacking me dogmatically is your 'weak-sister' response to that fear.

Move on...you are boring.

I know what the topic is.

Fuck off.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

This thread is titled: 'Trump tax returns: President paid virtually no income tax, lost tens of millions of dollars".  Yet, you are obsessed with me.  I understand your fear of the topic.  I can only conclude that you are also afraid of engaging yours truly, and attacking me dogmatically is your 'weak-sister' response to that fear.

Move on...you are boring.

I know what the topic is.

Fuck off.

So...you are unable and unwilling to debate others. You are only here to trash others...have I got that right? Haha...you are not 'Maddog', you are 'Junkyard Dog'.

He does debate Quill, it's just you he has a problem being civil with, and vice versa.

Syl wrote:He does debate Quill, it's just you he has a problem being civil with, and vice versa.

I've never heard him espouse an original idea. The closest I’ve heard him come is to import something he has heard from one of his pro-fascist, southern website visits.

I've honestly tried to debate the libertarian issue with him, and he refuses to go into any detail. He will espouse surficial sentiments of libertarianism, but when one raises ideological difficulties with the theory, he goes directly into trash mode. Hence, I have concluded he is afraid of an honest debate. Most RW’ers are like that…they think in terms of jingo’s, and when you start to dissect ideas they go all squirrely.

However, Red’s unique response is to pivot to personal insults, which not only does not beg a response, but pulls one into trash mode. I usually just point out the diversion and go on my way, concluding he has tacitly abandoned his point. Which is too bad, because at times even I can think of responses to my own argument. But you can’t continue when one party wants to go all ugly.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:He does debate Quill, it's just you he has a problem being civil with, and vice versa.

I've never heard him espouse an original idea.  The closest I’ve heard him come is to import something he has heard from one of his pro-fascist, southern website visits.  

I've honestly tried to debate the libertarian issue with him, and he refuses to go into any detail.  He will espouse surficial sentiments of libertarianism, but when one raises ideological difficulties with the theory, he goes directly into trash mode.  Hence, I have concluded he is afraid of an honest debate.  Most RW’ers are like that…they think in terms of jingo’s, and when you start to dissect ideas they go all squirrely.

However, Red’s unique response is to pivot to personal insults, which not only does not beg a response, but pulls one into trash mode.  I usually just point out the diversion and go on my way, concluding he has tacitly abandoned his point.  Which is too bad, because at times even I can think of responses to my own argument.  But you can’t continue when one party wants to go all ugly.

I debate and am civil with every single poster on every forum save one.

The problem isn't with me.

I insult no one, but you.

Think about that.

And as long as you continue to fabricate and lie, I'll stay ugly with you and be civil with everyone else.

You get from me exactly what you deserve.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I've never heard him espouse an original idea.  The closest I’ve heard him come is to import something he has heard from one of his pro-fascist, southern website visits.  

I've honestly tried to debate the libertarian issue with him, and he refuses to go into any detail.  He will espouse surficial sentiments of libertarianism, but when one raises ideological difficulties with the theory, he goes directly into trash mode.  Hence, I have concluded he is afraid of an honest debate.  Most RW’ers are like that…they think in terms of jingo’s, and when you start to dissect ideas they go all squirrely.

However, Red’s unique response is to pivot to personal insults, which not only does not beg a response, but pulls one into trash mode.  I usually just point out the diversion and go on my way, concluding he has tacitly abandoned his point.  Which is too bad, because at times even I can think of responses to my own argument.  But you can’t continue when one party wants to go all ugly.

I debate and am civil with every single poster on every forum save one.

The problem isn't with me.

I insult no one, but you.

Think about that.

And as long as you continue to fabricate and lie, I'll stay ugly with you and be civil with everyone else.  

You get from me exactly what you deserve.  

What a load of Bullshite. The reason why you insult me is, I am the only one left on the site who is a LW'er. If there were others, you would be playing the same game with them.

Because you cannot reason, you have no ability to debate. Because you have no ability to debate, you talk trash and personal animosity. It's simple.

If I play along with the label game, I lean to the left as does Eddie....probably others do too.But tbh I think it's closed minded to dwell on which side people vote or support.....it's more interesting to listen to what they say about various topics.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

I debate and am civil with every single poster on every forum save one.

The problem isn't with me.

I insult no one, but you.

Think about that.

And as long as you continue to fabricate and lie, I'll stay ugly with you and be civil with everyone else.  

You get from me exactly what you deserve.  

What a load of Bullshite.  The reason why you insult me is, I am the only one left on the site who is a LW'er.  If there were others, you would be playing the same game with them.

Because you cannot reason, you have no ability to debate.  Because you have no ability to debate, you talk trash and personal animosity.  It's simple.

I insult you because you lie and fabricate. It's really that simple.

I mean it's been two years since I first called you Walter Mitty. You got that name for a reason.

The sad thing is, you're bright and intelligent and have no need to make things up, yet you do.

Maddog wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

What a load of Bullshite.  The reason why you insult me is, I am the only one left on the site who is a LW'er.  If there were others, you would be playing the same game with them.

Because you cannot reason, you have no ability to debate.  Because you have no ability to debate, you talk trash and personal animosity.  It's simple.

I insult you because you lie and fabricate. It's really that simple.  

No, you attack because you can't debate. It's a diversion for you.

Original Quill wrote:

Maddog wrote:

I insult you because you lie and fabricate. It's really that simple.  

No, you attack because you can't debate. It's a diversion for you.

...said the hypocrite who attacked me as being an extreme racist and fascist, after he failed in debate...!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

No, you attack because you can't debate.  It's a diversion for you.

...said the hypocrite who attacked me as being an extreme racist and fascist, after he failed in debate...!

Well, you asked. If I didn't answer, you would be all over me. And, if I didn't tell the truth, you would jump on that.

My only recourse is to be short, sweet and truthful.

Interesting that mere days since this news broke, we're now all talking about the president’s latest viral infection...

Ben Reilly wrote:Interesting that mere days since this news broke, we're now all talking about the president’s latest viral infection...

It could be a diversion, but it's going from the frying pan into the fire. His big issue going into the campaign was the economy, which was tanked by Covid-19. Now, his mishandling of the pandemic augers against him as the economy sinks.

He draws attention to the pandemic if he goes all, po lil me, I'se sick. He's capable of taking the 'pity-pulpit', but susceptible to the argument...hey, you brought on yourself, numb-nutz!

I actually just wanted to insinuate that this is only the latest in a long history of viral infections suffered by the president, to be fair. But yes, it may be a distraction from issues that are more important, but it's not a distraction that helps him in any way.