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Post by inmyopinion on Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:48 am

The guy is more a buisnessman than a politician, he says what he means and tries to get it doen, I think he is refereshing and is working to make America Great again.

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Post by Syl on Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:53 am

That's the joy of forums, everyone is entitled to voice their opinions....no matter how ludicrous. Wink

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Post by inmyopinion on Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:59 am

Syl wrote:That's the joy of forums, everyone is entitled to voice their opinions....no matter how ludicrous. Wink
Thank you, I think..lol

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Post by Syl on Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:10 pm

inmyopinion wrote:
Syl wrote:That's the joy of forums, everyone is entitled to voice their opinions....no matter how ludicrous. Wink
Thank you, I think..lol

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:49 pm

I think Vladimir Putin will prove to be the best president ever. He is more a shrewd genius than a bureaucrat. He is resourceful, leveraging minimum resources to maximum advantage. Most of all, he outmaneuvers others and is bringing Russia back into the prominence it once had as the Soviet Union.

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Post by Maddog on Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:06 pm

Original Quill wrote:I think Vladimir Putin will prove to be the best president ever.  He is more a shrewd genius than a bureaucrat.  He is resourceful, leveraging minimum resources to maximum advantage.  Most of all, he outmaneuvers others and is bringing Russia back into the prominence it once had as the Soviet Union.

Russia isn't a military or economic power after years of Putin being in charge.

Putin may be one of the wealthiest people on the planet though.

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Post by Maddog on Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:11 pm

inmyopinion wrote:The guy is more a buisnessman than a politician, he says what he means and tries to get it doen, I think he is refereshing and is working to make America Great again.

He's interesting no doubt.

I can see Americans having huge issues with him. I would think foreigners would like him for the most part. He's not running around poking hornets nests around the world like his predecessors.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:30 pm




He should be judged on what he has actually done/achieved, rather than on some of the negative waffle that is broadcast by the biased media etc...



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Post by Original Quill on Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:36 pm

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He should be judged on what he has actually done/achieved, rather than on some of the negative waffle that is broadcast by the biased media etc...

Trump? Over 200,000 dead so far. Some say the malfeasance was on purpose, to keep the stock market up.

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Post by nicko on Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:22 pm

Malfeasance? for fuck sake Quill stop it ! I can't find my Dictionary, and I'v told you about this before !
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Post by Original Quill on Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:56 pm

nicko wrote:Malfeasance? for fuck sake Quill stop it !  I can't find my Dictionary, and I'v told you about this before !

Laughing Ask and ye shall receive, nick:

Oxford Dictionary wrote:mal·fea·sance
/ˌmalˈfēzəns/

wrongdoing, especially by a public official.

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Post by eddie on Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:45 pm

inmyopinion wrote:The guy is more a buisnessman than a politician, he says what he means and tries to get it doen, I think he is refereshing and is working to make America Great again.

Controversial. I like it. I think Donald Trump will prove to be the best president ever. 3755771736

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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:49 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:


He should be judged on what he has actually done/achieved, rather than on some of the negative waffle that is broadcast by the biased media etc...



Great point. What has Donald Trump actually done or achieved? Let's focus on that. How has Trump made America better? And I'll go one further -- given the obstructionist nature of the U.S. government, what policies has Trump promoted or pursued that would benefit the average American?

This could be interesting.

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Post by JulesV on Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:40 am

You can always tell when a US general election is due cos paid stooges start running around spamming forums with long tall steaming piles of RW dogshit.

"We bow down before you,  your supreme highness, our great leader"

Ewww.  No

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Post by Maddog on Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:48 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


He should be judged on what he has actually done/achieved, rather than on some of the negative waffle that is broadcast by the biased media etc...



Great point. What has Donald Trump actually done or achieved? Let's focus on that. How has Trump made America better? And I'll go one further -- given the obstructionist nature of the U.S. government, what policies has Trump promoted or pursued that would benefit the average American?

This could be interesting.

He lowered taxes for many. Or at least he signed legislation that did. Of course there was an increase in government spending, so he is hurting future generations.

He has worked on some criminal justice reform.

Some would say banning bump stocks helped people. I wouldn't, but some would.

He is supporting more Corona stimulus than Republicans in congress. Again, that's sort of subjective.

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Post by Maddog on Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:50 am

JulesV wrote:You can always tell when a US general election is due cos paid stooges start running around spamming forums with long tall steaming piles of RW dogshit.

"We bow down before you,  your supreme highness, our great leader"

Ewww.  No

He or she has posted here long before now.

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Post by eddie on Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:23 am

JulesV wrote:You can always tell when a US general election is due cos paid stooges start running around spamming forums with long tall steaming piles of RW dogshit.

"We bow down before you,  your supreme highness, our great leader"

Ewww.  No

It’s an old poster. Not a “paid troll”. That’s a tad paranoid dude Shocked

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:58 am

Maddog wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

Great point. What has Donald Trump actually done or achieved? Let's focus on that. How has Trump made America better? And I'll go one further -- given the obstructionist nature of the U.S. government, what policies has Trump promoted or pursued that would benefit the average American?

This could be interesting.

He lowered taxes for many. Or at least he signed legislation that did.  Of course there was an increase in government spending, so he is hurting future generations.

He has worked on some criminal justice reform.

Some would say banning bump stocks helped people.  I wouldn't, but some would.  

He is supporting more Corona stimulus than Republicans in congress. Again, that's sort of subjective.  

He lowered taxes for corporations, and raised taxes for average earners.

He's done nothing for criminal justice reform.

He's done nothing on gun control.

Neither he nor congress have done anything for the pandemic.  They/he were caught off guard, and ran away from any plan.  They as much as murdered 200,000 Americans, and they aren't finished yet.

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He lowered taxes for many. Or at least he signed legislation that did.  Of course there was an increase in government spending, so he is hurting future generations.

He has worked on some criminal justice reform.

Some would say banning bump stocks helped people.  I wouldn't, but some would.  

He is supporting more Corona stimulus than Republicans in congress. Again, that's sort of subjective.  

He lowered taxes for corporations, and raised taxes for average earners.

He's done nothing for criminal justice reform.

He's done nothing on gun control.

Neither he nor congress have done anything for the pandemic.  They/he were caught off guard, and ran away from any plan.  They as much as murdered 200,000 Americans, and they aren't finished yet.

I was going to respond with corrections.

No use.

People can just Google those topics if they like. .

If I didn't sorta enjoy fucking with you at times, I'd just stop wasting my time.

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:26 am

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

He lowered taxes for corporations, and raised taxes for average earners.

He's done nothing for criminal justice reform.

He's done nothing on gun control.

Neither he nor congress have done anything for the pandemic.  They/he were caught off guard, and ran away from any plan.  They as much as murdered 200,000 Americans, and they aren't finished yet.

I was going to respond with corrections.

No use.  

People can just Google those topics if they like. .

If I didn't sorta enjoy fucking with you at times, I'd  just stop wasting my time.  

Southerners!  No brains...they just hang around, get drunk and fuck off. Wink  Amexit! cheers

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Post by Didgee on Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:36 am

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I was going to respond with corrections.

No use.  

People can just Google those topics if they like. .

If I didn't sorta enjoy fucking with you at times, I'd  just stop wasting my time.  

Southerners!  No brains...they just hang around, get drunk and fuck off.   Wink   Amexit! cheers


Was not Martin Luther King a southerner?

lol!

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:41 am

Didgee wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Southerners!  No brains...they just hang around, get drunk and fuck off.   Wink   Amexit! cheers


Was not Martin Luther King a southerner?

lol!

Oh, there have been many good southerners.  We'll have to get them out before we cast the south off.  Wink

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Didgee wrote:
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Southerners!  No brains...they just hang around, get drunk and fuck off.   Wink   Amexit! cheers


Was not Martin Luther King a southerner?

lol!

And Charles Manson was a Californian.

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Post by Eilzel on Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:34 am

inmyopinion wrote:The guy is more a buisnessman than a politician, he says what he means and tries to get it doen, I think he is refereshing and is working to make America Great again.

That'll be difficult if he doesn't even get to serve 2 terms.

Though, as one of the most divisive and juvenile presidents in recent memory, and with the worst handling of Covid of any leader in the world, I think your title is massively overblown.

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Post by inmyopinion on Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:49 am

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He should be judged on what he has actually done/achieved, rather than on some of the negative waffle that is broadcast by the biased media etc...



That is the main problem, the establishment and media are so totally against trump and everything he tries to do, they have no control over him and that is a position they cannot stand, they had obama in their pocket as his sudden wealth demonstrates.

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Post by inmyopinion on Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:51 am

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inmyopinion wrote:The guy is more a buisnessman than a politician, he says what he means and tries to get it doen, I think he is refereshing and is working to make America Great again.

That'll be difficult if he doesn't even get to serve 2 terms.

Though, as one of the most divisive and juvenile presidents in recent memory, and with the worst handling of Covid of any leader in the world, I think your title is massively overblown.

I think he will get a second term, despite the hate the establishment shows against him, he think he will do even better second time round and the establishment woud rather crash the economy than not have control of the president, it says more about them than it says about Donald Trump.

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Post by inmyopinion on Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:54 am

JulesV wrote:You can always tell when a US general election is due cos paid stooges start running around spamming forums with long tall steaming piles of RW dogshit.

"We bow down before you,  your supreme highness, our great leader"

Ewww.  No
as opposed to left wing bullshit I suppose, some peole need to realise opposong opinions can be right, they should not always be rejected as wrong by default because you do not happen to agree.

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:45 pm

inmyopinion wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

That'll be difficult if he doesn't even get to serve 2 terms.

Though, as one of the most divisive and juvenile presidents in recent memory, and with the worst handling of Covid of any leader in the world, I think your title is massively overblown.

I think he will get a second term, despite the hate the establishment shows against him, he think he will do even better second time round and the establishment woud rather crash the economy than not have control of the president, it says more about them than it says about Donald Trump.

Trump is organized crime...connected to the Gambino family in Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens and Long Island.  He has lately attached himself to the Russian mafia, which has been quite successful these days.

But crime needs a legitimate society upon which to prey...the theory of 'easy money'.  When you start taking over the richest, most powerful nations, from the top, the legitimate society evaporates and all that is left is crime on crime.

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Post by inmyopinion on Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:48 pm

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inmyopinion wrote:

I think he will get a second term, despite the hate the establishment shows against him, he think he will do even better second time round and the establishment woud rather crash the economy than not have control of the president, it says more about them than it says about Donald Trump.

Trump is organized crime...connected to the Gambino family in Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens and Long Island.  He has lately attached himself to the Russian mafia, which has been quite successful these days.

But crime needs a legitimate society upon which to prey...the theory of 'easy money'.  When you start taking over the richest, most powerful nations, from the top, the legitimate society evaporates and all that is left is crime on crime.

If you keep using the beano as your source material you will keep saying stupid things.

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inmyopinion wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Trump is organized crime...connected to the Gambino family in Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens and Long Island.  He has lately attached himself to the Russian mafia, which has been quite successful these days.

But crime needs a legitimate society upon which to prey...the theory of 'easy money'.  When you start taking over the richest, most powerful nations, from the top, the legitimate society evaporates and all that is left is crime on crime.

If you keep using the beano as your source material you will keep saying stupid things.

Lol...but it's not about me. It's about Trump. He won't get a second term, unless the Russians actually rig the electronic voting machines. Um...you can't do that when there is a paper trail, as with absentee voting.

The irony is that Trump allowed the virus to take off, which caused a drastic increase in absentee voting, which will do in the Russian rigging. The best laid plans of mice and men, eh? You have to chuckle.

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If you keep using the beano as your source material you will keep saying stupid things.

Lol...but it's not about me.  It's about Trump.  He won't get a second term, unless the Russians actually rig the electronic voting machines.  Um...you can't do that when there is a paper trail, as with absentee voting.

The irony is that Trump allowed the virus to take off, which caused a drastic increase in absentee voting, which will do in the Russian rigging.  The best laid plans of mice and men, eh?  You have to chuckle.

Wink

the Russians, seriously, that's the best you can do, I think and hope he will win a second term.
and trump is to blame for the virus, wow, so you think he ruined the economy to allow him to rig the vote, Ihope you don't call conspiracy theorists names.

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:12 pm

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Lol...but it's not about me. It's about Trump. He won't get a second term, unless the Russians actually rig the electronic voting machines. Um...you can't do that when there is a paper trail, as with absentee voting.

The irony is that Trump allowed the virus to take off, which caused a drastic increase in absentee voting, which will do in the Russian rigging. The best laid plans of mice and men, eh? You have to chuckle.

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the Russians, seriously, that's the best you can do, I think and hope he will win a second term.

I think the Russians have a significant mole in the White House, and certain seats in Congress. They also appear to have taken over the NRA. See, Harding, Luke, Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win (2017).

Denial is a river in East Africa, not an answer to real facts. We live in a changing world, where normal is no longer. We have a president who grabs pussy and brags about it, and a Supreme Court justice who is a gang rapist. In this day and age, Putin is to be congratulated for pulling it off.

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Post by inmyopinion on Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:09 pm

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the Russians, seriously, that's the best you can do, I think and hope he will win a second term.

I think the Russians have a significant mole in the White House, and certain seats in Congress.  They also appear to have taken over the NRA.  See, Harding, Luke, Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win (2017).

Denial is a river in East Africa, not an answer to real facts.  We live in a changing world, where normal is no longer.  We have a president who grabs pussy and brags about it, and a Supreme Court justice who is a gang rapist.  In this day and age, Putin is to be congratulated for pulling it off.

peddling conspiracy theories, I thought you considered such things as fantasies but not when they support your stance, how very convenient.

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Post by Maddog on Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:40 pm

So I'm dog sitting my grand dog in Dallas this weekend. I like to ride through the areas with the multi million dollar homes on part of my rides.

It appears the big money in Dallas is now supporting Biden based on yard signs. Of course putting a Trump sign in your yard in Dallas is asking for trouble, so the sign counts aren't very scientific Trump will still win Texas, but N Dallas used to be a Republican territory. W lives there. Of course W isn't supporting Trump either.

I imagine Trump will lose, but I'm open to changing my mind because Biden has dementia and will embarrass the hell out of himself at the debates.

There could be just enough swing voters to keep Trump in office if Biden stands there babbling and drooling.

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:07 pm

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I think the Russians have a significant mole in the White House, and certain seats in Congress.  They also appear to have taken over the NRA.  See, Harding, Luke, Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win (2017).

Denial is a river in East Africa, not an answer to real facts.  We live in a changing world, where normal is no longer.  We have a president who grabs pussy and brags about it, and a Supreme Court justice who is a gang rapist.  In this day and age, Putin is to be congratulated for pulling it off.

peddling conspiracy theories, I thought you considered such things as fantasies but not when they support your stance, how very convenient.

There is nothing wrong with conspiracy theories.  If it were wrong, "conspiracy" wouldn't be such a common part of the law.  RICO is a conspiracy law.  The general conspiracy statute, 18 U.S.C. § 371, creates an offense "[i]f two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose."

The idea of a conspiracy is that two or more people plan or subscribe to it.  That's the same basic idea as a hypothesis.  Was the idea that the earth is round a conspiracy, or simply a better idea?

Around 2008, when Trump and Deutsche Bank were locked in litigation for around $450-million to $-half-billion, over Trump Tower in Chicago, Trump was suddenly bailed out by some unknown angel who banked at the Moscow Branch of Deutsche Bank (lol...the Bank, Trump's own adversary, actually had to inform Trump that the suit was settled).  Since the settlement, a line of credit has been established and has accounted for $-hundreds of millions more, made available to Trump (to date, the amount borrowed amounts to $2-billion).  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/04/magazine/deutsche-bank-trump.html

Now, suddenly, Trump loves Putin, and is conducting US foreign policy in accordance with that love.  Likewise, Trump is granting favors to Putin friends, Kim Jung Un of No. Korea, and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, president of Turkey.

It begs looking into.  It's a hypothesis that will be checked out as soon as Trump is removed from office.  But the suspicion of an agreement to break the law is well founded.

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Post by inmyopinion on Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:16 am

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peddling conspiracy theories, I thought you considered such things as fantasies but not when they support your stance, how very convenient.

There is nothing wrong with conspiracy theories.  If it were wrong, "conspiracy" wouldn't be such a common part of the law.  RICO is a conspiracy law.  The general conspiracy statute, 18 U.S.C. § 371, creates an offense "[i]f two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose."

The idea of a conspiracy is that two or more people plan or subscribe to it.  That's the same basic idea as a hypothesis.  Was the idea that the earth is round a conspiracy, or simply a better idea?

Around 2008, when Trump and Deutsche Bank were locked in litigation for around $450-million to $-half-billion, over Trump Tower in Chicago, Trump was suddenly bailed out by some unknown angel who banked at the Moscow Branch of Deutsche Bank (lol...the Bank, Trump's own adversary, actually had to inform Trump that the suit was settled).  Since the settlement, a line of credit has been established and has accounted for $-hundreds of millions more, made available to Trump (to date, the amount borrowed amounts to $2-billion).  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/04/magazine/deutsche-bank-trump.html

Now, suddenly, Trump loves Putin, and is conducting US foreign policy in accordance with that love.  Likewise, Trump is granting favors to Putin friends, Kim Jung Un of No. Korea, and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, president of Turkey.

It begs looking into.  It's a hypothesis that will be checked out as soon as Trump is removed from office.  But the suspicion of an agreement to break the law is well founded.

Do you honestly believe with the hate there is for Trump and the desperation the establishment has to remove him that he hasn't been scrutinised, they have tried to find everything and anything on him and the best they managed was some man's club talk about "pussy", if there were a shred of evidence against Trump it would be on every media channel, every newspaper everywhere in the world.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:55 pm

inmyopinion wrote:Do you honestly believe with the hate there is for Trump and the desperation the establishment has to remove him that he hasn't been scrutinized, they have tried to find everything and anything on him and the best they managed was some man's club talk about "pussy", if there were a shred of evidence against Trump it would be on every media channel, every newspaper everywhere in the world.

Actually, they've found the crimes. For example, he has already been found to be a co-conspirator in the conviction of Michael Cohen, his lawyer. Many other things await action, pending his removal from office: sedition, espionage, rape, murder, tax fraud, bank fraud, mail and wire fraud, trafficking in women…and much more. The impediment is, a sitting president cannot be indicted under federal law. (Indeed, that's why New York state is moving forward right now--different jurisdiction.)

It's just a matter of time...and, possibly snowflake Democrats wringing their hands instead of doing their duty.

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Post by inmyopinion on Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:24 am

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inmyopinion wrote:Do you honestly believe with the hate there is for Trump and the desperation the establishment has to remove him that he hasn't been scrutinized, they have tried to find everything and anything on him and the best they managed was some man's club talk about "pussy", if there were a shred of evidence against Trump it would be on every media channel, every newspaper everywhere in the world.

Actually, they've found the crimes.  For example, he has already been found to be a co-conspirator in the conviction of Michael Cohen, his lawyer.  Many other things await action, pending his removal from office: sedition, espionage, rape, murder, tax fraud, bank fraud, mail and wire fraud, trafficking in women…and much more.  The impediment is, a sitting president cannot be indicted under federal law.  (Indeed, that's why New York state is moving forward right now--different jurisdiction.)

It's just a matter of time...and, possibly snowflake Democrats wringing their hands instead of doing their duty.

Ha Ha Ha, I'm, sorry but what you say is BS, if they had a single thing on president Trump it would be in every single media source continually, there would be court cases and more talk of impeachment. The only ones desperately working are the establishment, trying to dig dirt, create dirt, create anything to stop president Trump and they have diddly squat, they would rather destroy world economy than have President Trump in power, they would see everyone starve or die than lose their control and power, that is who you would rather see in control over you, not a man, the first President to ever work for nothing, strange choice you have made,

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:27 pm

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He should be judged on what he has actually done/achieved, rather than on some of the negative waffle that is broadcast by the biased media etc...



Great point. What has Donald Trump actually done or achieved? Let's focus on that. How has Trump made America better? And I'll go one further -- given the obstructionist nature of the U.S. government, what policies has Trump promoted or pursued that would benefit the average American?

This could be interesting.

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inmyopinion wrote:Ha Ha Ha, I'm, sorry but what you say is BS, if they had a single thing on president Trump it would be in every single media source continually, there would be court cases and more talk of impeachment. The only ones desperately working are the establishment, trying to dig dirt, create dirt, create anything to stop president Trump and they have diddly squat, they would rather destroy world economy than have President Trump in power, they would see everyone starve or die than lose their control and power, that is who you would rather see in control over you, not a man, the first President to ever work for nothing, strange choice you have made,

Trump’s crimes are in the US media constantly.  There are court cases against Trump in New York State as we speak.  In fact, Cyrus Vance, the District Attorney of New York County, has just obtained US Supreme Court authorization to finally subpoena Trump’s tax returns from his accountant firm.  Those tax returns will to be a road map to all of the details of Trump’s crimes, both before the presidency, and during.  They are in the hands of the Grand Jury right now.

The reason why legal action against Trump is not on the front pages of America’s newspapers right now is that a sitting president is immune from prosecution of federal crimes while he sits in office.  Also, the sitting president is in charge, and has custody of most evidence to prove crimes…note that Mr. Vance went after the President’s accountant firm, not the executive branch.  Wink   I doubt Trump will ever be federally prosecuted if he takes his former attorney’s advice: pardon everyone involved, then resign and have the vice-president pardon him.  But, you see, that will finger “everyone involved” and they will be subject to legal proceedings beyond federal jurisdiction.

For…federal rules do not apply to the states…not the ‘no-prosecution’ rule, not the pardons, nor limitations on investigations.  That’s why you see the New York DA going forward, when federal courts have been silent.  Patience, my little uneducated one, the law moves slowly and there are legal shoals to be avoided.  After January 20th you will see a lot of activity.

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inmyopinion wrote:Ha Ha Ha, I'm, sorry but what you say is BS, if they had a single thing on president Trump it would be in every single media source continually, there would be court cases and more talk of impeachment. The only ones desperately working are the establishment, trying to dig dirt, create dirt, create anything to stop president Trump and they have diddly squat, they would rather destroy world economy than have President Trump in power, they would see everyone starve or die than lose their control and power, that is who you would rather see in control over you, not a man, the first President to ever work for nothing, strange choice you have made,

Trump’s crimes are in the US media constantly.  There are court cases against Trump in New York State as we speak.  In fact, Cyrus Vance, the District Attorney of New York County, has just obtained US Supreme Court authorization to finally subpoena Trump’s tax returns from his accountant firm.  Those tax returns will to be a road map to all of the details of Trump’s crimes, both before the presidency, and during.  They are in the hands of the Grand Jury right now.

The reason why legal action against Trump is not on the front pages of America’s newspapers right now is that a sitting president is immune from prosecution of federal crimes while he sits in office.  Also, the sitting president is in charge, and has custody of most evidence to prove crimes…note that Mr. Vance went after the President’s accountant firm, not the executive branch.  Wink   I doubt Trump will ever be federally prosecuted if he takes his former attorney’s advice: pardon everyone involved, then resign and have the vice-president pardon him.  But, you see, that will finger “everyone involved” and they will be subject to legal proceedings beyond federal jurisdiction.

For…federal rules do not apply to the states…not the ‘no-prosecution’ rule, not the pardons, nor limitations on investigations.  That’s why you see the New York DA going forward, when federal courts have been silent.  Patience, my little uneducated one, the law moves slowly and there are legal shoals to be avoided.  After January 20th you will see a lot of activity.

Ha Ha Ha you actually believe your own BS it is hilarious, you actually think all this wouldn't have come out during his election campaign, the only thing you are going to see my little uneducated one, is the results of having a great leader who loves his country but you will never see that.lol

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:41 pm

Patience, my little one. Patience. Wink

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the establishment hate him, so he must be doing something right.

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