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Post by Didgee on Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:33 pm

Rebecca Long-Bailey has been sacked as shadow education secretary by Sir Keir Starmer, after sharing an article containing "an antisemitic conspiracy theory".

A spokesman for the Labour leader confirmed he had asked her to step side and stressed his commitment to "restoring trust with the Jewish community".

The spokesman said: “This afternoon Keir Starmer asked Rebecca Long-Bailey to step down from the Shadow Cabinet. The article Rebecca shared earlier today contained an antisemitic conspiracy theory.

“As Leader of the Labour Party, Keir has been clear that restoring trust with the Jewish community is a number one priority. Antisemitism takes many different forms and it is important that we all are vigilant against it.”

Earlier today Ms Long-Bailey had shared an interview with the actress Maxine Peak, in which she claimed Israelis taught American police the technique that killed George Floyd.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/06/25/lockdown-uk-news-update-boris-johnson-government-guidelines/

Liking more and more Keir Starmer

For once Labour have a strong willed and decent leader

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Post by Didgee on Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:56 am

This is why the far left still continue to fail to learn from the fact they often are complicit in antisemitism

Owen Jones when he realised that this was an antisemitic conspiracy that had no bases. Quickly changed track and yet Ask Sarkar, doubled down on this

https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1276168038249791491

The reality is no Israeli forces use this method

Nor do they train this in counter terrorism courses with the US Police

She used amnesty international to back her claim and ended up with egg on her face, when they posted the following

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/06/amnesty-international-we-never-reported-neck-kneeling-taught-israelis-us

Proving that the far left is inherently antisemitic and believes any lied claim

They really do not care or listen to Jews or understand such a claim. After so many people angry over this death by the US Police. To castigate and blame Jews for training this. When they never did. Ends up with more people blaming Jews. Which has gone up for well over 2000 years, leading to an increase of violence and hate against Jews

People should read and why I am so glad Labour has a decent leader now

https://twitter.com/Sara_Rose_G/status/1276174951440158720

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Post by Syl on Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:07 pm

Actresses should stick to acting.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:04 pm

Syl wrote:Actresses should stick to acting.

Meh...they've got as much to speak out as any other citizen.

But, I think the point is well-taken if you mean that, by their fame, they are over-heard. But that has as much to do with the hearers.

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Post by Syl on Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:31 pm

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Syl wrote:Actresses should stick to acting.

Meh...they've got as much to speak out as any other citizen.

But, I think the point is well-taken if you mean that, by their fame, they are over-heard.  But that has as much to do with the hearers.

They have a following and they have the means to influence a lot of people. Given the way anti-semitism has reared it's ugly head recently in the Labour party one would think the actress should be very careful what she is saying, and more importantly the politician shouldn't be repeating what she has said as if she is the bloody oracle.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:38 pm

Syl wrote:They have a following and they have the means to influence a lot of people.

Yes. The public affords to actors/stars far too much importance. Ronald Reagan got elected that way, and without any real qualification.

But truth be told, Reagan had as much right to run for public office as anyone. It's kinda the vending machine model of politics: you know what you are getting before you select, and you can always make another selection.

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Post by Syl on Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:49 pm

Yes that's true....sadly many people are easily influenced, but just cos someone can act and maybe looks good doesn't meant they have the right qualifications to run a country.

Wasn't Nancy said to be the brains behind Reagans presidency?

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Post by Maddog on Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:11 pm

Syl wrote:Yes that's true....sadly many people are easily influenced,  but just cos someone can act and maybe looks good doesn't meant they have the right qualifications to run a country.

Wasn't Nancy said to be the brains behind Reagans presidency?

Nancy watched her husbands back. Reagan was a Governor of a state before he was President.

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Post by nicko on Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:35 pm

Never liked Long-Bailey, she had a cruel little Mouth !
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Post by Original Quill on Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:37 pm

Syl wrote:Yes that's true....sadly many people are easily influenced,  but just cos someone can act and maybe looks good doesn't meant they have the right qualifications to run a country.

Wasn't Nancy said to be the brains behind Reagans presidency?

Actually, Reagan was the first Republican president who allowed subordinates to run roughshod over him, and produced a cabal of Republican advisors that included Richard Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, who tried to recreate the same situation with GWB, formerly president of a baseball team.  You will recall Cheney/Rumsfeld lied and started the 2d Iraq war.  Reagan's sole qualification for entering politics was that he gave a speech at Chevez Revine Stadium promoting Barry Goldwater for president in 1964.

True, Reagan spent two terms as California's governor, but he was detached and unprepared for that job too.  He was shunted aside by subordinates in that role.  He won the presidency because he looked the part.  He was 74 at his 2d-term inauguration, and probably entered the on-set of dementia soon after.  It is said that Nancy Reagan called the shots as macho-in-chief in that period, til the end.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:26 pm

Bush was a two-term governor as well. Being a governor isn't as great a qualification to be president as some people seem to think. Some governors have made good presidents, but it's really hit or miss.

I'd prefer a president who comes from Congress -- that gives them a leg up on knowing how to get things done in D.C.

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Post by Maddog on Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:30 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Bush was a two-term governor as well. Being a governor isn't as great a qualification to be president as some people seem to think. Some governors have made good presidents, but it's really hit or miss.

I'd prefer a president who comes from Congress -- that gives them a leg up on knowing how to get things done in D.C.

Governors and presidents are both from the executive branch. They have roughly the same roles.

Legislators have zero experiencing running anything except a very tiny office.

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:52 pm

Maddog wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:Bush was a two-term governor as well. Being a governor isn't as great a qualification to be president as some people seem to think. Some governors have made good presidents, but it's really hit or miss.

I'd prefer a president who comes from Congress -- that gives them a leg up on knowing how to get things done in D.C.

Governors and presidents are both from the executive branch. They have roughly the same roles.  

Governors have no experience in foreign policy--fully half the job of the president.  Legislators have hands-on with not only foreign policy, but budgets, appropriations, military, and a myriad of things that governors rarely see...except New York, California, and maybe, Florida with Cubans and south/central Americans.

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Post by Vintage on Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:51 pm

Wasn't Nancy the de facto president?

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:58 am

Vintage wrote:Wasn't Nancy the de facto president?

As I understand it--mind you, it's all gossip--Nancy knew that subordinates were using Ronald as a patsy.  She resented that, and Nancy could hold a grudge.

Reagan never was politically savvy.  He knew simple truths, like: we are wealthy, they are not; if we outspend the Soviets on military items, we will bust their balls.  He built the Star Wars Defense system, and the Sov's could not keep up, and folded.  That's why he is so revered, but it was just street-smarts.  It didn't take intelligence to figure it out.

When Ronnie started fading, Nancy took over...kinda as his protector.  She naturally gained power and it wasn't in her personality not to start paying back.  When she was through, she was the highest power left.  She called the shots, and I guess she could be called the de facto president.

But the weasels got their revenge three presidents later.  They destroyed the Republican legacy, and you guys already know how the vacuum was filled.  Right now, there is no Republican Party.

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