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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:26 pm

After a decade of life expectancy stagnation, there is now evidence that life expectancy in the UK is actually falling, especially for those living in poorer areas, and especially amongst the poor.
This seems to tie in with the decade of austerity Britain has faced.
It does seem a bit suspicious.

The fall in life expectancy is proof that austerity kills

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/25/levelling-up-life-expectancy-tories-government-health?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

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Post by Maddog on Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:36 pm

Brutus wrote:After a decade of life expectancy stagnation, there is now evidence that life expectancy in the UK is actually falling, especially for those living in poorer areas, and especially amongst the poor.
This seems to tie in with the decade of austerity Britain has faced.
It does seem a bit suspicious.

The fall in life expectancy is proof that austerity kills

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/25/levelling-up-life-expectancy-tories-government-health?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Do they have any figures for the UK in general? I know that the EU took a very small dip in life expectancy too. It's not unusual when you take in a lot of immigrants from the third world. While their life expectancy is higher once they leave their countries, it's still lower than the native born residents, and pulls down averages.

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Post by nicko on Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:14 pm

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:28 pm

A difficult question to answer, Maddog . It is unclear whether the statistics ventured into gender and country of origin. It seems more wealth ( or lack of ) orientated. The statistics do seem.to imply the poorer you are, the younger you will die. Probably more than one factor .
Health, diet, exercise, holidays stress will all play a part in early death or a prolonged life.

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Post by Vintage on Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:39 pm

People in Britain had rationing to deal with yet they were apparently healthier and lived quite long lives and most of them had pretty hard lives before that, deprivation was fairly general for that generation of adults. Many of the children of the war years seem to be quite long lived as well. Maybe its pollution and preservatives.

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:50 pm

Or lack of exercise? People tended to.walk to work, often miles each way. Kids walked to school, and had playgrounds and playing fields. Now everyone goes by bus or car, even for short trips. And school playing fields, especially for town centre schools are becoming a rarity.


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Post by Vintage on Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:25 pm

Could well be lack of exercise coupled with bad food. We used to go out in the morning on weekends or school holidays with jam or paste sandwiches and not be seen again until it went dark or it was supper time. We'd be running, walking, climbing, building dens, swings and gambos on which we'd launch ourselves down hill at speed or sitting on pieces of cardboard and sliding down the mountains often ending up in the river we generally dried off by the time we went home but would be pretty dirty. Maybe its the immune system as well, not maturing properly, as children don't seem to get dirty these days.
We ' helped' on the local farm, encountering all sorts of animals, we drank milk straight from the dairy it was only filtered through a paper filter before going into the churns for collection and into your jug at home - full cream it would be called now.

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:53 pm

Summer holidays after the harvest. Built forts and castles from haystacks. Great fun and kept us off the streets.

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Post by Vintage on Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:17 pm

Brutus, did you grow up on a farm or helped out?
I grew up in a village of 14 houses with one farm that had the fields immediately around it, anyone available from the village used to help out at harvest time, it was a great way to grow up.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:34 pm

Maddog wrote:
Brutus wrote:After a decade of life expectancy stagnation, there is now evidence that life expectancy in the UK is actually falling, especially for those living in poorer areas, and especially amongst the poor.
This seems to tie in with the decade of austerity Britain has faced.
It does seem a bit suspicious.

The fall in life expectancy is proof that austerity kills

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/25/levelling-up-life-expectancy-tories-government-health?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Do they have any figures for the UK in general? I know that the EU took a very small dip in life expectancy too. It's not unusual when you take in a lot of immigrants from the third world. While their life expectancy is higher once they leave their countries, it's still lower than the native born residents, and pulls down averages.


Exactly what I was going to say!



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Post by Tommy Monk on Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:01 am




Or maybe it's because of air pollution because of the huge increase in diesel vehicles on the roads these days...


Wasn't it Labour who told everyone to buy diesels a few years back...!?



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Post by 'Wolfie on Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:15 am

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Worldwide, there has been a reversal in the average life expectancies for many 'developed' countries over the past decade... Not only Britain and western Europe..

Making it more likely that common factors such as ever-increasing pollution, environmental degradation and a "softer" lifestyle (less physical activity and exercise, more crappy diets..) are much more to blame --  as different countries have different levels of austerity measures, immigration, political and cultural differences.

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