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Post by Original Quill Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:18 am

CNN wrote:Black and Hispanic drivers in Austin, Texas, are disproportionately stopped by police, report says
By Harmeet Kaur and Melissa Alonso, CNN

(CNN)Black and Hispanic drivers in Austin, Texas, continue to be pulled over by police disproportionately, according to a city report released Thursday.

It found that black and African Americans are the most overrepresented, making up 15% of motor vehicle stops and 25% of arrests resulting from stops by the Austin Police Department in 2018. Yet black and African Americans make up just 8% of the city's adult population.
Hispanics and Latinos are also disproportionately affected, the report found. They made up 33% of motor vehicle stops and 43% of resulting arrests, despite making up 31% of Austin residents 18 and older.

Blacks and Hispanics are also disproportionately searched as a result of those stops, the report found.

Whites and Asians get pulled over less

Whites and Asians, meanwhile, are underrepresented.

Whites made up 47% of stops and 31% of resulting arrests, but 54% of adults. Asians made up 4% of stops and 0.9% of resulting arrests, but 6% of the people 18 and older.

Some might say the disparities exist partly because black and African Americans are more likely to commute into Austin from surrounding communities. But the report's authors said the data do not support that theory.

Instead, people of all races and ethnicities studied have similar commuting habits, according to the report.

Austin police also released a report on racial profiling

The report was the result of a joint effort between Austin's Office of Police Oversight, and the Office of Innovation and Equity. They looked at the race and ethnicities of people pulled over between 2015 and 2018 to understand and address potential disparities.

The city's police force also released a report on racial profiling in 2018, though it only included raw data on vehicle stops and searches by race and ethnicity -- not how those numbers compared to that group's numbers in the overall population.

"The collective voice of the Office of Police Oversight, Office of Innovation, and Equity Office is a welcome addition to the ongoing conversation focused on redressing racial inequities in Austin," the Austin Police Department said in its response to the report.

"Their joint report on the Austin Police Department's traffic stop data represents another brick in the path toward inclusive diversity and equality for the citizens of this city, and it has given our Department a valuable opportunity to view the issue from an alternative perspective."

Report calls on police to eliminate disparities by 2023

The three departments that produced the report also outlined a series of recommendations.

First, they called on the police department to "acknowledge that racial disparity exists and is worsening." They also called for the department to eliminate the racial disparities by 2023, to require implicit bias testing in hiring, and for current employees and to train all staff on racial equity, among other recommendations.

"To achieve the strategic direction of the City of Austin, the Austin Police Department (APD) should make every effort to address racial and ethnic disparities in this report and fulfill the recommendations within," the report says. "This is just the first step to establish trust with the communities that have been negatively impacted by these practices."

Police department says it has tried to address disparities

In his response to the city manager, Chief Brian Manley said that the department acknowledges racial disparities in police enforcement.

Manley also outlined steps that the department has taken in the past five years to address the problems, such as publishing reports on racial profiling and police use of force, instituting implicit bias training for new and current employees, and working with the community to enact policy changes.

"Despite all of these efforts, disparities have persisted," he said.
Manley said the department is eager to achieve more progress by working with city leaders and the community.

All lives matter. Just, black lives matter less. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:03 pm

What % of crime rates are they responsible for...!?


Plus the fact that such a large number are arrested after being stopped shows that they are doing something wrong...
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Post by Original Quill Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:00 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:What % of crime rates are they responsible for...!?

Who made them that way?  Who forced them into lives of poverty?  Who forced them into ghettos?  Who discriminated in housing, education and employment opportunities, such that their only recourse was to break out just to breathe?  They started out as slaves; who were the masters?

Stop and frisk is the cops way of directly enforcing the code of inequality.  Stop and frisk only blacks and Mexicans, means get back to your own side of town...don't get uppity...shut the fuck up about your rights.

And of course, those who don't obey are the ones who get to counted in those "crime rates" you mention, tom. White cops arrest them; white judges arraign them; white juries convict them. And, of course, white supremacists scream if they even dare to walk on the grass.  It's the way you create and enforce status and color strata in society.  And of course, black lives don't matter, is the end result.  Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:14 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:What % of crime rates are they responsible for...!?


Plus the fact that such a large number are arrested after being stopped shows that they are doing something wrong...



You didn't answer the question...


If young black and Hispanic looking men are hugely reported as being the description of perpetrators of huge number of crimes carried out... Then surely if the police are doing their job properly in responding to said crimes and descriptions etc, then the police will be stopping many of those in the area who match the description...!?


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Post by eddie Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:55 pm

Well Quill, you are on record as saying that Eastern European’s are mostly responsible for human trafficking...are you as biased as the police in this story insofar as you’d be more likely to stop Eastern European’s to look in the trunk of their car for human bodies?

Just asking.
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Post by Original Quill Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:54 pm

eddie wrote:Well Quill, you are on record as saying that Eastern European’s are mostly responsible for human trafficking...are you as biased as the police in this story insofar as you’d be more likely to stop Eastern European’s to look in the trunk of their car for human bodies?

Just asking.

Damn good question.  The difference is evidence.  Perhaps you don't know what 'stop and frisk' is.  It is a permissive mandate for police to stop and search ordinary people going about their business, on the basis of their race or ethnicity.  Now, to 'stop and frisk' a white person under the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, you would need evidence.  But, being a black or Hispanic, particularly in a 'hood' not their 'ghetto', is evidence enough under 'stop and frisk' rules.

It appears that evidence of a crime is not necessary, according to nick and others (see related thread, "Re: Prison officers lucky to be alive after terror attack at high-security jail, officials say").  Rumor or gossip is evidence enough in their minds.  But I insist that it is still required in American courts.

'Stop and frisk' is particularly heinous when coupled with 'black lives don't matter'.  Think of Sandra Bland, and how she was murdered in jail after being accused of having a tail light out.  Well, if you don't even need a faulty tail light, think of how many more minorities will be killed.

It's now down to who you are, and if you are the right color.

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Post by Maddog Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:17 am

eddie wrote:Well Quill, you are on record as saying that Eastern European’s are mostly responsible for human trafficking...are you as biased as the police in this story insofar as you’d be more likely to stop Eastern European’s to look in the trunk of their car for human bodies?

Just asking.

Texas doesn't allow for stop and frisk anyway. It requires probable cause to pull someone over, so if Walter was working in Texas he couldn't pull someone over without probable cause. Your husband should be able to explain this. We don't even do DWI checkpoints like other states.
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Post by Original Quill Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:52 am

(CNN)Black and Hispanic drivers in Austin, Texas, continue to be pulled over by police disproportionately, according to a city report released Thursday.

"Probable cause?" I've heard it all before. Rolling Eyes

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