BBC bias explained

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https://youtu.be/aucDmK5E4bU

As a newbie, you dont understand the context...


Whenever Andy was asked a question that he found impossible to answer without exposing himself to be a liar or a hypocrite etc... then he would run away from the thread... and he has done this on a number of forums...


My post was not a reference to Andy leaving this forum...

Ok. It just seemed a bit unfriendly.
Which is the opposite to what the forum promised.

Andy is one of the most unfriendly posters on here... his insults and foul mouthed accusations are legendary on here...

Never seen him post, but I prefer to judge others by how I see them and how they speak to me rather than relying the words of others, who may or may not have an agenda and personal animosity.

All his posts are there in his posting history if you care to have a read through...


It wobt take you long to find some prime examples of his nastiness...

Tommy Monk wrote:
Andy is one of the most unfriendly posters on here... his insults and foul mouthed accusations are legendary on here...

Andy, he's a great poster. Tom, you just don't know how to debate, and he gets you every time.

The reason why you don't get along is he's given to rational thinking, and you're a RW'er. The two don't mix.

Hardly.. the opposite is true... I do rational thinking... he is just a repeater of failed left wing hyperbole and waffle...


He gets owned every time he posts to me... then he gets angry and runs away...

You think you are rational? Not hardly. You post cheap RW shit, and even then you don't understand it.

Tommy Monk wrote:


Andy is one of the most unfriendly posters on here... his insults and foul mouthed accusations are legendary on here...

I don’t agree with that. He’s not unfriendly at all. Perhaps he’s sharp-tongued but he’s not nasty.

eddie wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


Andy is one of the most unfriendly posters on here... his insults and foul mouthed accusations are legendary on here...

I don’t agree with that. He’s not unfriendly at all.  Perhaps he’s sharp-tongued but he’s not nasty.

He is to me...

And me !

Tommy Monk wrote:


https://youtu.be/aucDmK5E4bU

Both RW & LW accuse the BBC of bias. So they have probably got it just about right.

I hardly ever watch tv but I've always paid the licence. I did really enjoy Dr Who and Call the Midwife the last time I watched tv, last sunday.

In Their Own Words

When people ask for evidence of an institutional Left-wing bias at the BBC, this is the place to go for evidence. Out of the mouths of Beeboids….

The BBC is “a publicly-funded urban organisation with an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large”.

All this, he said, “creates an innate liberal bias inside the BBC”.

–Andrew Marr

“It’s a bit like walking into a Sunday meeting of the Flat Earth Society. As they discuss great issues of the day, they discuss them from the point of view that the earth is flat.

“If someone says, ‘No, no, no, the earth is round!’, they think this person is an extremist. That’s what it’s like for someone with my right-of-centre views working inside the BBC.”

– Jeff Randall, former BBC business editor

By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. ­Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on ­running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.

–  Peter Sissons, Former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter

 “In the BBC I joined 30 years ago [as a production trainee, in 1979], there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people’s personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left. The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher.

“Now it is a completely different generation. There is much less overt tribalism among the young journalists who work for the BBC. It is like the New Statesman, which used to be various shades of soft and hard left and is now more technocratic. We’re like that, too.”

– Mark Thomspon, former BBC Director General

“I do remember… the corridors of Broadcasting House were strewn with empty champagne bottles. I’ll always remember that”

– Jane Garvey, Radio 4 presenter, recalling Tony Blair’s election victory in 1997

I absorbed and expressed all the accepted BBC attitudes: hostility to, or at least suspicion of, America, monarchy, government, capitalism, empire, banking and the defence establishment, and in favour of the Health Service, state welfare, the social sciences, the environment and state education. But perhaps our most powerful antagonism was directed at advertising. This is not surprising; commercial television was the biggest threat the BBC had ever had to face.

– Sir Antony Jay, former BBC producer and creator, inter alia, of “Yes, (Prime) Minister”

“Liberal sceptical humanists tend to dominate television”.

The “default position in broadcasting” – when covering issues such as gay marriage and the Roman Catholic position on IVF – revolved around human rights, and that opponents should not be treated as “lunatics”.

“All I’m saying is, if you have at the centre of News an editor, he could explain why people in particular areas…are motivated, why they behave as they do and I think that would just increase understanding.”

– Roger Bolton, Radio 4 presenter and former head of Panorama and Nationwide

“And, in the tone of what we say about America, we have a tendency to scorn and deride. We don’t give America any kind of moral weight in our broadcasts.”

– Justin Webb (pg. 66), Today presenter and former BBC North America editor

“We need to foster peculiarity, idiosyncrasy, stubborn-mindedness, left-of-centre thinking.”

– Ben Stephenson, BBC controller of drama commissioning

Interesting read...

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/what-is-the-loneliest-job-in-britain-being-a-tory-at-the-bbc-7245499.html

And...


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/john-humphrys-radio-4-retires-bbc-bias-left-wing-liberal-today-programme-a9114711.html

We were discussing Aitken's thesis, tommy. Have you given up on that?

It seems like you have abandoned him and given in. You are now seeking help from others.

Hardly quill... the standard article is by Aitkin...


Or didn't you read it...!?


And john Humphreys is another ling serving big hitter for the bbc...


I am just showing a wide range of evidence...

Tommy Monk wrote:Hardly quill... the standard article is by Aitkin...

Or didn't you read it...!?

And john Humphreys is another ling serving big hitter for the bbc...

I am just showing a wide range of evidence...

You've changed the subject.  Haha...in the military that is called: "mission creep".

What it shows is that either you didn't read the Aitken's article, and don't know what it says, or you are conceding that it is erroneous.

So...next?

Oh dear...


The op subject is the same... and I have provided another article from Aitkin which elaborates further on the subject...


Everyone can see that you are talking shit!!!


I have provided plenty of other corroborating quotes from a large number of other high profile BBC big wigs too...!


The evidence is overwhelming!!!

It amuses me when people who live thousands of miles away from the UK,profess to know more about our Broadcasters than we, who live on the "spot" as it were !

nicko wrote:It amuses me when people who live thousands of miles away from the UK,profess to know more about our Broadcasters than we, who live on the "spot" as it were !

No need to fret, nick. It's the age of the Internet. We have many BBC channels here. The UK is an open book....and you are wearing tighty-whiteys.

nicko wrote:It amuses me when people who live thousands of miles away from the UK,profess to know more about our Broadcasters than we, who live on the "spot" as it were !

It amuses me that some people think the internet makes no difference to how much people can know about other countries.

What,I find intriguing is that we have really only had the internet, or information superhighway as it was first called, for about 22 years.
I wonder how it will progress and develop over the next 20 . I worry it will become too intrusive, automatically handling all or a lot of your personal and sensitive information  such as bank accounts.
There seems no limits to what it will be capable of, and there doesn't seem to be the will to fully regulate it.
In short, is Big Brother really on the rise?

It amuses me that people who live thousands of miles away think they get every last bit of information from the Internet, they don't !

nicko wrote:It amuses me that people who live thousands of miles away think they get every last bit of information from the Internet, they don't !

If those broadcasters broadcast outside the UK, which nearly all of them do, then we do

Also, we have access to, you know, real people - friends and family - who are in the UK.

OK !