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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:14 pm

There are dozens of disciplines and subdisciplines within the broad ambit of climate science, studying everything from ancient geology to the spread of disease. But one discipline in particular is exposed to intense public scrutiny, the subject of long-running political and legal disputes: modeling.

As interesting as the details of climate science may be, what society most needs from it is an answer to a simple question: What the hell is going to happen? What are we in for? That’s the question models seek to answer.

It turns out that attempting to understand, model, and predict the entire global biophysical/atmospheric system is complicated. It’s especially tricky because there’s no way to run tests. There’s no second Earth to use as an experimental control group. The best scientists can do is use their knowledge of climate history and climate physics to build models of Earth systems and then test the models against future emission scenarios.

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/12/4/20991315/climate-change-prediction-models-accurate
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Post by Lurker Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:34 pm

Repugnuts claim there is no such thing as global warming. They don't believe much of anything that's the truth.
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Post by 'Wolfie Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:39 am

sunny

I know that "climate change" is real, and that the world is warming at an accelerating rate, simply from spending so much time out in the real world over my life time, and closer to 'nature' than many people that I know...

And yet those idiot denialists keep on flooding the letters pages, the airwaves, and the internet, with their mindless parroted coal&oil company-inspired drivel day in and day out..

And as long as the corporate polluters and their financiers "own" so many politicians around the world, their denialist nonsense will keep on flowing.
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Post by Lurker Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:05 pm

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Post by The Devil, You Know Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:25 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
There are dozens of disciplines and subdisciplines within the broad ambit of climate science, studying everything from ancient geology to the spread of disease. But one discipline in particular is exposed to intense public scrutiny, the subject of long-running political and legal disputes: modeling.

As interesting as the details of climate science may be, what society most needs from it is an answer to a simple question: What the hell is going to happen? What are we in for? That’s the question models seek to answer.

It turns out that attempting to understand, model, and predict the entire global biophysical/atmospheric system is complicated. It’s especially tricky because there’s no way to run tests. There’s no second Earth to use as an experimental control group. The best scientists can do is use their knowledge of climate history and climate physics to build models of Earth systems and then test the models against future emission scenarios.

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/12/4/20991315/climate-change-prediction-models-accurate
the models appear to be as accurate as the hockeystick. GIGO
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Post by The Devil, You Know Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:26 pm

Lurker wrote:Repugnuts claim there is no such thing as global warming. They don't believe much of anything that's the truth.
there is no such thing as proven man made global warming, thats the difference.
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Post by The Devil, You Know Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:27 pm

'Wolfie wrote:sunny

I know that "climate change" is real, and that the world is warming at an accelerating rate, simply from spending so much time out in the real world over my life time, and closer to 'nature' than many people that I know...

And yet those idiot denialists keep on flooding the letters pages, the airwaves, and the internet, with their mindless parroted coal&oil company-inspired drivel day in and day out..

And as long as the corporate polluters and their financiers "own" so many politicians around the world, their denialist nonsense will keep on flowing.
the reason for the warming is that big ball of fusing hydrogen in the sky.
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:32 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
'Wolfie wrote:sunny

I know that "climate change" is real, and that the world is warming at an accelerating rate, simply from spending so much time out in the real world over my life time, and closer to 'nature' than many people that I know...

And yet those idiot denialists keep on flooding the letters pages, the airwaves, and the internet, with their mindless parroted coal&oil company-inspired drivel day in and day out..

And as long as the corporate polluters and their financiers "own" so many politicians around the world, their denialist nonsense will keep on flowing.
the reason for the warming is that big ball of fusing hydrogen in the sky.

https://globalwarming-facts.info/causes-global-warming-human/

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Post by 'Wolfie Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:56 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
'Wolfie wrote:sunny

I know that "climate change" is real, and that the world is warming at an accelerating rate, simply from spending so much time out in the real world over my life time, and closer to 'nature' than many people that I know...

And yet those idiot denialists keep on flooding the letters pages, the airwaves, and the internet, with their mindless parroted coal&oil company-inspired drivel day in and day out..

And as long as the corporate polluters and their financiers "own" so many politicians around the world, their denialist nonsense will keep on flowing.

the reason for the warming is that big ball of fusing hydrogen in the sky.
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You mean that same sun that has been there for the past few billion years  ???

If only you had managed to fit some science into your pathetic corporatist/redneck education --  instead of only learning how to exploit other peoples, spreading hate and division, and reading up on the joys of unregulated 'dog-eat-dog' free market paradises --  you would have some understanding of just what the 'Greenhouse Effect' is, and how much human activity (industry, pollution, deforestation, loss of biodiversity and biomass, overpopulation..) has managed to accelerate 'climate change' over the last couple of centuries..

Unfortunately, you obviously don't care what kind of world your grandchildren will inherit.
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Post by The Devil, You Know Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:37 pm

'Wolfie wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:

the reason for the warming is that big ball of fusing hydrogen in the sky.
Arrow

You mean that same sun that has been there for the past few billion years  ???


If only you had managed to fit some science into your pathetic corporatist/redneck education --  instead of only learning how to exploit other peoples, spreading hate and division, and reading up on the joys of unregulated 'dog-eat-dog' free market paradises --  you would have some understanding of just what the 'Greenhouse Effect' is, and how much human activity (industry, pollution, deforestation, loss of biodiversity and biomass, overpopulation..) has managed to accelerate 'climate change' over the last couple of centuries..

Unfortunately, you obviously don't care what kind of world your grandchildren will inherit.
yes that's the one. The one that drives our entire climate.
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Post by Guest Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:42 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
'Wolfie wrote:
Arrow

You mean that same sun that has been there for the past few billion years  ???


If only you had managed to fit some science into your pathetic corporatist/redneck education --  instead of only learning how to exploit other peoples, spreading hate and division, and reading up on the joys of unregulated 'dog-eat-dog' free market paradises --  you would have some understanding of just what the 'Greenhouse Effect' is, and how much human activity (industry, pollution, deforestation, loss of biodiversity and biomass, overpopulation..) has managed to accelerate 'climate change' over the last couple of centuries..

Unfortunately, you obviously don't care what kind of world your grandchildren will inherit.
yes that's the one. The one that drives our entire climate.

Plenty of videos to watch here

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Post by Lurker Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:02 pm

brain-dead republicans keep their heads in the sand. They don't give a shit what happens to the earth.
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Post by 'Wolfie Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:20 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
'Wolfie wrote:sunny

I know that "climate change" is real, and that the world is warming at an accelerating rate, simply from spending so much time out in the real world over my life time, and closer to 'nature' than many people that I know...

And yet those idiot denialists keep on flooding the letters pages, the airwaves, and the internet, with their mindless parroted coal&oil company-inspired drivel day in and day out..

And as long as the corporate polluters and their financiers "own" so many politicians around the world, their denialist nonsense will keep on flowing.
the reason for the warming is that big ball of fusing hydrogen in the sky.
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Notice that the gormless and spineless uneducated fuckwit DYKnose has pulled up his skirts and done a bolt from here, yet again,  when his attempts at deflecting attention away from his beloved oil company bosses ongoing efforts at destroying our planet, fell over in a heap...

Doubling down on his usual efforts at totally denying any climate change,  he then tried to muddy the waters further by attempting to move the discussion onto how he personally considers the plastic pollution in the oceans  to be the world's #1 enviro' problem (!)  --  without providing one iota of substantiation (as per usual)..

When I started systematically destroying his bullshit claims, he then started in on his personal attacks, claiming that I said/believed/claimed things that I never have.   True to form there was no action from Victor against DYKface, no comments against his behaviour from Fred or Tommy, and nicko even wanting me basemented for insulting his belover guru T'DYK.

I saw a very interesting video on YouTube last week from the current efforts on cleaning up the NE Pacific "plastic patch" rubbish dump  --  which totally destroys all of DYKheads lies :

https://youtu.be/FrpCk-ZfsrI


Not only does that report totally destroy DYK's lies,  but it also shows just what a couple of total fools Maddog and gelico look now, for both supporting DYKbrain's idiotic rants and for their personal attacks on what I said back then :
*  the cleanups' first successfu haul was only 3 weeks ago
*  last years efforts failed
*  so far, they have collected only 1/2 a container load..
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