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Proof That The far left Labour Partyy hates Jews- Revealed: A day after Corbyn said ISIS bride should be let back into UK... how Labour's John McDonnell once called for anyone who fought for Israel to be stripped of their British citizenship
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They are happy to allow in ISIS terrorists, but think British Jews or British citisens should be stripped of their citizenship
Simple for like me having the ability to have dual citizenship. If I went to fight for the Irish and maltese military defense forces
This is how you now know that labour is antisemtic. They constantly want to help terrorists and class jews that fight to defend the state of Israel as comparable to ISIS terrorists. ISIS who beheaded, raped and enslaved countless females
They are happy to allow in ISIS terrorists, but think British Jews or British citisens should be stripped of their citizenship
Simple for like me having the ability to have dual citizenship. If I went to fight for the Irish and maltese military defense forces
This is how you now know that labour is antisemtic. They constantly want to help terrorists and class jews that fight to defend the state of Israel as comparable to ISIS terrorists. ISIS who beheaded, raped and enslaved countless females
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Ridiculous. Israel is not synonymous with semitism.
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Original Quill wrote:Ridiculous. Israel is not synonymous with semitism.
It can very well be wqith antisemitism
Nothing ridiclous about defending Jews from anti-semitism
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Jews are not synonymous with Israel. Israel is a political state. Judaism is a religion.
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Original Quill wrote:Jews are not synonymous with Israel. Israel is a political state. Judaism is a religion.
Israel is the Jewish state
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phildidge wrote:Original Quill wrote:Jews are not synonymous with Israel. Israel is a political state. Judaism is a religion.
Israel is the Jewish state
Sooo...it's a theocracy, not a democracy, eh?
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Original Quill wrote:phildidge wrote:
Israel is the Jewish state
Sooo...it's a theocracy, not a democracy, eh?
How does being Jewish become a Theocracy, unless you deny Jews as an ethnic group?
Do you claim Bosnia, Kosova are Theocracies then?
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phildidge wrote:Original Quill wrote:
Sooo...it's a theocracy, not a democracy, eh?
How does being Jewish become a Theocracy, unless you deny Jews as an ethnic group?
Do you claim Bosnia, Kosova are Theocracies then?
Well, nobody is claiming that Bosnia and Kosovo are linked to any religion. It's just you, claiming that Israel is a Jewish state. That makes it a theocracy.
I don't know of any ethnic group calling itself Jewish, not also affiliated with Judaism, the religion. So, calling it an ethnic group does not successfully duck the theocracy issue.
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How does being Jewish become a Theocracy, unless you deny Jews as an ethnic group?
Do you claim Bosnia, Kosova are Theocracies then?
Well, nobody is claiming that Bosnia and Kosovo are linked to any religion. It's just you, claiming that Israel is a Jewish state. That makes it a theocracy.
I don't know of any ethnic group calling itself Jewish, not also affiliated with Judaism, the religion. So, calling it an ethnic group does not successfully duck the theocracy issue.
Israel is a jewish state. Just like the US is an American state. Just as France is a French state. Just as Italy is an Italian state etc. To say it makes Israel a Theocracy is actually denying Jews being an ethnic group.
Or do you not realise this and yes jews are unique being that they can be either a religious or ethnically jewish
You do realise that there is many athiest Jews?
Why is it that in Israel all citizens, including those of other etnnic and religious groups have equal rights?
A Theocracy is based only on religious laws and Israel is not based on religious laws, but vastly secular laws
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phil wrote:Israel is a jewish state. Just like the US is an American state. Just as France is a French state. Just as Italy is an Italian state etc. To say it makes Israel a Theocracy is actually denying Jews being an ethnic group.
So...
The US is an American state...geography.
France is a French state...geography.
Italy is an Italian state...geography.
Israel is a Jewish state...theocracy. No one is referencing geography in describing Israel. The reference, by you, is to a religion. Ergo...
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Original Quill wrote:phil wrote:Israel is a jewish state. Just like the US is an American state. Just as France is a French state. Just as Italy is an Italian state etc. To say it makes Israel a Theocracy is actually denying Jews being an ethnic group.
So...
The US is an American state...geography.
France is a French state...geography.
Italy is an Italian state...geography.
Israel is a Jewish state...theocracy. No one is referencing geography in describing Israel. The reference, by you, is to a religion. Ergo...
lol see how you decide what is theocray and again based on a jewish identity?
You are again litterly denying an ethnic Jewish identity
Its what caused and created the Holocaust in the first place
Or do you not realise that?
Again you do not deny any ethnic group as a nation except the Jews
Hence antisemitic
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phil wrote:You are again litterly denying an ethnic Jewish identity
I don't see how. If a state identifies itself by its geography, it is a location for anyone. If it identifies itself by its ethnicity, is a state for that ethnicity. If it identifies itself by its religion, it is a theocracy. The point is, if a state describes itself by ethnicity or religion, that's as distinguished from all others not of that persuasion.
Some in America want to define the US as a white national state. That would mean that it is a state only of those who are white. Others can visit, and even live there, but it is not a state for them. They are outsiders.
If you say that Israel is a Jewish state, that's as against all others. Thus, it is not the state of outsiders who are not Jewish. It’s in the definition. The holocaust was caused by people who defined themselves as solely Aryan, so there's that outsider label that was applied to Jews. I think you are the one who is staging the conditions for the holocaust.
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Original Quill wrote:phil wrote:You are again litterly denying an ethnic Jewish identity
I don't see how. If a state identifies itself by its geography, it is a location for anyone. If it identifies itself by its ethnicity, is a state for that ethnicity. If it identifies itself by its religion, it is a theocracy. The point is, if a state describes itself by ethnicity or religion, that's as distinguished from all others not of that persuasion.
You see this is why you are an antisemite
Just about nearly ever countries defines itself based on the majority ethnic group
Yet you only take issue when its the Jewish state
Hence antisemitism
Its not based simple on geography but an ethnic group
Is Ireland not the Irish state to you?
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phil wrote:Just about nearly ever countries defines itself based on the majority ethnic group
Hmmm...let's test this. Brazil is Portuguese-speaking, yet primarily black and native American in origin. It defies your assertion. So does Canada, the US, and New Zealand.
Some nations, or regions, are defined by outsiders. Westerners might have named the Chinese and Japanese, etc. It is only when you distinguish yourself from outsiders that you get into ethnicity and religion to name your state or region.
Israel named itself, and we are discussing the meaning of that definition. You can't have it two ways: either it is Jewish state, or it is an open, nonsectarian state.
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So I guess Quill views any referendum by the Scottish for independence as racist
I guess he must view the SNP as racist
I guess he must view the SNP as racist
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phildidge wrote:So I guess Quill views any referendum by the Scottish for independence as racist
I guess he must view the SNP as racist
Scotland is a location, not a people. Scotland began as the Dalradian tribe of Irish, which merged into an amalgamation of two Celtic-speaking peoples, the Picts and Gaels, who founded the Kingdom of Scotland (or Alba) in the 9th century.
Add to that, that King of Scots, David I, who was raised in England, started the Davidian Revolution in 1124, in which he invited Anglo-Norman families from France and England to settle in lands he granted them to spread a ruling class loyal to him.
So, you see, Scotland is not a people, but a location and, quite naturally, an accent. The Davidian migration, in particular, assured that the nation had a multi-ethnic population.
By comparison, Israel, as you so readily offer, is a Jewish state. Even if there is a multi-ethnic composition to it, the identification is of the Jewish religion, and the Jewish ethnicity. It is a state that excludes all others, or at least relegates all others as not of our people! This is seen in the confiscation and appropriation of lands long settled by non-Jewish people, and the giving of such lands over to Jewish people. It is a priority, if not legal, that certainly is actual.
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Original Quill wrote:phildidge wrote:So I guess Quill views any referendum by the Scottish for independence as racist
I guess he must view the SNP as racist
Scotland is a location, not a people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_people
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phildidge wrote:Original Quill wrote:
Scotland is a location, not a people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_people
As your own cite makes plain:
Wiki wrote:In modern usage, "Scottish people" or "Scots" is used to refer to anyone whose linguistic, cultural, family ancestral or genetic origins are from Scotland [or, in other words, the location]. The Latin word Scoti originally referred to the Gaels, but came to describe all inhabitants of Scotland. Considered pejorative, the term Scotch has also been used for Scottish people, primarily outside Scotland.
You prove my case for me. By contrast, Israel is more limiting: either the Jewish religion, or Jewish ethnicity. To put it bluntly, there is in Israel a caste system, in which the Jewish (religion or ethnicity) are at the top.
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Original Quill wrote:phildidge wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_people
As your own cite makes plain:Wiki wrote:In modern usage, "Scottish people" or "Scots" is used to refer to anyone whose linguistic, cultural, family ancestral or genetic origins are from Scotland [or, in other words, the location]. The Latin word Scoti originally referred to the Gaels, but came to describe all inhabitants of Scotland. Considered pejorative, the term Scotch has also been used for Scottish people, primarily outside Scotland.
You prove my case for me. By contrast, Israel is more limiting: either the Jewish religion, or Jewish ethnicity. To put it bluntly, there is in Israel a caste system, in which the Jewish (religion or ethnicity) are at the top.
lol, you claimed there is no such thing as scottish people
The Scots are an ethnic group and people.
I tell you waht, go up to a scotsman and tell him he does not exist
I imagine he would give you a glaswegian kiss
Seriously jon on you racist antisemitic twat. I do not hav e time for racist imbiciles like yourself
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phil wrote:The Scots are an ethnic group and people.
Nonsense, your own citation says Scotland is many, many ethnic groups, all coming together in a single location. Don't you read?
This not the same as Israel, which you describe as a "Jewish state". I quite agree about Israel, which I have described as a "caste system'--not a democracy.
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Original Quill wrote:phil wrote:The Scots are an ethnic group and people.
Nonsense, your own citation says Scotland is many, many ethnic groups, all coming together in a single location. Don't you read?
This not the same as Israel, which you describe as a "Jewish state". I quite agree about Israel, which I have described as a "caste system'--not a democracy.
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Jews or Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group and a nation, originating from the Israelites and Hebrews of historical Israel and Judah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews
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phildidge wrote:Jews or Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group and a nation, originating from the Israelites and Hebrews of historical Israel and Judah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews
All the more reason that Israel should not be held to be the "Jewish state". Like the Aryan state of Germany, circa 1934, it says all others need not apply, and those already here, do not expect the same rights and privileges.
Not so good in a world that looks with disfavor on demagoguery and despots.
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Original Quill wrote:phildidge wrote:Jews or Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group and a nation, originating from the Israelites and Hebrews of historical Israel and Judah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews
All the more reason that Israel should not be held to be the "Jewish state". Like the Aryan state of Germany, circa 1934, it says all others need not apply, and those already here, do not expect the same rights and privileges.
Not so good in a world that looks with disfavor on demagoguery and despots.
Yet more antisemitsm, comparing Jews and Israel to nazi germany
Even though just about every country is defined by the majority ethnic group
This is again how easy it is to expose you as a vile antisemitic Nazi Quill
Israel is made up of many ethnic and religious groupds who qall have equal rights
Opps
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I believe in Israel, Jews and Arabs have equal voting rights ?
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phildidge wrote:Original Quill wrote:
All the more reason that Israel should not be held to be the "Jewish state". Like the Aryan state of Germany, circa 1934, it says all others need not apply, and those already here, do not expect the same rights and privileges.
Not so good in a world that looks with disfavor on demagoguery and despots.
Yet more antisemitsm, comparing Jews and Israel to nazi germany
Even though just about every country is defined by the majority ethnic group
This is again how easy it is to expose you as a vile antisemitic Nazi Quill
Israel is made up of many ethnic and religious groupds who qall have equal rights
Opps
Complete rubble...word salad, with no substantiation. Just dictator didge, declaring his pronouncements.
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nicko wrote:I believe in Israel, Jews and Arabs have equal voting rights ?
Correct and is one of the few places in the Middle east where Arab women are allowed to vote.
Arabs hold seats in the Knesset, are judges, police officers, Professors etc.
Sadly some people continue to lie to further enhance their antisemitism
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nicko wrote:I believe in Israel, Jews and Arabs have equal voting rights ?
Votes can be rigged. Ask yourself, do Arabs have the same land-holding rights? Seems in Israel Arabs have been left out in that department.
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Original Quill wrote:nicko wrote:I believe in Israel, Jews and Arabs have equal voting rights ?
Votes can be rigged. Ask yourself, do Arabs have the same land-holding rights? Seems in Israel Arabs have been left out in that department.
Wow more antisemitic troupes, assuming Jews are rigging elections now
seriously, wow
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phil wrote:assuming Jews are rigging elections
Israel rigged elections. Israel is not synonymous with Judaism.
And Israel stole land from Arabs, particularly under Netanyahu. They stole the Sinai, parts of Jordan and Golan Heights. They used the Sinai and parts of Jordan to extort concessions from Egypt/Jordan. And they built luxury, high-rise condos for themselves in the Golan Heights. "West Bank", to Israel, is but an financial institution to finance those condos.
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Votes can be rigged. Ask yourself, do Arabs have the same land-holding rights? Seems in Israel Arabs have been left out in that department.
Wow more antisemitic troupes, assuming Jews are rigging elections now
seriously, wow
Seems Quill needs to go to specsavers
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phil wrote:assuming Jews are rigging elections
Israel rigged elections. Israel is not synonymous with Judaism.
And Israel stole land from Arabs, particularly under Netanyahu. They stole the Sinai, parts of Jordan and Golan Heights. They used the Sinai and parts of Jordan to extort concessions from Egypt/Jordan. And they built luxury, high-rise condos for themselves in the Golan Heights. "West Bank", to Israel, is but an financial institution to finance those condos.
No fancy graphs. No colorful maps, pleasing to children. Just the facts, ma'am.
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Wow more antisemitic troupes, assuming Jews are rigging elections now
seriously, wow
Seems Quill needs to go to specsavers
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No fancy graphs. No colorful maps, pleasing to children. Just the facts, ma'am.
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I gave hard facts and you simple do not like the truth, because again you hate and are racist towards Israeli's
Hence you continually lie, use antisemitic troupes.
So its easy to expose your bullshit everytime,
Hence you continually lie, use antisemitic troupes.
So its easy to expose your bullshit everytime,
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Again, Quill wins with his hard facts, and fierce attention to correct detail.
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