Apparantly the Name Fredo is equivalent and racist as the N word
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Apparantly the Name Fredo is equivalent and racist as the N word
The CNN host said ‘It’s like the N-word for’ Italian Americans after a man at a bar appeared to insult him with a Godfather reference
A video emerged on Monday night in which CNN anchor Chris Cuomo can be seen engaged in a tense confrontation with an unknown man and threatening to throw him down some stairs after the man called him “Fredo”.
In the video, reportedly taken in a bar on Long Island on Sunday, Cuomo is irate over a perceived insult from the man, an apparent reference to a character from the Godfather film. Cuomo suggests in the video it was meant as derogatory term for his Italian heritage, similar to the “N-word” for African Americans.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/aug/13/video-shows-chris-cuomo-threatening-man-who-called-him-fredo
A video emerged on Monday night in which CNN anchor Chris Cuomo can be seen engaged in a tense confrontation with an unknown man and threatening to throw him down some stairs after the man called him “Fredo”.
In the video, reportedly taken in a bar on Long Island on Sunday, Cuomo is irate over a perceived insult from the man, an apparent reference to a character from the Godfather film. Cuomo suggests in the video it was meant as derogatory term for his Italian heritage, similar to the “N-word” for African Americans.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/aug/13/video-shows-chris-cuomo-threatening-man-who-called-him-fredo
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There are lots of insult words. There's also 'whop' for Italian, 'cunt' for women, 'wetback' for a Mexican, 'Ivan' or 'Rasputin' for a Russian, 'Hermann' or a 'Hun' for a German, 'Svenne' or a 'Hum" for a Swede, 'Chink' for Chinese, 'Togo' for Japanese, 'Flip' for a Filipino...god, the list goes on.
Italians were the last immigrants to receive the 'Trump' immigration treatment, so they are still a bit sensitive. And we haven't even covered the Irish. My mother, living in Boston, would often speak of 'those shanty Irish' for those in south Boston, across the Charles River...and 'Mick' was also slang for the Irish.
'Fredo' is a fake invention of Hollywood. It's still only a metaphor, not yet reached the status of a real ethnic pronoun.
Italians were the last immigrants to receive the 'Trump' immigration treatment, so they are still a bit sensitive. And we haven't even covered the Irish. My mother, living in Boston, would often speak of 'those shanty Irish' for those in south Boston, across the Charles River...and 'Mick' was also slang for the Irish.
'Fredo' is a fake invention of Hollywood. It's still only a metaphor, not yet reached the status of a real ethnic pronoun.
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I'm a Fredo - and proud of it.
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Fredo is very big and bold when he has loads of bodyguards around him to back him up.
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As someone who was married into an Italian family (Ben even knows my ex's cousin who is actually named Vinnie), I can assure you Fredo means nothing. Cuomo is just a little a bitch.
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Fredo sounds like a good name for a dyslexic Hobbit.
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Re: Apparantly the Name Fredo is equivalent and racist as the N word
I wonder why the man called him Fredo, if it isn't an insult? Seems like a weird thing to do.
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Cuomo's analogy to the N-word drew condemnation, with critics saying it was inappropriate to compare Fredo to the explosive and offensive term once used to insult black slaves.
Citing Oprah Winfrey, journalist Yashar Ali wrote on Twitter that "the N-word is the last thing black men heard before they were strung up from a tree... Nothing is comparable."
Anthony Tamburri, The Devil You Know of the John D Calandra Italian American Institute at Queens College City University of New York, said that he and his colleagues spoke about the incident, and do not find Fredo personally offensive, but recognise the potential malice behind the term.
"The use of the word Fredo as an ethnic slur... is a regionalism," said Mr Tamburri, who is a third-generation Italian American. "It's definitely something more local than it is national."
In some parts of the US, Italian Americans would see the term as neutral, he added.
"Italians for the past 140 years have been accused of many things, including being lazy, and therefore I can see how lazy transfers to incompetence, as Fredo was seen in the Godfather," Mr Tamburri said.
"He's the older weak brother... He's not the brightest, not the strongest," he continued.
Mr Tamburri suggested that Cuomo's outrage may be rooted in the notion that he is the weak link of his family, similar to Fredo of the fictionalised Corleones.
"It's possible to see how Chris Cuomo may have taken it personally as well considering his father was one of the United States' best contemporary orators and considering his brother is the Governor of New York," Mr Tamburri said, referring to Cuomo's famous family members. His father, Mario Cuomo, was a former governor of New York and his brother, Andrew Cuomo, currently serves in the same role.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49335862
The later makes the most sense.
As far as i am concerned this is again a glowing example of how the left act today with victimology
Citing Oprah Winfrey, journalist Yashar Ali wrote on Twitter that "the N-word is the last thing black men heard before they were strung up from a tree... Nothing is comparable."
Anthony Tamburri, The Devil You Know of the John D Calandra Italian American Institute at Queens College City University of New York, said that he and his colleagues spoke about the incident, and do not find Fredo personally offensive, but recognise the potential malice behind the term.
"The use of the word Fredo as an ethnic slur... is a regionalism," said Mr Tamburri, who is a third-generation Italian American. "It's definitely something more local than it is national."
In some parts of the US, Italian Americans would see the term as neutral, he added.
"Italians for the past 140 years have been accused of many things, including being lazy, and therefore I can see how lazy transfers to incompetence, as Fredo was seen in the Godfather," Mr Tamburri said.
"He's the older weak brother... He's not the brightest, not the strongest," he continued.
Mr Tamburri suggested that Cuomo's outrage may be rooted in the notion that he is the weak link of his family, similar to Fredo of the fictionalised Corleones.
"It's possible to see how Chris Cuomo may have taken it personally as well considering his father was one of the United States' best contemporary orators and considering his brother is the Governor of New York," Mr Tamburri said, referring to Cuomo's famous family members. His father, Mario Cuomo, was a former governor of New York and his brother, Andrew Cuomo, currently serves in the same role.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49335862
The later makes the most sense.
As far as i am concerned this is again a glowing example of how the left act today with victimology
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"the left.." says Dodge..
As if he can automatically label Cuomo as a "leftie" from this one incident; while at the same time attempting a slur against all.left wingers off this one individual.
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"the left.." says Dodge..
As if he can automatically label Cuomo as a "leftie" from this one incident; while at the same time attempting a slur against all.left wingers off this one individual.
He is a lefty, that is basic common knowledge
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Fredo sounds like a good name for a dyslexic Hobbit.
That's bloody Fredophobia that is.............I insist that the moderators basement you with immediate effect.
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phildidge wrote:WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
"the left.." says Dodge..
As if he can automatically label Cuomo as a "leftie" from this one incident; while at the same time attempting a slur against all.left wingers off this one individual.
He is a lefty, that is basic common knowledge
No it isn't. Chris' father Mario was a conservative Democrat who served as governor of New York, Lt. Governor, and Secretary of State of NY.
Chris is Italian, ethnically, from Queens, a graduate of Yale University, perhaps the most conservative of the Ivy League Universities, and Fordham Law School. He is a licensed attorney.
After brief stints as anchor on ABC and CNN, and a stringer on MSNBC, where he was clearly too conservative, he became a correspondent and a political policy analyst for the Fox News channel.
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Original Quill wrote:phildidge wrote:
He is a lefty, that is basic common knowledge
No it isn't. Chris' father Mario was a conservative Democrat who served as governor of New York, Lt. Governor, and Secretary of State of NY.
Chris is Italian, ethnically, from Queens, a graduate of Yale University, perhaps the most conservative of the Ivy League Universities, and Fordham Law School. He is a licensed attorney.
After brief stints as anchor on ABC and CNN, and a stringer on MSNBC, where he was clearly too conservative, he became a correspondent and a political policy analyst for the Fox News channel.
He works at CNN.
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Maddog wrote:Original Quill wrote:
No it isn't. Chris' father Mario was a conservative Democrat who served as governor of New York, Lt. Governor, and Secretary of State of NY.
Chris is Italian, ethnically, from Queens, a graduate of Yale University, perhaps the most conservative of the Ivy League Universities, and Fordham Law School. He is a licensed attorney.
After brief stints as anchor on ABC and CNN, and a stringer on MSNBC, where he was clearly too conservative, he became a correspondent and a political policy analyst for the Fox News channel.
He works at CNN.
Among other news outlets.
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Original Quill wrote:Maddog wrote:
He works at CNN.
Among other news outlets.
Anyone that thinks Fredo is comparable to the N word. Is clearly a proponent of greivance studies and victimology
A.K.A. Lefty
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False equivalency. Everybody is entitled to their opinion on what is a slur, without any other association.
And Conflict Resolution is a legitimate university discipline. Good on them.
And Conflict Resolution is a legitimate university discipline. Good on them.
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Original Quill wrote:False equivalency. Everybody is entitled to their opinion on what is a slur, without any other association.
And Conflict Resolution is a legitimate university discipline. Good on them.
Its not false, as fredo is not equivelent to the N word. Hence it takes a view from victimology to believe this.
A.K.A lefty
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Original Quill wrote:Maddog wrote:
He works at CNN.
Among other news outlets.
"Works" is the present tense.
You were wrong, which is tough for a self proclaimed messiah to admit.
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Maddog wrote:Original Quill wrote:
Among other news outlets.
"Works" is the present tense.
You were wrong, which is tough for a self proclaimed messiah to admit.
It really depends on whether he is tied to a single employer by contract. (You would know that if you understood simple employment contract law, dummy.)
Chris has jumped around from NBC, ABC, to MSNBC, to CNBC, to Fox News, and thence to CNN. He seems to be unattached permanently to any particular outlet. But all of his jobs seem to have taken him to the right side.
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phildidge wrote:WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
"the left.." says Dodge..
As if he can automatically label Cuomo as a "leftie" from this one incident; while at the same time attempting a slur against all.left wingers off this one individual.
He is a lefty, that is basic common knowledge
Yeh, right Dodge...
"Only in Amerika.."
Never forget that far-right pundits in the USA regularly label centre-right people as "left wing"..
Barack Obama, the Clintons, Angela Merkel -- all of these are regularly tagged as "left" in the USA, but are recognised as 'moderate' to centre-right by the rest of the world.
You really must expand your horizons beyond your fave far-right nutters..
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WhoseYourWolfie wrote:phildidge wrote:
He is a lefty, that is basic common knowledge
Yeh, right Dodge...
"Only in Amerika.."
Never forget that far-right pundits in the USA regularly label centre-right people as "left wing"..
Barack Obama, the Clintons, Angela Merkel -- all of these are regularly tagged as "left" in the USA, but are recognised as 'moderate' to centre-right by the rest of the world.
You really must expand your horizons beyond your fave far-right nutters..
Let me explain again
Anyone that thinks Fredo is comparable to the N word. Is clearly a proponent of greivance studies and victimology
A.K.A. Lefty
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phil wrote:Anyone that thinks Fredo is comparable to the N word. Is clearly a proponent of greivance studies and victimology
As Ben says, wait until I put my boots on before you fling the shit.
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Original Quill wrote:phil wrote:Anyone that thinks Fredo is comparable to the N word. Is clearly a proponent of greivance studies and victimology
As Ben says, wait until I put my boots on before you fling the shit.
Nothing to do with slinging the shit
This imbicille has the minset of the school of grievance studies and victimology. Based around his absurd claim that now a name Fredo, is comparable to the N word. That only comes from this leftist teaching. You can deny all you like, but its a fact
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Original Quill wrote:Maddog wrote:
"Works" is the present tense.
You were wrong, which is tough for a self proclaimed messiah to admit.
It really depends on whether he is tied to a single employer by contract. (You would know that if you understood simple employment contract law, dummy.)
Chris has jumped around from NBC, ABC, to MSNBC, to CNBC, to Fox News, and thence to CNN. He seems to be unattached permanently to any particular outlet. But all of his jobs seem to have taken him to the right side.
Cool.
But he works for CNN, not Fox, making you wrong my lord and savior.
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Maddog wrote:Original Quill wrote:
It really depends on whether he is tied to a single employer by contract. (You would know that if you understood simple employment contract law, dummy.)
Chris has jumped around from NBC, ABC, to MSNBC, to CNBC, to Fox News, and thence to CNN. He seems to be unattached permanently to any particular outlet. But all of his jobs seem to have taken him to the right side.
Cool.
But he works for CNN, not Fox, making you wrong my lord and savior.
Meh...jobs come and go. His annual salary is $2.5 million, which makes him one of the most highly paid anchors on this side of the pond. Bodes well to bounce around, eh?
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Cool.
But he works for CNN, not Fox, making you wrong my lord and savior.
Meh...jobs come and go. His annual salary is $2.5 million, which makes him one of the most highly paid anchors on this side of the pond. Bodes well to bounce around, eh?
Cool.
But he works for CNN, not Fox, making you wrong my lord and savior.
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Maddog wrote:Original Quill wrote:
Meh...jobs come and go. His annual salary is $2.5 million, which makes him one of the most highly paid anchors on this side of the pond. Bodes well to bounce around, eh?
Cool.
But he works for CNN, not Fox, making you wrong my lord and savior.
Meh...jobs come and go. His annual salary is $2.5 million, which makes him one of the most highly paid anchors on this side of the pond. Bodes well to bounce around, eh?
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