Free speech....clampdown or not?
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Free speech....clampdown or not?
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So the latest 'celeb' in trouble for making an unfunny very un pc 'joke is Jimmy Carr (again) should he be forced to grovel and apologise? or should people be allowed to speak, or tell jokes unhindered by the distress they may cause?
The 'joke' was btw ..."Is a dwarf an abortion that made it?”
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/jimmy-carr-standup-tour-abortion-dwarf-joke-backlash-criticism-a8968486.html
So the latest 'celeb' in trouble for making an unfunny very un pc 'joke is Jimmy Carr (again) should he be forced to grovel and apologise? or should people be allowed to speak, or tell jokes unhindered by the distress they may cause?
The 'joke' was btw ..."Is a dwarf an abortion that made it?”
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/jimmy-carr-standup-tour-abortion-dwarf-joke-backlash-criticism-a8968486.html
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Re: Free speech....clampdown or not?
Raggamuffin wrote:phildidge wrote:
Who claimed anyone is obliged to laugh at something they do not personnally find funny?
Nobody claimed they had no sense of humour either.
Not even what I said.
Yes you did.
In reality many people do have a sense of humour failure and in reality. If we cannot laugh at ourselves. Then people will always lack a sense of humour.
Not even the same ball park, so stop lying.
Lacking something does not mean then you have no sense of humour
If I meant they have no sense of humour, I would say they have no sense of humour
As usual you are looking to twist things, because your arguments are poor
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Why ruin a debate by dissecting ONE word and trying to put a different slant on what you meant.
Rags isn't lying, she commented on what you said, and what you said was people who dont laugh... lack a sense of humour....which means they are without one.
I couldn't laugh at Carrs joke, not because I find it cruel or un pc, and not because I lack a sense of humour, but because it's just not funny to me, or I suspect the majority of people.
Would a joke about pregnant women being prescribed thalidomide and producing deformed offspring be funny to some I wonder?
Rags isn't lying, she commented on what you said, and what you said was people who dont laugh... lack a sense of humour....which means they are without one.
I couldn't laugh at Carrs joke, not because I find it cruel or un pc, and not because I lack a sense of humour, but because it's just not funny to me, or I suspect the majority of people.
Would a joke about pregnant women being prescribed thalidomide and producing deformed offspring be funny to some I wonder?
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Syl wrote:Why ruin a debate by dissecting ONE word and trying to put a different slant on what you meant.
Rags isn't lying, she commented on what you said, and what you said was people who dont laugh... lack a sense of humour....which means they are without one.
I couldn't laugh at Carrs joke, not because I find it cruel or un pc, and not because I lack a sense of humour, but because it's just not funny to me, or I suspect the majority of people.
Would a joke about pregnant women being prescribed thalidomide and producing deformed offspring be funny to some I wonder?
Really?
You are telling me what I mean by a word, even after me explaining exactly what I meant?
I am jnot ruining anything and have explain what i meant, so why are you now sticking your nose in to further fuel something you are completely wrong on. You nor rags get to deicde what I meant.
Do you understand that?
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phildidge wrote:Syl wrote:Why ruin a debate by dissecting ONE word and trying to put a different slant on what you meant.
Rags isn't lying, she commented on what you said, and what you said was people who dont laugh... lack a sense of humour....which means they are without one.
I couldn't laugh at Carrs joke, not because I find it cruel or un pc, and not because I lack a sense of humour, but because it's just not funny to me, or I suspect the majority of people.
Would a joke about pregnant women being prescribed thalidomide and producing deformed offspring be funny to some I wonder?
Really?
You are telling me what I mean by a word, even after me explaining exactly what I meant?
I am jnot ruining anything and have explain what i meant, so why are you now sticking your nose in to further fuel something you are completely wrong on. You nor rags get to deicde what I meant.
Do you understand that?
Well then use a word with the correct meaning to what you are trying to say in future to avoid further confusion.
"lack
/lak/
noun
noun: lack; plural noun: lacks
1.
the state of being without or not having enough of something.
"there is no lack of entertainment aboard ship"
synonyms:
absence, want, need, deficiency, dearth, insufficiency, shortage, shortfall, scarcity, paucity, unavailability, scarceness, undersupply, deficit, scantiness, sparseness, meagreness, inadequacy, shortness, deprivation, destitution, privation, famine, drought, poverty, non-existence, rareness, infrequency, uncommonness;"
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Re: Free speech....clampdown or not?
Syl wrote:phildidge wrote:
Really?
You are telling me what I mean by a word, even after me explaining exactly what I meant?
I am jnot ruining anything and have explain what i meant, so why are you now sticking your nose in to further fuel something you are completely wrong on. You nor rags get to deicde what I meant.
Do you understand that?
Well then use a word with the correct meaning to what you are trying to say in future to avoid further confusion.
I did use the correct meaning and clarified my meaning
the state of being without or not having enough of something.
be without or deficient in.
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Also, my point was in regards to people being able to laugh at themselves and those not able to lacking a sense of humour. But hey ho, as usual people try to twist something the other says.
"If we cannot laugh at ourselves. Then people will always lack a sense of humour."
See how badly Rags actually tries to twist what I had said
Hey ho
"If we cannot laugh at ourselves. Then people will always lack a sense of humour."
See how badly Rags actually tries to twist what I had said
Hey ho
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Re: Free speech....clampdown or not?
phildidge wrote:Also, my point was in regards to people being able to laugh at themselves and those not able to lacking a sense of humour. But hey ho, as usual people try to twist something the other says.
"If we cannot laugh at ourselves. Then people will always lack a sense of humour."
See how badly Rags actually tries to twist what I had said
Hey ho
It depends what the so called joke is, why should people laugh at themselves if the joke is cruel...should they be considered to have no sense of humour (lack one) if they dont find it amusing?
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Syl wrote:phildidge wrote:Also, my point was in regards to people being able to laugh at themselves and those not able to lacking a sense of humour. But hey ho, as usual people try to twist something the other says.
"If we cannot laugh at ourselves. Then people will always lack a sense of humour."
See how badly Rags actually tries to twist what I had said
Hey ho
It depends what the so called joke is, why should people laugh at themselves if the joke is cruel...should they be considered to have no sense of humour (lack one) if they dont find it amusing?
Well for example I laugh all the time when Andy takes the right piss out of me with poems. I dont take it as cruel, but in good humour.
Like I said, people should be able to laugh at themselves, otheriwse they lack a sense of humour. As the reality is Andy did so in jest and with no malice. If people do something in malice and hate, its not a joke.
Hope I have helped you understand herew
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I often smile at Andy's little odes too....so no Didge, you have taught me nothing .
Off out to enjoy the good weather...have a good day. x
Off out to enjoy the good weather...have a good day. x
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Syl wrote:I often smile at Andy's little odes too....so no Didge, you have taught me nothing .
Off out to enjoy the good weather...have a good day. x
Well that is a shame, you never learnt from an easy explanation
Have a good day
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