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Post by Guest Fri May 03, 2019 1:32 pm

Anti-vaxxers have an 'utter contempt for science' and should be considered on par with flat-Earthers and climate change deniers, an expert has claimed.

Dr Jonathan Kennedy, a lecturer in global health care at Queen Mary University of London, said the anti-vaxx movement is being fuelled by distrust of experts.

The same doubt in public health bodies has fed the flat-Earth and climate change denial movements, he argued.

Dr Kennedy told MailOnline: 'These are small groups of people who have an utter contempt for science.'

His comments come amid a worldwide measles outbreak, as cases this year are already 300 per cent higher than in 2018.

Dr Kennedy argued Britain has the capacity 'to eradicate the virus' completely, if parents only allowed their children to be vaccinated.

Speaking to MailOnline, Dr Kennedy said: 'People are increasingly hostile and suspicious towards experts.

'When we get to vaccines, we're suspicious around experts in this field - doctors advocating vaccines, big-pharma companies and public health bodies.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6960189/Anti-vaxxers-utter-contempt-science-expert-says.html

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Post by Original Quill Fri May 03, 2019 3:43 pm

This is the same as we are seeing in straight away politics...intolerance and tribalism.

'People are increasingly hostile and suspicious towards experts?"  It's the deep state all over again.

I found it interesting that Donald Trump, who has been touting this message of distrust, now comes out and says that vaccines are essential.

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Post by Guest Fri May 03, 2019 3:53 pm

Original Quill wrote:This is the same as we are seeing in straight away politics...intolerance and tribalism.

'People are increasingly hostile and suspicious towards experts?"  It's the deep state all over again.

I found it interesting that Donald Trump, who has been touting this message of distrust, now comes out and says that vaccines are essential.

Nothing to do with Trumnp.

What we are seeing is a new age, of where people think they know better than science and social media is aiding this mass paranoia and mistrust in people. Its growing all the time and people and we see it on here, constantly buy into claims made, without ever checking them. Or even applying the same methodology. To be skeptical of the known science and medical data, to the claims made. They are simple being easily led and swayed by people who are able to maipulate easily led people.

Mistrust in politics has gone for years, this is something entirely new and way above normal conspiracies. We are seeing a whole army of people out to mislead society, through poor and unfounded claims.

Its the new religion, its not based on any deity, but the same principles apply. Its faith based and not backed by science. It takes the view to distrust facts and view the world, as being controlled by those in power or with wealth.

These very same views, have been waht Jews have faced with antisemitism for centuries. That where people do well, its as if, they are seen as evil. I blame the left leaning education that is fueling this parnoia as it has for centuries with a view of those who do well. They sow the seeds of distrust in these people and the paranoia continues

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Post by Guest Fri May 03, 2019 3:58 pm

Original Quill wrote:This is the same as we are seeing in straight away politics...intolerance and tribalism.

'People are increasingly hostile and suspicious towards experts?"  It's the deep state all over again.

I found it interesting that Donald Trump, who has been touting this message of distrust, now comes out and says that vaccines are essential.

the experts are often nothing more than paid stooges, having a DR in front of your name gives you a degree of legitimacy, doesnt mean they are telling the truth

look at the "experts" who promised us that saddam had WMD's


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Post by Guest Fri May 03, 2019 4:06 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Original Quill wrote:This is the same as we are seeing in straight away politics...intolerance and tribalism.

'People are increasingly hostile and suspicious towards experts?"  It's the deep state all over again.

I found it interesting that Donald Trump, who has been touting this message of distrust, now comes out and says that vaccines are essential.

the experts are often nothing more than paid stooges, having a DR in front of your name gives you a degree of legitimacy, doesnt mean they are telling the truth

look at the "experts" who promised us that saddam had WMD's



See point proven Quill

See the paranoia in smellys claim?

He does not back up his claim, but instead tries to deligitimise now globally people who go through the longest training to become qualified in a profession. He uses where some are corrupt, or commit crimes, to then lay the most absurd claim based off this. Hence guilt by association fallacy. So based on this and the faults of some doctors, that they are all in on some conspiracy. 

You know, people that spend their lives, saving the lives of others

Smelly just elequently proved my point

1) Distrust.

Check

2) Paranoia

Check

3) They are being controlled by a higher power

Check

He then ends with fallacy. Claiming tyat because some world leaders, namely Bush and Blair lied, over the intelligence reports, that this some how proves, doctors are all involved in some world conspiracy

Like i said, this is the freightening scenario that the world is facing and there is countless other paranoid bunny rabbits like smelly

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Post by Guest Fri May 03, 2019 4:19 pm

I rest my case in regards to smelly and co

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6082015/Scientists-say-religious-people-likely-believe-CONSPIRACY-THEORIES.html

https://bigthink.com/bps-research-digest/bps-why-more-highly-educated-people-are-less-into-conspiracy-theories

Go figure

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