Hungary denying food to asylum seekers, say human rights groups

by eddie Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:54 pm

“The idea is that if you make people hungry enough, you’ll force them to go back to Serbia,”
~ Márta Pardavi, the co-chair of the Hungarian Helsinki Committee.

Hungary denying food to asylum seekers, say human rights groups 3af59d10

Hungarian authorities are systematically denying food to failed asylum seekers detained in the country’s border transit zones, say rights activists.

The policy, whereby adults whose asylum claims have been rejected are denied food, was described as “an unprecedented human rights violation in 21st-century Europe” by the Hungarian Helsinki Committee, a human rights organisation working to offer legal support to those in the transit zones.

It may amount to “inhuman treatment and even to torture” under international human rights law, said the organisation in a statement released this week. It documented eight cases involving 13 people this year when the Hungarian authorities had begun providing food to people only after the European court of human rights had intervened.
Some went without food for up to five days before the rulings were granted.

Read more https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/26/hungary-denying-food-to-asylum-seekers-say-human-rights-groups

What the actual fuck??? This made me really angry.

by Cass Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:24 am

That’s what happens when you elect a far-right fascist government.

by eddie Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:00 pm

I guess so. I wouldn’t know as I’m not familiar with Hungary’s policies or politics.

by Cass Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:06 pm

eddie wrote:I guess so. I wouldn’t know as I’m not familiar with Hungary’s policies or politics.

Look into it. It’s eye opening.

by Tommy Monk Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:43 pm

Yes... cos that picture isn't photoshopped at all, is it ..!?

And... shouldn't "asylum seekers" be claiming so in the first safe country they get to...!?

by eddie Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:48 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Yes... cos that picture isn't photoshopped at all, is it ..!?

And... shouldn't "asylum seekers" be claiming so in the first safe country they get to...!?

Listen, whether the photo is fake or not, or the fact you think asylum seekers should be going somewhere else or not, starving people is barbaric! Can you not see that?

Could you sit by and watch children starve? Could you?

by Guest Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:13 pm

eddie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Yes... cos that picture isn't photoshopped at all, is it ..!?

And... shouldn't "asylum seekers" be claiming so in the first safe country they get to...!?

Listen, whether the photo is fake or not, or the fact you think asylum seekers should be going somewhere else or not, starving people is barbaric! Can you not see that?

Could you sit by and watch children starve? Could you?

The world sits by whilst around 11 million children die each year. Of these around 3.1 die from poor nutrition

People are sitting by and watching including yourself and I all the time, doing nothing

Is this bad what is happenning in Hungary?

Absolutely, but its minute compared to where millions of children are suffering daily

by Ben Reilly Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:24 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Yes... cos that picture isn't photoshopped at all, is it ..!?

And... shouldn't "asylum seekers" be claiming so in the first safe country they get to...!?

It almost sounds as though you're saying in the same breath that this story is not real, but that it should be. Is that what you mean?

by eddie Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:46 pm

phildidge wrote:
eddie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Yes... cos that picture isn't photoshopped at all, is it ..!?

And... shouldn't "asylum seekers" be claiming so in the first safe country they get to...!?

Listen, whether the photo is fake or not, or the fact you think asylum seekers should be going somewhere else or not, starving people is barbaric! Can you not see that?

Could you sit by and watch children starve? Could you?

The world sits by whilst around 11 million children die each year. Of these around 3.1 die from poor nutrition

People are sitting by and watching including yourself and I all the time, doing nothing

Is this bad what is happenning in Hungary?

Absolutely, but its minute compared to where millions of children are suffering daily

That’s as may be but I’m talking about this story?

by Guest Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:52 pm

eddie wrote:
phildidge wrote:

The world sits by whilst around 11 million children die each year. Of these around 3.1 die from poor nutrition

People are sitting by and watching including yourself and I all the time, doing nothing

Is this bad what is happenning in Hungary?

Absolutely, but its minute compared to where millions of children are suffering daily

That’s as may be but I’m talking about this story?

Okay, then what are you doing about it?

by eddie Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:58 pm

Are we supposed to do something about every topic we post, as posters, on a debate forum? Not sure really what you’re trying to do to be perfectly honest.

Anyway, back to the topic... Rolling Eyes

by Guest Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:59 pm

eddie wrote:Are we supposed to do something about every topic we post, as posters, on a debate forum? Not sure really what you’re trying to do to be perfectly honest.

Anyway, back to the topic...

Well why did you ask Tommy, whether he could sit by and watch someone starve, when you are doing exactly the same?

by eddie Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:03 pm

phildidge wrote:
eddie wrote:Are we supposed to do something about every topic we post, as posters, on a debate forum? Not sure really what you’re trying to do to be perfectly honest.

Anyway, back to the topic...

Well why did you ask Tommy, whether he could sit by and watch someone starve, when you are doing exactly the same?

I was sticking to the topic. He made a point so I asked him if he was happy about the story. Can’t you follow a thread without getting all antsy and making trouble where there is none?

I’ll wait for Tommy to reply as I did ask him the question.

by Guest Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:05 pm

eddie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Yes... cos that picture isn't photoshopped at all, is it ..!?

And... shouldn't "asylum seekers" be claiming so in the first safe country they get to...!?

Listen, whether the photo is fake or not, or the fact you think asylum seekers should be going somewhere else or not, starving people is barbaric! Can you not see that?

Could you sit by and watch children starve? Could you?

Bumped up to show this is what was asked to Tommy

I asked eddie, what she was doing about this and as seen

I am following the course of what Eddie said to Tommy

Why is the question wrong for Eddie and not Tommy?

How also is that making trouble?

scratch

by eddie Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:08 pm

I think you missed the point of my reply to him but never mind. You often do...when it suits your mood.

Anyway, what do you think of the story?

by Ben Reilly Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:11 pm

phildidge wrote:
eddie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Yes... cos that picture isn't photoshopped at all, is it ..!?

And... shouldn't "asylum seekers" be claiming so in the first safe country they get to...!?

Listen, whether the photo is fake or not, or the fact you think asylum seekers should be going somewhere else or not, starving people is barbaric! Can you not see that?

Could you sit by and watch children starve? Could you?

Bumped up to show this is what was asked to Tommy

I asked eddie, what she was doing about this and as seen

I am following the course of what Eddie said to Tommy

Why is the question wrong for Eddie and not Tommy?

How also is that making trouble?

Okay, I understood that differently from you -- to me, it was like asking, "Tommy, if you were a border guard in Hungary, do you think you could sit by and watch children starve?"

by Guest Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:13 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
phildidge wrote:

Bumped up to show this is what was asked to Tommy

I asked eddie, what she was doing about this and as seen

I am following the course of what Eddie said to Tommy

Why is the question wrong for Eddie and not Tommy?

How also is that making trouble?

Okay, I understood that differently from you -- to me, it was like asking, "Tommy, if you were a border guard in Hungary, do you think you could sit by and watch children starve?"

Who asked you?

I asked eddie, now allow her to speak for herself

by Guest Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:29 pm

eddie wrote:I think you missed the point of my reply to him but never mind. You often do...when it suits your mood.

Anyway, what do you think of the story?

But you do realise that you both are sitting by doing nothing, whilst this is happenning

So you have no cause to ask this of him yourself

You do realise that?

The situation is wrong as I already said

by Ben Reilly Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:32 pm

phildidge wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
phildidge wrote:

Bumped up to show this is what was asked to Tommy

I asked eddie, what she was doing about this and as seen

I am following the course of what Eddie said to Tommy

Why is the question wrong for Eddie and not Tommy?

How also is that making trouble?

Okay, I understood that differently from you -- to me, it was like asking, "Tommy, if you were a border guard in Hungary, do you think you could sit by and watch children starve?"

Who asked you?

I asked eddie, now allow her to speak for herself

She actually already had by the time I posted, but I had a point I wanted to make and I will never refrain from doing that on my own forum.

You seem really hostile tonight.

by Guest Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:34 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
phildidge wrote:

Who asked you?

I asked eddie, now allow her to speak for herself

She actually already had by the time I posted, but I had a point I wanted to make and I will never refrain from doing that on my own forum.

You seem really hostile tonight.

Not hostile at all. lately you constantly answer for each other, like a duo. I guess you do not realise. I would rather you answered for yourselves

Anyway, the point is Eddie is sitting back doing nothing about thisand as such is in no position to ask Tommy the same

Can you not see that Ben?

by eddie Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:37 pm

phildidge wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
phildidge wrote:

Who asked you?

I asked eddie, now allow her to speak for herself

She actually already had by the time I posted, but I had a point I wanted to make and I will never refrain from doing that on my own forum.

You seem really hostile tonight.

Not hostile at all. lately you constantly answer for each other, like a duo. I guess you do not realise. I would rather you answered for yourselves

Anyway, the point is Eddie is sitting back doing nothing about thisand as such is in no position to ask Tommy the same

Can you not see that Ben?

Didn’t you just answer for Tommy?
Didn’t you just say you thought the situation was wrong but yet you’re doing nothing?

Now, can you let Tommy answer for himself? geek

by Guest Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:39 pm

eddie wrote:
phildidge wrote:

Not hostile at all. lately you constantly answer for each other, like a duo. I guess you do not realise. I would rather you answered for yourselves

Anyway, the point is Eddie is sitting back doing nothing about thisand as such is in no position to ask Tommy the same

Can you not see that Ben?

Didn’t you just answer for Tommy?
Didn’t you just say you thought the situation was wrong but yet you’re doing nothing?

Now, can you let Tommy answer for himself?

But did I claim i was doing something about it?

No

I said if you read back, that we both were doing nothing about this

Talk about not reading peoples posts properly are listening properly Eddie

So again, as this is happenning and you are doing nothing about it. Clearly you can watch someone slowly starve

Hence why ask Tommy this, when you are doing so yourself?

by eddie Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:41 pm

Hmmm. I shall fly to Hungary tomorrow! Let me know when you’re in Israel helping all those people you post about....and we can meet up!

cheers

by Guest Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:43 pm

eddie wrote:Hmmm. I shall fly to Hungary tomorrow! Let me know when you’re in Israel helping all those people you post about....and we can meet up!

That is up to you, but like i say. Its a very redundent question to ask someone. Whether they could watch someone starve. When everyone on here is doing the same themselves

What people in Israel that I help?

I help fight antisemitism in the UK

by nicko Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:29 am

Take 'em some Beans Didge, Heinz of course !

by 'Wolfie Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:21 pm

nicko wrote:
Take 'em some Beans Didge, Heinz of course !

Give a man a can of beans, he eats for a day.

Teach the man to grow his own beans, and he can fart away happily for the rest of his life..

by Guest Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:31 pm

The bigger question is why are the EU nations persecuting people and causing them to flee???

by Guest Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:32 pm

Cass wrote:That’s what happens when you elect a far-right fascist government.

More like what happens when you open your borders to savages from the dark ages

by Guest Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:34 pm

eddie wrote:“The idea is that if you make people hungry enough, you’ll force them to go back to Serbia,”
~ Márta Pardavi, the co-chair of the Hungarian Helsinki Committee.

Hungarian authorities are systematically denying food to failed asylum seekers detained in the country’s border transit zones, say rights activists.

The policy, whereby adults whose asylum claims have been rejected are denied food, was described as “an unprecedented human rights violation in 21st-century Europe” by the Hungarian Helsinki Committee, a human rights organisation working to offer legal support to those in the transit zones.

It may amount to “inhuman treatment and even to torture” under international human rights law, said the organisation in a statement released this week. It documented eight cases involving 13 people this year when the Hungarian authorities had begun providing food to people only after the European court of human rights had intervened.
Some went without food for up to five days before the rulings were granted.

Read more https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/26/hungary-denying-food-to-asylum-seekers-say-human-rights-groups

What the actual fuck??? This made me really angry.

A trump Wall would sort this out by keeping them out and then they wouldn't have to starve them to get them out.

Prevention is better than cure

by eddie Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:47 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
nicko wrote:
Take 'em some Beans Didge, Heinz of course !

Give a man a can of beans, he eats for a day.

Teach the man to grow his own beans, and he can fart away happily for the rest of his life..

That’s probably the most sensible post on this entire thread. cheers

by Guest Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:58 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
nicko wrote:
Take 'em some Beans Didge, Heinz of course !

Give a man a can of beans, he eats for a day.

Teach the man to grow his own beans, and he can fart away happily for the rest of his life..

build the wall and mount .5's on top and you will teach the man to go elsewhere for his handouts

by eddie Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:01 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
nicko wrote:
Take 'em some Beans Didge, Heinz of course !

Give a man a can of beans, he eats for a day.

Teach the man to grow his own beans, and he can fart away happily for the rest of his life..

build the wall and mount .5's on top and you will teach the man to go elsewhere for his handouts

You know, I bet that man would make less noise about it than you did, when you got basemented for a couple of days.

by Guest Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:07 pm

eddie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

build the wall and mount .5's on top and you will teach the man to go elsewhere for his handouts

You know, I bet that man would make less noise about it than you did, when you got basemented for a couple of days.

yeah , hed be dead and the dead dont complain too much

and it was a couple of WEEKS at least,all because one of your little pussyhat praetorians had sand in his fanny!

by eddie Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:18 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
eddie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

build the wall and mount .5's on top and you will teach the man to go elsewhere for his handouts

You know, I bet that man would make less noise about it than you did, when you got basemented for a couple of days.

yeah , hed be dead and the dead dont complain too much

and it was a couple of WEEKS at least,all because one of your little pussyhat praetorians had sand in his fanny!

No dearest, it wasn’t. It was proven to you too. Perhaps you didn’t see it through your angst-cloud.

by Guest Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:57 pm

eddie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

yeah , hed be dead and the dead dont complain too much

and it was a couple of WEEKS at least,all because one of your little pussyhat praetorians had sand in his fanny!

No dearest, it wasn’t. It was proven to you too. Perhaps you didn’t see it through your angst-cloud.

what i know is that for at least 2 weeks all i got was "access to post in this forum is restricted to users with special permissions" or words to that effect so i dont know what you were told but thats what i got.

i couldnt even post in the basement were i was apparently bansihed to, same message.

by eddie Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:04 pm

I don’t need to be told anything, I can see the admin panel and everything else. When you’re basemented you cannot post.
But it wasn’t for two weeks. Stop fibbing.

by Raggamuffin Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:36 pm

The article says it applied to adults, not children.

by Ben Reilly Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:38 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:The article says it applied to adults, not children.

Wow, that's even worse. Imagine being a starving child given food you know your parents can't have. That's psychological torture.

by Guest Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:46 pm

very humane of the hungarian government to feed starving refugee children

by eddie Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:53 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:very humane of the hungarian government to feed starving refugee children

Would you feed them? Don’t give me hardman hogwash, just be honest.

by Guest Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:38 pm

eddie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:very humane of the hungarian government to feed starving refugee children

Would you feed them? Don’t give me hardman hogwash, just be honest.

you would never understand what i would do eddie or why i would do it, but it would be more humane than the liberal hand wringing we see all too often which always ends up with more human misery and suffering.

dont forget a leftwing bleeding heart liberal caused all of this.

but yes i would feed them, they are afterall not to blame for their parents actions.

by eddie Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:49 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
eddie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:very humane of the hungarian government to feed starving refugee children

Would you feed them? Don’t give me hardman hogwash, just be honest.

you would never understand what i would do eddie or why i would do it, but it would be more humane than the liberal hand wringing we see all too often which always ends up with more human misery and suffering.

dont forget a leftwing bleeding heart liberal caused all of this.

but yes i would feed them, they are afterall not to blame for their parents actions.

Thanks for answering.

And how do you know I would “never understand what you would do or why you would do it”?
Try me. I’m a very good listener. You already know this. You’ve known me for years.

by Ben Reilly Wed May 01, 2019 12:13 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
eddie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:very humane of the hungarian government to feed starving refugee children

Would you feed them? Don’t give me hardman hogwash, just be honest.

you would never understand what i would do eddie or why i would do it, but it would be more humane than the liberal hand wringing we see all too often which always ends up with more human misery and suffering.

dont forget a leftwing bleeding heart liberal caused all of this.

but yes i would feed them, they are afterall not to blame for their parents actions.

ISIS caused all this, actually.

by 'Wolfie Wed May 01, 2019 1:48 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
eddie wrote:

Would you feed them? Don’t give me hardman hogwash, just be honest.

you would never understand what i would do eddie or why i would do it, but it would be more humane than the liberal hand wringing we see all too often which always ends up with more human misery and suffering.

dont forget a leftwing bleeding heart liberal caused all of this.

but yes i would feed them, they are afterall not to blame for their parents actions.

Stop spouting your idiotic lies, dipshit...

You're just one more neo-nazi scumbag defending yet another neo-nazi regime..

by Guest Wed May 01, 2019 7:16 am

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

you would never understand what i would do eddie or why i would do it, but it would be more humane than the liberal hand wringing we see all too often which always ends up with more human misery and suffering.

dont forget a leftwing bleeding heart liberal caused all of this.

but yes i would feed them, they are afterall not to blame for their parents actions.

ISIS caused all this, actually.

Obama and Cameron created ISIS to overthrow assad and disrupt Russian influence in the middle East.

But they are not the Liberals I was talking about

Merkel caused this by throwing the European Unions doors open to immigrants, Germany has an ageing and declining population and she thought bringing millions of middle Eastern barbarians who think its the 7th century into Germany and Europe would solve her problems.

by 'Wolfie Wed May 01, 2019 9:17 am

Smelly is a lying neo-nazi fuckwit..

To wit :

Obama & Blair didn't "create" ISIS...

Bush, Blair & Co. did that by leaving a political 'power vacuum' in the Middle East.

Merkel isn't a lefty/"liberal" -- she is a centre-right politician in a largely-conservative right-wing party..

Oh, and did I mention -- Smelly is a lying piece of propagandist shit...

by Guest Wed May 01, 2019 10:32 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Smelly is a lying neo-nazi fuckwit..

To wit :

Obama & Blair didn't "create" ISIS...

Bush, Blair & Co. did that by leaving a political 'power vacuum' in the Middle East.

Merkel isn't a lefty/"liberal" -- she is a centre-right politician in a largely-conservative right-wing party..

Oh, and did I mention -- Smelly is a lying piece of propagandist shit...

Lefties never seem to be able to grasp how a time line works

by nicko Wed May 01, 2019 11:29 am

Do you have to post insults dickhead !

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