Raymond Francis - We are what we eat

Raymond Francis, D.Sc., M.Sc., RNC, was at the height of an international consulting career when his health began declining rapidly. What began as chemical sensitivities and allergic reactions to almost everything ended up as chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, lupus, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, Sjogren’s syndrome, digestive problems, skin rashes, headaches, brain fog, dizziness, and ultimately liver failure. At age 48, his imminent death was considered a medical certainty. “There is nothing more we can do for you,” his doctors said.
Believing that the medical interventions had only made things worse, Raymond decided it was up to him to bring himself back to health. A chemist by training and a graduate of M.I.T., he began taking massive doses of vitamin C, which revived him enough to conduct extensive research and direct his own care. It took him two years to fully restore his health. During this period he developed his revolutionary Beyond Health Model, a theory of health and disease that is so simple it can be taught to a child, yet is so powerful that many have cured themselves of terminal cancer relying on its truths.
Now 78, Raymond enjoys an extraordinary level of health. In the last 28+ years since his recovery, he has not taken any medications or had any surgeries, and he has not been sick except for two minor colds. He is on a mission to reach as many people as possible with the message that you don’t have to get sick, that “health is a choice.”

It’s a no-brainier that what we put into our bodies is going to affect us. It’s just common sense.

eddie wrote:It’s a no-brainier that what we put into our bodies is going to affect us. It’s just common sense.  

He makes an interesting point about milk. We are the only species who drink the milk of another species into adulthood.

Cats like milk, as long as it doesn't disagree with them they love it, at least my one does.

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:It’s a no-brainier that what we put into our bodies is going to affect us. It’s just common sense.  

He makes an interesting point about milk.   We are the only species who drink the milk of another species into adulthood.

I have never, ever understood why humans drink another mammals milk.

And yet again people are ever so gullible, as the man is a complete fraud

https://drmarthacastrodoctor.com/2018/11/24/health-quacks-harm-people-fraud-information-believe/

I mean just read this and see the ulterior motive by this quack

https://raymondfrancisauthor.com/why-doctors-are-so-dangerous/

He wants to lie to people and make them fear people medically trained, based on the fact he has bugger all knowledge on physiology. He wants people instead to take his untrained views, which would basicaly place lives at risk

How people fall for such gibberish is beyond me, but they should be ashamed of themselves, that they promote this garbage in the fist place. 

This is simple a man on the take and there is one sucker born every minute

I see he has a few autoimmune diseases in that list. If an autoimmune disease can be triggered, can it also be untriggered? Remissions do occur in such conditions but it's not clear why.

Syl wrote:Cats like milk, as long as it doesn't disagree with them they love it, at least my one does.

True... although should be diluted with water and only given occasionally... as it isn't considered to be good for them...

Syl wrote:Cats like milk, as long as it doesn't disagree with them they love it, at least my one does.

Is it something it seeks in the wild? It's a food you give it.

eddie wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

He makes an interesting point about milk.   We are the only species who drink the milk of another species into adulthood.

I have never, ever understood why humans drink another mammals milk.

Me neither. I hate the stuff.

Raggamuffin wrote:I see he has a few autoimmune diseases in that list. If an autoimmune disease can be triggered, can it also be untriggered? Remissions do occur in such conditions but it's not clear why.

He says that if, for example, cancer can be switched on, then it should be possible to switch it off.

Cancer, above all other diseases, has countless secondary causes. But, even for cancer, there is only one prime cause. Summarized in a few words, the prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar.

— Otto H. Warburg,

Warburg studied cell respiration. Francis believes that cell oxygen starvation is a leading cause of the human body getting sick, particularly with cancer. HBO Hyperbaric oxygen treatment is currently used for cancer patients. What Francis is basically saying is that certain foods interfere with the process and should be avoided. Sugar being a massive culprit.

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

He makes an interesting point about milk.   We are the only species who drink the milk of another species into adulthood.

I have never, ever understood why humans drink another mammals milk.

Me neither.  I hate the stuff.

If you ask most people why they drink the milk of another mammal they have no idea.
I’ve never liked it, even as a child. It makes me feel phlegmy and nauseous.

It’s weird to think humans drink it.

HoratioTarr wrote:Cancer, above all other diseases, has countless secondary causes. But, even for cancer, there is only one prime cause. Summarized in a few words, the prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar.

— Otto H. Warburg,

Warburg studied cell respiration.   Francis believes that cell oxygen starvation is a leading cause of the human body getting sick, particularly with cancer.   HBO Hyperbaric oxygen treatment is currently used for cancer patients.   What Francis is basically saying is that certain foods interfere with the process and should be avoided.  Sugar being a massive culprit.

this is nice and all but we know the cause and can cure/prevent some cancer types.

Anyone with a universal fix for 'cancer' is a fraud ...
cervical cancer is completely different than lung cancer which is different again to bone cancers like Leukemia.
there is not and will never be a 'golden bullet' for all. each must be shot down in turn.

HoratioTarr wrote:Cancer, above all other diseases, has countless secondary causes. But, even for cancer, there is only one prime cause. Summarized in a few words, the prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar.

— Otto H. Warburg,

Warburg studied cell respiration.   Francis believes that cell oxygen starvation is a leading cause of the human body getting sick, particularly with cancer.   HBO Hyperbaric oxygen treatment is currently used for cancer patients.   What Francis is basically saying is that certain foods interfere with the process and should be avoided.  Sugar being a massive culprit.

Those claims are lies, pure and simple...

Anyone foolish enough to believe the utter anti-science bulldust being posted on here by uneducated and unqualified dunces, the likes of the idiot troll HT, will only have themselves to blame..

Medical frauds and opportunistic quacks, and their morals-free promoters, promising miracle "cures" for cancer should be dealt with as the dangerous criminals that they are.

P.S.   This misleading thread should be removed from the 'Body Science' section and shifted to the bullshit and bulldust category..

veya_victaous wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:Cancer, above all other diseases, has countless secondary causes. But, even for cancer, there is only one prime cause. Summarized in a few words, the prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar.

— Otto H. Warburg,

Warburg studied cell respiration.   Francis believes that cell oxygen starvation is a leading cause of the human body getting sick, particularly with cancer.   HBO Hyperbaric oxygen treatment is currently used for cancer patients.   What Francis is basically saying is that certain foods interfere with the process and should be avoided.  Sugar being a massive culprit.

this is nice and all but we know the cause and can cure/prevent some cancer types.

Anyone with a universal fix for 'cancer' is a fraud ...
cervical cancer is completely different than lung cancer which is different again to bone cancers like Leukemia.
there is not and will never be a 'golden bullet' for all. each must be shot down in turn.

I agree that claims of a fix for cancer is well dodgy. That's not why I've posted this article. It's more to do with prevention. Cancer Research UK now tells us that one in two people will get cancer. We have to ask ourselves why? Child cancer is on the rise. Why? Obesity, diabetes, kidney disease and neurological conditions like Alzheimer's are all on the rise, both in the US and in much of the developed world.

Promoting healthy lives by healthy eating is what's needed, IMO. There's a lot of discussion and fear about climate change. But what about the quality of our food? You might think that apple you bought in the supermarket is chock full of vitamins. But the reality is, it could be a year old, still look like an apple, and taste like one, but have bugger all nutrition in it. Educating people about food, particularly kids, is vital.

veya_victaous wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:Cancer, above all other diseases, has countless secondary causes. But, even for cancer, there is only one prime cause. Summarized in a few words, the prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar.

— Otto H. Warburg,

Warburg studied cell respiration.   Francis believes that cell oxygen starvation is a leading cause of the human body getting sick, particularly with cancer.   HBO Hyperbaric oxygen treatment is currently used for cancer patients.   What Francis is basically saying is that certain foods interfere with the process and should be avoided.  Sugar being a massive culprit.

this is nice and all but we know the cause and can cure/prevent some cancer types.

Anyone with a universal fix for 'cancer' is a fraud ...
cervical cancer is completely different than lung cancer which is different again to bone cancers like Leukemia.
there is not and will never be a 'golden bullet' for all. each must be shot down in turn.

On this matter, and in light of all the deaths from cancer, I think we have to keep an open mind about that. Otherwise we risk being stuck in the rut of thinking there is only one way to deal with it. What if there isn't? Immunotherapy is now being used to fight cancer. Hopefully, one day, that will be the key to staying cancer free. Our own immune system.

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:It’s a no-brainier that what we put into our bodies is going to affect us. It’s just common sense.  

He makes an interesting point about milk.   We are the only species who drink the milk of another species into adulthood.

We are also the only species that plants corn and distills it into whiskey.  

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:Cancer, above all other diseases, has countless secondary causes. But, even for cancer, there is only one prime cause. Summarized in a few words, the prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar.

— Otto H. Warburg,

Warburg studied cell respiration.   Francis believes that cell oxygen starvation is a leading cause of the human body getting sick, particularly with cancer.   HBO Hyperbaric oxygen treatment is currently used for cancer patients.   What Francis is basically saying is that certain foods interfere with the process and should be avoided.  Sugar being a massive culprit.

Those claims are lies, pure and simple...

Anyone foolish enough to believe the utter anti-science bulldust being posted on here by uneducated and unqualified dunces, the likes of the idiot troll HT, will only have themselves to blame..

Medical frauds and opportunistic quacks, and their morals-free promoters, promising miracle "cures" for cancer should be dealt with as the dangerous criminals that they are.

P.S.   This misleading thread should be removed from the 'Body Science' section and shifted to the bullshit and bulldust category..

Speaking of medicine, do they have wellbutrin or its equivalent  in Australia?

Who would have dreamed that one day there would be a vaccine against cervical cancer. But the vaccine doesn't work against the cancer. It works against the virus that causes it. So what's to say that the other causes of cancer won't one day be treatable in the same way. Prevention is key.

BTW immunotherapy was first 'discovered' in Victorian times.

https://www.cancerresearch.org/immunotherapy/timeline-of-progress

Maddog wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

He makes an interesting point about milk.   We are the only species who drink the milk of another species into adulthood.

We are also the only species that plants corn and distills it into whiskey.  

Which just goes to show animals are smarter than us

HoratioTarr wrote:

Maddog wrote:
We are also the only species that plants corn and distills it into whiskey.  

Which just goes to show animals are smarter than us

Perhaps 

Well I don't know. I recently improved my diet and I feel terrible.

Maddog wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:It’s a no-brainier that what we put into our bodies is going to affect us. It’s just common sense.  

He makes an interesting point about milk.   We are the only species who drink the milk of another species into adulthood.

We are also the only species that plants corn and distills it into whiskey.  

Corn is cheap. It has no nutritional value when you eat it and it’s used in a lot of crappy foodstuffs.

eddie wrote:

Maddog wrote:
We are also the only species that plants corn and distills it into whiskey.  

Corn is cheap. It has no nutritional value when you eat it and it’s used in a lot of crappy foodstuffs.

Sweetcorn?

Vitamin C 11%
Iron 2%
Vitamin B-6 5%
Magnesium 9%

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:Cancer, above all other diseases, has countless secondary causes. But, even for cancer, there is only one prime cause. Summarized in a few words, the prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar.

— Otto H. Warburg,

Warburg studied cell respiration.   Francis believes that cell oxygen starvation is a leading cause of the human body getting sick, particularly with cancer.   HBO Hyperbaric oxygen treatment is currently used for cancer patients.   What Francis is basically saying is that certain foods interfere with the process and should be avoided.  Sugar being a massive culprit.

Those claims are lies, pure and simple...

Anyone foolish enough to believe the utter anti-science bulldust being posted on here by uneducated and unqualified dunces, the likes of the idiot troll HT, will only have themselves to blame..

Medical frauds and opportunistic quacks, and their morals-free promoters, promising miracle "cures" for cancer should be dealt with as the dangerous criminals that they are.

P.S.   This misleading thread should be removed from the 'Body Science' section and shifted to the bullshit and bulldust category..

Exactly.

I have no objection to people advising others on healthy food intake

What i object to, is a clear unhinged quack. That dvises people to not take vaccines, and think his advice on food is going to help cure cancer.

He is a made up doctor in homeopathy, which is a crock of shit

If he wants to advise people on healthy foods, no problems. The moment he spouts bollocks on medical problems and seeks to endanger poeoples lives. Then they should be liable for malpractice

He is simple a person that is able to play into peoples fears and again there is one sucker born every minute it seems

eddie wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

Me neither.  I hate the stuff.

If you ask most people why they drink the milk of another mammal they have no idea.  
I’ve never liked it, even as a child. It makes me feel phlegmy and nauseous.  

It’s weird to think humans drink it.

Yeah it only helps the bones and strenghen them. I mean why the fuck would people drink something that has countless nutrients, including calcium, phosphorus, potassium and protein.

That is why people drink this and why just about every mammal species rears its young on milk, being as they are able to produce milk for them

If you dont understand how nutitional milk actually is and you claim to understand food nutrition. I suggest you sack your teacher

HoratioTarr wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:


this is nice and all but we know the cause and can cure/prevent some cancer types.

Anyone with a universal fix for 'cancer' is a fraud ...
cervical cancer is completely different than lung cancer which is different again to bone cancers like Leukemia.
there is not and will never be a 'golden bullet' for all. each must be shot down in turn.

On this matter, and in light of all the deaths from cancer, I think we have to keep an open mind about that.   Otherwise we risk being stuck in the rut of thinking there is only one way to deal with it.    What if there isn't?   Immunotherapy is now being used to fight cancer.   Hopefully, one day, that will be the key to staying cancer free.   Our own immune system.

Oh for goodness sake. There is countless research into numeroeus different cancers and on a variety of methods

His claim here, is based on him making money out of people based on his homeopathy quackery

He is endangering lives based off lies he continually promotes

He does not cite a single source for any of his claims and actually contradicts himself. The fact that we are seeing more and more people contracting measels etc, is down to the fact people are buying into his bullshit. Where he lies about vaccines. Not only that he plays on the fact people who have cancer, and who are at their most vunerable. With lying bullshit to them. People like him, are ensuring more people lose their lives and all so he can make a qucik buck

How you could even promote this garbage is beyond me

Its people like you, that filled my brothers head with crap, to believe in this bullshit

When are you going to take some responsibility for the bullshit you promote?

When are you going to learn your stupidity, costs people lives, when they have cancer?

Seriously?

Maddog wrote:

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:


Those claims are lies, pure and simple...

Anyone foolish enough to believe the utter anti-science bulldust being posted on here by uneducated and unqualified dunces, the likes of the idiot troll HT, will only have themselves to blame..

Medical frauds and opportunistic quacks, and their morals-free promoters, promising miracle "cures" for cancer should be dealt with as the dangerous criminals that they are.

P.S.   This misleading thread should be removed from the 'Body Science' section and shifted to the bullshit and bulldust category..

Speaking of medicine, do they have wellbutrin or its equivalent  in Australia?

Yes.

Not to worry, Maddog..

You should have no trouble getting repeats on your 'script, if you ever venture down this way...

HoratioTarr wrote:Who would have dreamed that one day there would be a vaccine against cervical cancer.   But the vaccine doesn't work against the cancer.  It works against the virus that causes it.   So what's to say that the other causes of cancer won't one day be treatable in the same way.  Prevention is key.  

BTW immunotherapy was first 'discovered' in Victorian times.

https://www.cancerresearch.org/immunotherapy/timeline-of-progress

this is literally the example I was thinking of when I posted,  I was immunized with it in the first year it was out through the schools immunization program, it is an Aussie invention and I am one of the statistics in it, so I have followed it's progress.

it is exactly why there will never be one cure as each type of cancer effect different parts of the body and does so in different ways
All cancers are essentially your own cells that replicated with damaged DNA but still sufficiently your DNA that your own immune systems do not attack it.

in cervical cancer the main cause of DNA damage to replicating cells is the papillomavirus which the vaccine prevents

In Lungs however the primary cause in the inhalation of carcinogenics.


While both are the same in that they are Damaged cells replicating into a malignant mass, both are caused and treated very differently.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Raymond Francis, D.Sc., M.Sc., RNC, was at the height of an international consulting career when his health began declining rapidly. What began as chemical sensitivities and allergic reactions to almost everything ended up as chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, lupus, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, Sjogren’s syndrome, digestive problems, skin rashes, headaches, brain fog, dizziness, and ultimately liver failure. At age 48, his imminent death was considered a medical certainty. “There is nothing more we can do for you,” his doctors said.
Believing that the medical interventions had only made things worse, Raymond decided it was up to him to bring himself back to health. A chemist by training and a graduate of M.I.T., he began taking massive doses of vitamin C, which revived him enough to conduct extensive research and direct his own care. It took him two years to fully restore his health. During this period he developed his revolutionary Beyond Health Model, a theory of health and disease that is so simple it can be taught to a child, yet is so powerful that many have cured themselves of terminal cancer relying on its truths.
Now 78, Raymond enjoys an extraordinary level of health. In the last 28+ years since his recovery, he has not taken any medications or had any surgeries, and he has not been sick except for two minor colds. He is on a mission to reach as many people as possible with the message that you don’t have to get sick, that “health is a choice.”

Anytime a cure for cancer is touted, this raises instant red flags. Translation = ''quackery or scam" - or both.

Nothing else the guy says can be taken seriously after that.
He does not even realise that there are very different types of cancer hence you can't have a 'cure all' potion or system.

Borderline illegal to be making such claims too cos desperate cancer sufferers could blow their life savings on this magic cure.

"A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing"...

Get a gullible and uneducated fool with zero knowledge and experience in the subject, and we see idiots like Horatio Troll spouting pure bullshit on something she knows less than zero about..

The absence of the quack scamster 'Vicar of Dibley' on here has left a certain vacuum -- one that the equally loopy HT is obviously willing to fill, with her ongoing lying "cancer cure" crap.

eddie wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

Me neither.  I hate the stuff.

If you ask most people why they drink the milk of another mammal they have no idea.  
I’ve never liked it, even as a child. It makes me feel phlegmy and nauseous.  


It’s weird to think humans drink it.

We do, cos it's a long standing tradition that goes back millions of years.
Unlearning old habits is hard.
There's the convenience factor too. It's a quick, efficient way to supply good nutrition to millions of people.
Hopefully the cows are treated as 'humanely' as poss. (can of worms lol)

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:

Corn is cheap. It has no nutritional value when you eat it and it’s used in a lot of crappy foodstuffs.

Sweetcorn?  
Vitamin C 11%
Iron 2%
Vitamin B-6 5%
Magnesium 9%

True ! Like most fruits & vegetables it's full of vitamins - at least when fresh.
And it supplies carbs for energy.

HoratioTarr wrote: .... the prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar. ----

What about cancers linked to hormones - like many forms of breast cancer.
Or those caused by ultraviolet light damage  ...  eg melanomas? We need to be careful not to be tempted to oversimplify cancer.

Great thread Horatio!
Gives us food for thought & provides so many talking points.
Cancer - fascinating.
Auto immune diseases - another fascinating subject in its own right.

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Maddog wrote:
Speaking of medicine, do they have wellbutrin or its equivalent  in Australia?

Yes.

Not to worry, Maddog..

You should have no trouble getting repeats on your 'script, if you ever venture down this way...

No need. I'm naturally balanced.

Can't see as Sweetcorn is any use to you, when I.v eaten it, it comes through a day or two later unchanged. My Pigeons like it though, and it doesn't come through undigested with them. Anyone know why ?

nicko wrote:Can't see as Sweetcorn is any use to you,  when I.v eaten it, it comes through a day or two later unchanged.  My Pigeons like it though, and it doesn't come through undigested with them.  Anyone know why ?

Your guts aren't working properly?

Jules wrote:Great thread Horatio!
Gives us food for thought & provides so many talking points.
Cancer - fascinating.
Auto immune diseases - another fascinating subject in its own right.

Thank you. I think it's a fascinating subject. When you read about the science of why sugar is bad for you, it's pretty scary. I never drink sugary drinks and don't take sugar in my coffee but I do love cakes! I'm currently on a health binge at the mo, and it's hard having no sugar. at first But fifth day now and to be honest, I'm not really missing it. I'm off wheat and dairy too. And I have to say, I feel better for it.

nicko wrote:Can't see as Sweetcorn is any use to you,  when I.v eaten it, it comes through a day or two later unchanged.  My Pigeons like it though, and it doesn't come through undigested with them.  Anyone know why ?

you need to chew it more

Pigeons don't chew !

nicko wrote:Pigeons don't chew !

They eat little rocks that they store in the gizzard to grind up stuff.

It's grit they eat, I see 'em on the Road picking it up.

PS Dog, have you ever eaten Wood Pigeon ?

nicko wrote:PS Dog, have you ever eaten Wood Pigeon ?

I've eaten plenty of white winged and mourning dove.  They do the same thing with the grit/rocks/stones. You can feel it in their gizzard or crop or whatever the hell that organ is.

HoratioTarr wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:


this is nice and all but we know the cause and can cure/prevent some cancer types.

Anyone with a universal fix for 'cancer' is a fraud ...
cervical cancer is completely different than lung cancer which is different again to bone cancers like Leukemia.
there is not and will never be a 'golden bullet' for all. each must be shot down in turn.

On this matter, and in light of all the deaths from cancer, I think we have to keep an open mind about that.   Otherwise we risk being stuck in the rut of thinking there is only one way to deal with it.    What if there isn't?   Immunotherapy is now being used to fight cancer.   Hopefully, one day, that will be the key to staying cancer free.   Our own immune system.

Ranking Roger had immunotherapy for his cancer. It didn't seem to help him.

Raggamuffin wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:


On this matter, and in light of all the deaths from cancer, I think we have to keep an open mind about that.   Otherwise we risk being stuck in the rut of thinking there is only one way to deal with it.    What if there isn't?   Immunotherapy is now being used to fight cancer.   Hopefully, one day, that will be the key to staying cancer free.   Our own immune system.

Ranking Roger had immunotherapy for his cancer. It didn't seem to help him.

It's in the early stages of trial and error, I guess, and only some cancers respond to it. A person's lifestyle and age is probably key too. If you've not looked after your body for decades, it's going to succumb to the inevitable unless you're really lucky. Again, it's all about prevention rather than cure. Though a cure would be good.

I have an interest in the autoimmune diseases. I sometimes wonder if immunosuppressive drugs actually make a difference. Autoimmune disease can go into remission by itself so how does one know if drugs are working or not?