socialism. next time we will get it right

eddie wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
surely you understand the words shill and flimflam man, both are americanisms aren;t they

Why can’t you just answer the question? never mind.

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
No, you had obama, a shill and flimflam man, the finest president you ever had was Reagan.

Reagan was an actor, who died in disgrace under the Iran-Contra scandal.  His lieutenant, Dick Cheney, ran his son just like Putin is presently running Trump.

Reagan and thatcher were the primary reason that the berlin wall came down and communism in eastern europe collapsed. He achieved something unlike either clinton or obama

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Reagan was an actor, who died in disgrace under the Iran-Contra scandal.  His lieutenant Dick Cheney, ran his son just like Putin is presently running Trump.

Reagan and thatcher were the primary reason that the berlin wall came down and communism in eastern europe collapsed. He achieved something unlike either clinton or obama

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Reagan and thatcher were the primary reason that the berlin wall came down and communism in eastern europe collapsed. He achieved something unlike either clinton or obama

You really are an idiot,  DYKnose...
And a one-eyed partisan fool..

Thatcher had nothing at all to do with the downfall of the Soviet Union.

As for Ronnie Raygun's efforts,  Russia had already effectively 'bankrupted' itself through trying to compete militarily with the USA before he even took office..

Not that you will ever let a small thing like the truth get in the way of your ultra-right-wing fantasising...

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Reagan and thatcher were the primary reason that the berlin wall came down and communism in eastern europe collapsed. He achieved something unlike either clinton or obama

You really are an idiot,  DYKnose...
And a one-eyed partisan fool..

Thatcher had nothing at all to do with the downfall of the Soviet Union.

As for Ronnie Raygun's efforts,  Russia had already effectively 'bankrupted' itself through trying to compete militarily with the USA before he even took office..

Not that you will ever let a small thing like the truth get in the way of your ultra-right-wing fantasising...

Eilzel wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Reagan and thatcher were the primary reason that the berlin wall came down and communism in eastern europe collapsed. He achieved something unlike either clinton or obama

The Soviet Union was already crumbling from within when Reagan and Thatcher came along.

Also, I note you don't cite the Bushes as Presidents who didn't achieve anything - two far worse leaders than Clinton and Obama, but can't attack your own side eh

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Reagan and thatcher were the primary reason that the berlin wall came down and communism in eastern europe collapsed. He achieved something unlike either clinton or obama

The Soviet Union was already crumbling from within when Reagan and Thatcher came along.

Also, I note you don't cite the Bushes as Presidents who didn't achieve anything - two far worse leaders than Clinton and Obama, but can't attack your own side eh

you answered your own question there., there hasn't been a successful president between reagan and trump. If nothing else trumps success will have been to show what absolute fools the democrats and their supporters are.

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Didge wrote:So explain to me, before the country went to shit (which was always going to happen under socialism). How socialists were hailing the country as a great example of a success of socialism?

I'm not a specialist on Venezuela, as you apparently claim to be.  But my guess would be, they weren't really a socialist nation, but a dictatorship disguising as one.