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Those who make billions of dollars off sick Americans band together to prevent Democrats from doing anything about it

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:41 pm

WASHINGTON — Even before Democrats finish drafting bills to create a single-payer health care system, the health care and insurance industries have assembled a small army of lobbyists to kill “Medicare for all,” an idea that is mocked publicly but is being greeted privately with increasing seriousness.

Doctors, hospitals, drug companies and insurers are intent on strangling Medicare for all before it advances from an aspirational slogan to a legislative agenda item. They have hired a top lieutenant in Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign to spearhead the effort. And their tactics will show Democrats what they are up against as the party drifts to the left on health care.

They also demonstrate how entrenched the Democrats’ last big health care victory, the Affordable Care Act, has become in the nation’s health care system.

The lobbyists’ message is simple: The Affordable Care Act is working reasonably well and should be improved, not repealed by Republicans or replaced by Democrats with a big new public program. More than 155 million Americans have employer-sponsored health coverage. They like it, by and large, and should be allowed to keep it.

“We have a structure that frankly works for most Americans,” said Charles N. Kahn III, the president of the Federation of American Hospitals, which represents investor-owned hospitals. “Let’s make it work for all Americans. We reject the notion that we need to turn the whole apple cart over and start all over again.”

The Democrats’ proposals could radically change the way health care providers do business and could drastically shrink the role and the revenues of insurers, depending on how a single-payer system is devised.

The hospital federation and two powerful lobbies, America’s Health Insurance Plans and the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, created a coalition last June to pre-empt what they saw as an alarming groundswell of interest in proposals to expand the federal role in health care.

In a daily fusillade of digital advertising, videos and Twitter posts, the coalition, the Partnership for America’s Health Care Future, says that Medicare for all will require tax increases and give politicians and bureaucrats control of medical decisions now made by doctors and patients — arguments that echo those made to stop Medicare in the 1960s, Mrs. Clinton’s health plan in 1993 and the Affordable Care Act a decade ago.

The coalition will step up the tempo in the coming week as Democrats in the House and the Senate plan to introduce bills to establish a single-payer system.

The name of the coalition is intentionally nondescript, and its executive director, Lauren Crawford Shaver, who led Mrs. Clinton’s efforts in 2016 to put marginal states into play, is cagey when asked for details. She says only that the group is planning “a big nationwide effort” with grass-roots allies.

But its reach is undeniable. The coalition has picked up more than 25 members, including the American Medical Association, the American Hospital Association and the nation’s Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans.

And it has already sprung into action.

When Senator Bernie Sanders, the author of the Medicare for All Act, announced on Tuesday that he was again running for president, the coalition immediately attacked him as “a leading advocate for upending our nation’s health care system in favor of starting from scratch with Medicare for all.”

Mr. Sanders, independent of Vermont, fired back at the insurance and drug companies. “They make tens of billions of dollars a year in profits from this dysfunctional health care system and pay their C.E.O.s outrageous compensation packages,” Mr. Sanders said. “We’ve expected their opposition all along.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/23/us/politics/medicare-for-all-lobbyists.html

No doubt those same Republicans who claim they care so much about human life when it comes to abortion will forcefully fight back against any attempt to save the lives of people who've already been born but can't afford to see a doctor when they get sick.

I imagine we'll see more vandalism and death threats against Democrats if Medicare for All is ever passed.

But, after all, both sides try to keep ordinary Americans from getting the health care they need, right?
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:12 pm

Democrats have already done enough thank you

It's called Obamacare and its a killer

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Post by Original Quill Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:51 pm

Obamacare...pshaw...

The insurance market is the wrong delivery platform from which to serve such an important service.

Healthcare should be provided like the military...a completely socialist program, with the government footing the entire bill. The military is of the people, by the people, and for the people…and that’s the way health should be provided.

In fact, the Department of Health should be joined with the Department of Defense. They are both life-providing, life-saving organizations, and have a common mission.

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:08 pm

Obamacare was an extreme compromise in an attempt to get more Americans insured while making sure that no billionaires were forced to retire ... and in that, it worked.

But America needs something more like Canadian or Australian Medicare, which have succeeded in those countries and would succeed in America.
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Post by Maddog Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:11 pm

We can't even pay for the folks we already have on Medicare.
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Post by Original Quill Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:26 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:Obamacare was an extreme compromise in an attempt to get more Americans insured while making sure that no billionaires were forced to retire ... and in that, it worked.

But America needs something more like Canadian or Australian Medicare, which have succeeded in those countries and would succeed in America.

Obamacare was originally a conservative program, invented by the Heritage Foundation in order to keep private capitalism (insurance) involved in this most lucrative business. If you view it from HF eyes, it was a last ditch effort in what was seen as a slippery slope that they were losing on.

It's absolutely ludicrous that we so highly revere the socialist military, which exists to protect people on the exterior front, yet we have such disdain for socialist provision of healthcare, which exists to protect people on the interior front. What's the difference? Both enemies want to kill you, and government is supposed to protect its citizens.

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Post by Original Quill Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:35 pm

Maddog wrote:We can't even pay for the folks we already have on Medicare.  

The F-35 JSF program is already costing in the $-trillions, and we aren't even presently at war. Does that give you any ideas?

If the departments of Health and Defense were joined, and the money pooled, the experts could then figure out how to fight on both fronts. May I suggest a few less toys for admirals, and a couple more Cat-scans.

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