Wonder What the Democrats have to Make of This

America's mass shooting capital isn't somewhere out west where you can get a gun at the corner store. It's in Obama's own hometown.

Chicago is America's mass shooting capital. There were over 400 shootings with more than one victim. In 95 of those shootings, 3 or more people were shot.

2,995 people were shot in Chicago last year. Shootings were up, way up, in Baltimore. With an assist from Al Sharpton and #BlackLivesMatter, Baltimore beat out Detroit. But Detroit is still in the running. Chicago, Baltimore and Detroit all have something in common, they're all run by the party of gun control which somehow can't seem to manage to control the criminals who have the guns.

The murder rate in Washington, D.C., home of the progressive boys and girls who can solve it all, is up 54%. The capital of the national bureaucracy has also been the country's murder capital.

These cities are the heartland of America’s real gun culture. It isn’t the bitter gun-and-bible clingers in McCain and Romney territory who are racking up a more horrifying annual kill rate than Al Qaeda; it’s Obama’s own voting base.

Gun violence is at its worst in the cities that Obama won in 2012. Places like New Orleans, Memphis, Birmingham, St. Louis, Kansas City and Philly. The Democrats are blaming Republicans for the crimes of their own voters.

Chicago, where Obama delivered his victory speech, has homicide numbers that match all of Japan and are higher than Spain, Poland and pre-war Syria. If Chicago gets any worse, it will find itself passing the number of murders for the entire country of Canada.

Chicago’s murder rate of 15.09 per 100,000 people looks nothing like the American 4.2 rate, but it does look like the murder rates in failed countries like Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe. To achieve Chicago’s murder rate, African countries usually have to experience a bloody genocidal civil war.

But Chicago isn’t even all that unique. Or the worst case scenario. That would be St. Louis with 50 murders for 100,000 people. If St Louis were a country, it would have the 4th highest murder rate in the world, beating out Jamaica, El Salvador and Rwanda.

Obama won St. Louis 82 to 16 percent.

New Orleans lags behind with a 39.6 murder rate. Louisiana went red for Romney 58 to 40, but Orleans Parish went blue for Obama 80 to 17. Obama won both St. Louis and Baltimore by comfortable margins. He won Detroit’s Wayne County 73 to 26.

Homicide rates like these show that something is broken, but it isn’t broken among Republican voters rushing to stock up on rifles every time Obama begins threatening their right to buy them; it’s broken among Obama’s base.

Any serious conversation about gun violence and gun culture has to begin at home; in Chicago, in Baltimore, in New York City, in Los Angeles and in Washington, D.C.

Voting for Obama does not make people innately homicidal. Just look at Seattle. So what is happening in Chicago to drive it to the gates of hell?

A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago in one year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.

Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico. And Democrats pander to those gangs because it helps them get elected. That's why Federal gun prosecutions in Chicago dropped sharply under Obama. It's why he has set free drug dealers and gang members to deal and kill while convening town halls on gun violence.

America’s murder rate isn’t the work of the suburban and rural homeowners who shop for guns at sporting goods stores and at gun shows, and whom the media profiles after every shooting, but by the gangs embedded in urban areas controlled by Democrats. The gangs who drive up America’s murder rate look nothing like the occasional mentally ill suburban white kid who goes off his medication and decides to shoot up a school. Lanza, like most serial killers, is a media aberration, not the norm.

National murder statistics show that blacks are far more likely to be killers than whites and they are also far more likely to be killed. The single largest cause of homicides is the argument. 4th on the list is juvenile gang activity with 676 murders, which combined with various flavors of gangland killings takes us nearly to the 1,000 mark. America has more gangland murders than Sierra Leone, Eritrea and Puerto Rico have murders.

Our national murder rate is not some incomprehensible mystery that can only be attributed to the inanimate tools, the steel, brass and wood that do the work. It is largely the work of adult males from age 18 to 39 with criminal records killing other males of that same age and criminal past.

If this were going on in Rwanda, El Salvador or Sierra Leone, we would have no trouble knowing what to make of it, and silly pearl-clutching nonsense about gun control would never even come up. But this is Chicago, it’s Baltimore, it’s Philly and NOLA; and so we refuse to see that our major cities are in the same boat as some of the worst trouble spots in the world.

Lanza and Newtown are comforting aberrations. They allow us to take refuge in the fantasy that homicides in America are the work of the occasional serial killer practicing his dark art in one of those perfect small towns that always show up in murder mysteries or Stephen King novels. They fool us into thinking that there is something American about our murder rate that can be traced to hunting season, patriotism and bad mothers.

But go to Chicago or Baltimore. Go where the killings really happen and the illusion comes apart.

There is a war going on in America between gangs of young men who bear an uncanny resemblance to their counterparts in Sierra Leone or El Salvador. They live like them, they fight for control of the streets like them and they kill like them.

America’s horrific murder rate is a result of the transformation of major American cities into Sierra Leone, Somalia, Rwanda and El Salvador. Gun violence largely consists of criminals killing criminals.

As David Kennedy, the head of the Center for Crime Prevention and Control, put it, "The majority of homicide victims have extensive criminal histories. This is simply the way that the world of criminal homicide works. It's a fact.”

America is, on a county by county basis, not a violent country, just as it, on a county by county basis, did not vote for Obama. It is being dragged down by broken cities full of broken families whose mayors would like to trash the Bill of Rights for the entire country in the vain hope that national gun control will save their cities, even though gun control is likely to be as much help to Chicago or New Orleans as the War on Drugs.


Obama’s pretense that there needs to be a national conversation about rural American gun owners is a dishonest and cynical ploy that distracts attention from the real problem that he and politicians like him have sat on for generations.

America does not have a gun problem. Its problem is in the broken culture of cities administered by Democrats. We do not need to have a conversation about gun violence. We need to have a conversation about Chicago. We need to have a conversation about what the Democrats have done to our cities.


http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/america-doesnt-have-gun-problem-it-has_4.html

Yet another example of how right-wingers have trouble with basic logic.

1) Obama is from Chicago, so all Chicagoans must be like Obama

2) The Democrats are the party of gun control, so of course, they must have managed to enact all their goals on gun control (and not stymied at every turn by the Republicans, despite the fact that most Americans support Democratic proposals for gun control)

3) Obama has pardoned a few people serving ridiculous sentences for drug offenses due to mindless "mandatory minimum" sentencing statutes, so he must be in the pocket of organized crime

4) America didn't vote for Obama -- of course! Because he only won re-election by nearly 5,000,000 votes.

Also totally predictable were the numerous references to predominantly black U.S. cities and predominantly Latino locales throughout the Americas ... surely there's no dog-whistle racism going on there.

How did that in anyway addess the fact gun crime is highest in Democrat States?

Richard The Lionheart wrote:How did that in anyway addess the fact gun crime is highest in Democrat States?

Democratic states are the largest population-wise and have the biggest cities. You want to know why the inner cities have high gun violence rates? Because of this:

http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2012/02/how-reagan-sold-the-united-states-piece-by-piece/

And this:

http://financesonline.com/how-income-inequality-affects-crime-rates/

It's really simple. Right-wing schemes to make corporations richer led to the outsourcing of jobs from big American cities (which still provide most jobs in the U.S.), and when people are denied legitimate means to survive (jobs), they turn to illegitimate means (crime). Thus you go from companies competing with one another by providing better goods or services to gangs competing with one another by eliminating competitors for their markets (vice).

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:How did that in anyway addess the fact gun crime is highest in Democrat States?

Democratic states are the largest population-wise and have the biggest cities. You want to know why the inner cities have high gun violence rates? Because of this:

http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2012/02/how-reagan-sold-the-united-states-piece-by-piece/

And this:

http://financesonline.com/how-income-inequality-affects-crime-rates/

It's really simple. Right-wing schemes to make corporations richer led to the outsourcing of jobs from big American cities (which still provide most jobs in the U.S.), and when people are denied legitimate means to survive (jobs), they turn to illegitimate means (crime). Thus you go from companies competing with one another by providing better goods or services to gangs competing with one another by eliminating competitors for their markets (vice).

Again avoiding the question by now going off an even more absurd point.
I am all for gun controls, which you misss the point, which is why has the Democrats failed to deal with the clear levels of poverty, housing, gangs etc, which has seen an increase in homicides in Democrat states.
Do not insult my intelligence with gibberish on levels of populations

given the point made above


I would like to see a breakdown of deaths by gun into criminal and innocent victims

THAT would be interesting

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:How did that in anyway addess the fact gun crime is highest in Democrat States?

Democratic states are the largest population-wise and have the biggest cities. You want to know why the inner cities have high gun violence rates? Because of this:

http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2012/02/how-reagan-sold-the-united-states-piece-by-piece/

And this:

http://financesonline.com/how-income-inequality-affects-crime-rates/

It's really simple. Right-wing schemes to make corporations richer led to the outsourcing of jobs from big American cities (which still provide most jobs in the U.S.), and when people are denied legitimate means to survive (jobs), they turn to illegitimate means (crime). Thus you go from companies competing with one another by providing better goods or services to gangs competing with one another by eliminating competitors for their markets (vice).

Again avoiding the question by now going off an even more absurd point.
I am all for gun controls, which you misss the point, which is why has the Democrats failed to deal with the clear levels of poverty, housing, gangs etc, which has seen an increase in homicides in Democrat states.
Do not insult my intelligence with gibberish on levels of populations

You should research the history of Democratic initiatives in the U.S. Every policy that elevates the poor is championed by Democrats and demonized by the right. We don't have total control over any city, county or state.

You should also look at crime rates rather than total crimes, to get a sense of what it means to live there:

The average violent crime rate (murder, forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault) in 2008 for the 28 states that voted for Barack Obama in the 2008 Presidential election was 389 incidents per 100,000 residents. The average violent crime rate for the 22 states that voted for John McCain was 412 incidents per 100,000 residents – or a 5.8 percent higher incidence of violent crime.

For example, 2 of the top 3 states with the highest violent crime rates in the nation in 2008 voted for McCain: South Carolina (#1) and Tennessee (#3). (Nevada was #2).

The difference was even more pronounced for property crimes (burglary, larceny-theft, and motor vehicle theft). Obama states had an average property crime rate of 2,989 incidents per 100,000 residents, with McCain states averaging a rate of 3,228 – or an 8.0 percent higher incidence of property crime.

Eight of the top 11 states with the highest property crime rates voted for McCain: Arizona (#1), South Carolina (#2), Alabama (#4), Tennessee (#6), Georgia (#7), Texas (#, Arkansas (#10), and Louisiana (#11).

http://editions.lib.umn.edu/smartpolitics/2009/09/16/red-states-have-higher-crime-r/

Lord Foul wrote:given the point made above


I would like to see a breakdown of deaths by gun into criminal and innocent victims

THAT would be interesting

Far more innocent victims are killed than criminals, don't buy into the "Good Guy With a Gun" bullshit:http://www.vice.com/read/calling-bullshit-on-the-internets-right-wing-gun-memes-392

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:given the point made above


I would like to see a breakdown of deaths by gun into criminal and innocent victims

THAT would be interesting

Far more innocent victims are killed than criminals, don't buy into the "Good Guy With a Gun" bullshit:http://www.vice.com/read/calling-bullshit-on-the-internets-right-wing-gun-memes-392

I'm not buying into anything Ben...i like to study an alien culture before commenting on it....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35236992

Crocodile tears or not?

It's a silly article that builds its argument on raw numbers, not statistical proportions.  An intelligent 4th-grader could answer.

He lauds McCain territory as relatively free of guns, yet Arizona ranks as the number 1 state for gun ownership per capita in the nation.  Drive down I-17 and behold the gun racks in the back window of the pickup trucks.



You would hardly call Phoenix or Flagstaff the inner-city.

Stormee wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35236992

Crocodile tears or not?

Methinks they are an actors, well-rehearsed, tears.