Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
5 posters
Page 1 of 1
Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Former National Security Director Flynn went before Federal Judge today. The Judge exploded. This is breaking news, so more details later. "You sold out your country...I cannot describe my disgust for your crime!", the Judge said. "Why isn't he charged with espionage??" the Judge demanded of prosecutors. The plea agreement called for no jail time.
The Judge told attorneys to go back to the drawing board: He delayed sentencing for 90-days.
Since Flynn was Trump's man, things don't look good when Trump goes in for his sentencing.
The Judge told attorneys to go back to the drawing board: He delayed sentencing for 90-days.
Since Flynn was Trump's man, things don't look good when Trump goes in for his sentencing.
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
When do you think they will "get" Trump ? It's taking a long time !
nicko- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 13368
Join date : 2013-12-07
Age : 83
Location : rainbow bridge
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Trump will be arrested in January, when the Democrats the over. Congress. E has nobody left he an trust.
All of his previous underlings have either cooperated with Mueller or are already serving time.
His income stream from his charity has been closed as well, I suspect that will be investigated as a Federaoffence, money lauderlby from a registered charity. Naughty boy.
All of his previous underlings have either cooperated with Mueller or are already serving time.
His income stream from his charity has been closed as well, I suspect that will be investigated as a Federaoffence, money lauderlby from a registered charity. Naughty boy.
Andy- Poet Laureate & Traveling Bard of NewsFix
- Posts : 6421
Join date : 2013-12-14
Age : 67
Location : Winning the fight to drain the swamp of far right extremists.
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Andy wrote:Trump will be arrested in January, when the Democrats the over. Congress.
I don't know about January. The Democrats will need the time to set things up. I don't think June is too soon.
Gen. Flynn was a favorite of Trump. Indeed, Trump was parroting all the arguments that Flynn's attorneys were putting to the judge. So, when Judge Sullivan slammed Flynn so hard, you can take it as the Judge's attitude toward the whole Trump cabal, his surrogates. It's kinda like when Judge Sirica came down heavily on the Watergate burglars...it was like, Oh shit, the president is not going to like this!
As far as the time, Nicko, it hasn't been that long for prosecuting a whole crime family. First, 33 indictments, some with convictions, ain't bad considering the number of people involved. Second, consider all the lying, from the President on down; someone who lies creates ten times the work, to track down contradictory evidence and build a case for intentionality.
Third, you have heard occasionally about the 'hidden' case going on. Remember all of those redactions in the sentencing reports? There is something going on in that third, 'hidden' case that may be taking up a lot of time. All we know is that it is a counter-intelligence case--hence, they are not speaking about it. But when Judge Sullivan today said to Flynn that he was a 'sell out to his country' and asked, why hasn't he been charged with treason(?) we can all take a hint.
It's my theory that Putin was staffing the President's cabinet, and Flynn at National Security, and Rex Tillerson at State, were Russian picks. If so, this sticks in Judge Sullivan's craw...and he wants some blood. Flynn is going to do time...it's my estimation. A lot of the President's men are going down, and I don't think the judiciary is going to buy the presidential pardons.
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
When are all the pro EU remainer MPs going to be charged with treason for trying to stop the British people's decision to leave the EU...?
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Tommy Monk wrote:When are all the pro EU remainer MPs going to be charged with treason for trying to stop the British people's decision to leave the EU...?
Treason is defined as: "the crime of betraying one's country," or "a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign" or "the betrayal of a trust or confidence". https://www.dictionary.com/browse/treason It involves "knowing" and "intending" as those terms are used in law.
The decision to enter into a trade agreement is a policy decision. Is it your contention that entering the EU rose to the level of treason? If so, I would like to hear you make that case.
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Saying the EU was/is just a simple trade agreement is the big lie... this is where the betrayal has been... And the violation of sovereignty...
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Tommy Monk wrote:Saying the EU was/is just a simple trade agreement is the big lie... this is where the betrayal has been... And the violation of sovereignty...
Would you care to elaborate? What, in your mind, is the EU? What are the specific facts of the betrayal. What are the specific acts of the pro-EU remainer MP's to which you point?
I don't want to write your indictment for you. Let's hear it from you.
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
The EU is a political entity, formed with the aim of becoming a federal govt and taking control of the national parliaments.
It is all now openly admitted by EU to be actively working towards "ever closer union" which means ever increasing control.
Those in UK govts who signed up to the treaties that created this and allowed this, knew full well that this was what they were signing away, but only ever denied these facts and only ever said that the treaties were "just amending treaties that tidied up loose ends" etc... And the pro remainer MPs and people are trying to perpetuate this betrayal of our country.
It is all now openly admitted by EU to be actively working towards "ever closer union" which means ever increasing control.
Those in UK govts who signed up to the treaties that created this and allowed this, knew full well that this was what they were signing away, but only ever denied these facts and only ever said that the treaties were "just amending treaties that tidied up loose ends" etc... And the pro remainer MPs and people are trying to perpetuate this betrayal of our country.
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Tommy Monk wrote:The EU is a political entity, formed with the aim of becoming a federal govt and taking control of the national parliaments.
It is all now openly admitted by EU to be actively working towards "ever closer union" which means ever increasing control.
Those in UK govts who signed up to the treaties that created this and allowed this, knew full well that this was what they were signing away, but only ever denied these facts and only ever said that the treaties were "just amending treaties that tidied up loose ends" etc... And the pro remainer MPs and people are trying to perpetuate this betrayal of our country.
I don't think that the EU is what you say it is. Proof is in your lack of substantiation, which leaves anyone saying: So you say, boss!
I think the EU may have been a bit overzealous, and understandably the more advanced nations of Europe are a bit insulted at the paternalistic attitude and condescension of the EU. That amounts to attitude and policy differences, not to treason.
One alternative might have been to work from inside the EU, to change the institution from within. You already have the advantage of being the most advanced European nation. What were you doing wrong that you failed? Or, did you let your lesser angels simply take over?
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
The EU is completely what I say it is... you obviously don't know that much about it all...!
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Quill, we were "sold down the River" by succeeding PM's who were only looking to feather their own nests.
I can't imagine Mrs Thatcher standing for the humiliation hosted on us by unelected bullies, she would have "Handbagged the lot of 'em ! None of them have looked out for the British since she went !
I can't imagine Mrs Thatcher standing for the humiliation hosted on us by unelected bullies, she would have "Handbagged the lot of 'em ! None of them have looked out for the British since she went !
nicko- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 13368
Join date : 2013-12-07
Age : 83
Location : rainbow bridge
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
There is a REAL PRIME MINISTER .
nicko- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 13368
Join date : 2013-12-07
Age : 83
Location : rainbow bridge
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Thatcher saw what was going on and said "No no no"...
She was then ousted by the pro EU numpties and John major came in to sign Maastricht treaty that set it all up... then Blair and Brown signed the rest of it up...
She was then ousted by the pro EU numpties and John major came in to sign Maastricht treaty that set it all up... then Blair and Brown signed the rest of it up...
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
nicko wrote:There is a REAL PRIME MINISTER .
Funny to hear Les wafffle on about Labour being the party of pro woman and Tory being against woman's rights... when Tory have had two female prime minister's and Labour have had none!
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Bliar and brown ,
nicko- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 13368
Join date : 2013-12-07
Age : 83
Location : rainbow bridge
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Judge Sullivan may be the first time the anti-Trumpster strikes back. Since the election in 2016, all we have heard is: fear the Trump base...fear the Trump base.
But the pollsters have been advising us that the Trump base is anywhere from 24% to 40%, but in any event nowhere near a majority. No one--the Republicans especially--wanted to take that inverse majority out for a spin. I've always thought we could simply kick the Trumpster base's ass if we just stepped into the ring (to mix my sports metaphors). Now, first election out of the gate, and I am proved correct.
Obviously, Judge Sullivan was of a like mind. He saw what I saw...that base is feckless, and growing smaller each day. Nancy Pelosi delivered to Trump the perfect epitaph for his base: “Please don’t characterize the strength that I bring to this meeting as the leader of the House Democrats, who just won a big victory.”
Ain't nothing like power to kick the ass of presumption!
But the pollsters have been advising us that the Trump base is anywhere from 24% to 40%, but in any event nowhere near a majority. No one--the Republicans especially--wanted to take that inverse majority out for a spin. I've always thought we could simply kick the Trumpster base's ass if we just stepped into the ring (to mix my sports metaphors). Now, first election out of the gate, and I am proved correct.
Obviously, Judge Sullivan was of a like mind. He saw what I saw...that base is feckless, and growing smaller each day. Nancy Pelosi delivered to Trump the perfect epitaph for his base: “Please don’t characterize the strength that I bring to this meeting as the leader of the House Democrats, who just won a big victory.”
Ain't nothing like power to kick the ass of presumption!
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
nicko wrote:Quill, we were "sold down the River" by succeeding PM's who were only looking to feather their own nests.
Well, STUPID YOU! How the hell did you, a citizen of the strongest and wealthiest nation on the Continent, get sold anywhere?? Is this the culmination of you guys sucking on the US tit too long?
Grow up! Your acting just like the wimps that got you into this mess. Oh...boo hoo, boo hoo...they are all hurting me. One of the nice things about democracy is you can kick back. So, stop cowering in the gutter and get up and fight for yourself.
How the populists love the underdog role!
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
We have decided to leave in the referendum.
Any mps obstructing this should be held for treason!
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Quill, what exactly can I do about it ? please give me the benefit of your vast knowledge about how the "little man" can change things on his own ?
nicko- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 13368
Join date : 2013-12-07
Age : 83
Location : rainbow bridge
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
nicko wrote:Quill, what exactly can I do about it ? please give me the benefit of your vast knowledge about how the "little man" can change things on his own ?
Good question. Not being intimate with your system, my answer would be uninformed. But if I were to be asked the same question over here, I would say...
...go to meetings. Learn locally. Volunteer at the level you want to make changes. Who do you know who is involved in Brexit, if that is your issue? Call your mp. Never pass up an opportunity. Volunteer, if s/he is the right party. If you are home bound, get involved in some telephone/internet campaigns. Write, write, write...newspapers, blogs, letters (contacts are everything). The world and mankind is social (no matter what the individualists say), so rub elbows, talk, communicate. write...get together. That's politics.
One day, out of the blue, you will find yourself in the perfect position.
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
quiII...we DID do something...we voted OUT.....
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
And quill... where do you think UKIP came from...!?
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Lord Foul wrote:quiII...we DID do something...we voted OUT.....
That's what I've been trying to suggest, in not too subtle terms. You can't just vote for something and then sit back and wait. Voting is just the authorization. You've got to have people in place to make it happen.
What was it that Captain Picard would say? "Make it so!"
It's almost as if you guys are too genteel for today's kind of politics.
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Do you recommend an "uprising" ?
nicko- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 13368
Join date : 2013-12-07
Age : 83
Location : rainbow bridge
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Quill... what more can we do at this stage???
We had UKIP win the EU elections... then UKIP got 4 million votes in the 2015 UK gen elections, which was more votes than the lib dems and snp combined, while Tory and Labour each got just over double the number of votes at around 10 million each, and with massive numbers of Labour and Tory supporters also unhappy with the UK being in the EU and demanding a say on it in a referendum... this forced a referendum on the issue, with 17.4 million people voting to leave!!!
Politicians since then have not only agreed that they accept the referendum result, and declared that they would honour the decision and deliver it... but both Tory and Labour MPs were elected on manifesto pledges to do so in the 2017 general election too!!!
With around 2/3 labour and Tory mps now in parliament representing constituencies who voted leave!!!
MPs also voted overwhelmingly in favour of activating our article 50 notification of intent to leave the EU too!!!
So... please understand... when I use such strong terms as "betrayal" and "treason" towards certain politicians... I am not doing so lightly or without tangible good reason...!
We had UKIP win the EU elections... then UKIP got 4 million votes in the 2015 UK gen elections, which was more votes than the lib dems and snp combined, while Tory and Labour each got just over double the number of votes at around 10 million each, and with massive numbers of Labour and Tory supporters also unhappy with the UK being in the EU and demanding a say on it in a referendum... this forced a referendum on the issue, with 17.4 million people voting to leave!!!
Politicians since then have not only agreed that they accept the referendum result, and declared that they would honour the decision and deliver it... but both Tory and Labour MPs were elected on manifesto pledges to do so in the 2017 general election too!!!
With around 2/3 labour and Tory mps now in parliament representing constituencies who voted leave!!!
MPs also voted overwhelmingly in favour of activating our article 50 notification of intent to leave the EU too!!!
So... please understand... when I use such strong terms as "betrayal" and "treason" towards certain politicians... I am not doing so lightly or without tangible good reason...!
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
nicko wrote:Do you recommend an "uprising" ?
If that means rising up out of that soft chair, and contacting people...yes.
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Tommy Monk wrote:Quill... what more can we do at this stage???
Yes...and apparently your support skipped town. Like Trump, you never expected to win. Also like Trump, you had goals to carry through, but no one to implement them.
So, all the actors on your project are people who opposed the goal...which leaves your cause with no energy and a steep hill to climb.
I would say at this point you have nothing. I mean, you may have a nice architect's rendering, but no blueprints and no engineers...and certainly, no workers to "make it so".
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
No... the support hasn't skipped town... or gone anywhere...
Just some treachery and betrayal being demonstrated by some politicians... who seem to have forgotten who they are supposed to be serving...
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Judge Sullivan stuns Gen. Flynn: "You sold out your country!"
Tommy Monk wrote:
No... the support hasn't skipped town... or gone anywhere...
Just some treachery and betrayal being demonstrated by some politicians... who seem to have forgotten who they are supposed to be serving...
"Treachery?" "Betrayal?" If you don't know what's going on you are in that lower echelon of toryism.
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Similar topics
» Trump was told by Flynn himself he was being investigated by FBI
» Ex-Nat. Security Chief Flynn pleads guilty
» Starving, sold to paedophiles or simply abandoned: How Venezuela's children are paying a terrible price for their country's failed socialist experiment
» Judge says SORRY as he gives £110,000 payout to African refugee jailed twice for sex attacks after he was locked up for too long when his home country refused to take him back
» Report: Flynn ‘Denied’ Sanctions Talk in FBI Interview
» Ex-Nat. Security Chief Flynn pleads guilty
» Starving, sold to paedophiles or simply abandoned: How Venezuela's children are paying a terrible price for their country's failed socialist experiment
» Judge says SORRY as he gives £110,000 payout to African refugee jailed twice for sex attacks after he was locked up for too long when his home country refused to take him back
» Report: Flynn ‘Denied’ Sanctions Talk in FBI Interview
Page 1 of 1
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:28 pm by Ben Reilly
» TOTAL MADNESS Great British Railway Journeys among shows flagged by counter terror scheme ‘for encouraging far-right sympathies
Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:14 pm by Tommy Monk
» Interesting COVID figures
Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:00 am by Tommy Monk
» HAPPY CHRISTMAS.
Sun Jan 01, 2023 7:33 pm by Tommy Monk
» The Fight Over Climate Change is Over (The Greenies Won!)
Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:59 pm by Tommy Monk
» Trump supporter murders wife, kills family dog, shoots daughter
Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:21 am by 'Wolfie
» Quill
Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:28 pm by Tommy Monk
» Algerian Woman under investigation for torture and murder of French girl, 12, whose body was found in plastic case in Paris
Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:04 pm by Tommy Monk
» Wind turbines cool down the Earth (edited with better video link)
Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:19 am by Ben Reilly
» Saying goodbye to our Queen.
Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:02 pm by Maddog
» PHEW.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:33 pm by Syl
» And here's some more enrichment...
Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:46 pm by Ben Reilly
» John F Kennedy Assassination
Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:40 pm by Ben Reilly
» Where is everyone lately...?
Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:33 pm by Ben Reilly
» London violence over the weekend...
Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:19 pm by Tommy Monk
» Why should anyone believe anything that Mo Farah says...!?
Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:44 am by Tommy Monk
» Liverpool Labour defends mayor role poll after turnout was only 3% and they say they will push ahead with the option that was least preferred!!!
Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:11 pm by Tommy Monk
» Labour leader Keir Stammer can't answer the simple question of whether a woman has a penis or not...
Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:58 am by Tommy Monk
» More evidence of remoaners still trying to overturn Brexit... and this is a conservative MP who should be drummed out of the party and out of parliament!
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:50 pm by Tommy Monk
» R Kelly 30 years, Ghislaine Maxwell 20 years... but here in UK...
Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:31 pm by Original Quill