Teenager dies in fifth fatal stabbing in London in less than a week

by Tommy Monk Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:14 pm

A 16-year-old boy has died in the fifth suspected fatal stabbing to the hit the capital in a week.

The young victim was found with suspected stab wounds in Tulse Hill, south London, after police were called to reports of a shooting in Greenleaf Close at 10.53pm.

The suspected murder would bring the number of homicides in London this year to 119, with this the fifth in six days

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/06/teenager-dies-fifth-fatal-stabbing-london-less-week/

Another Labour legacy...

by nicko Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:28 pm

99.9% black, stop and search Black kids would be seen as racist ! But that's the solution, isn't it ?

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:44 pm

nicko wrote:99.9% black, stop and search Black kids would be seen as racist ! But that's the solution, isn't it ?

Why nicko, you've become a racist. What has caused this change?

by nicko Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:46 pm

Not racist Quill, as it seems that most stabbings are Black on Black does it not make sense ?

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:41 pm

nicko wrote:Not racist Quill, as it seems that most stabbings are Black on Black does it not make sense ?

I read the article and it didn't say they were black.

by Tommy Monk Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:07 pm

That article may not tell that truth... but it is a fact that the overwhelming vast majority of perpetrators are black... as are the victims...

by Tommy Monk Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:11 pm

List of London victims...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/uk/london-violence-list-murder-victims-killed-in-the-capital-so-far-this-year/amp/

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:19 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

That article may not tell that truth... but it is a fact that the overwhelming vast majority of perpetrators are black... as are the victims...

Tommy, you know better. Where is your proof? Although your list does identify Russians, it doesn't identify blacks.

by Tommy Monk Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:26 pm

Look at that names...

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:35 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Look at that names...

Names tell me nothing. Where is the list of blacks? Without that, we can't even count them. Methinks you are putting the race before the horse...erm, um, the cart before the horse. Wink

by Tommy Monk Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:41 pm

No... the names tell you an awful lot...

by Tommy Monk Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:43 pm

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/07/pictures-of-the-latest-london-murder-victims-as-police-hunt-for-their-killers-8113709/

Pictures of the latest 5 victims...

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:05 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No... the names tell you an awful lot...

Maybe to white supremacists, who hardly care about the individuals, but not to me.

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:06 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/07/pictures-of-the-latest-london-murder-victims-as-police-hunt-for-their-killers-8113709/

Pictures of the latest 5 victims...

Hahaha...that's all you need for your purposes, eh?

by Syl Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:27 pm

The police have said on numerous occasions that it's a high % of black people, often youngsters that are the victims and the perpetrators of the majority of stabbings in the UK.
They cite gangs and drugs as being the cause of a lot of the trouble.

Its not racist to repeat facts.

"For every 100,000 people in the capital, there were 137 knife offences in 2017-18, with separate figures, from the mayor's office, showing that young black and minority ethnic teenage boys and men were disproportionately affected, as both victims and perpetrators."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42749089

by nicko Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:40 pm

Quill, they are black ! but you are colour blind !
Question Quill, are you Black ?

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:14 pm

Syl wrote:The police have said on numerous occasions that it's a high % of black people, often youngsters that are the victims and the perpetrators of the majority of stabbings in the UK.
They cite gangs and drugs as being the cause of a lot of the trouble.

Its not racist to repeat facts.

But, are you too easy? The police have interests too. I don't believe their conclusions. What % of police are, themselves, anti-immigrant and anti-people-of-color? How many voted Brexit? That would be a good place to start. If you don't ask critical questions, you won't get critical information.

Syl wrote:"For every 100,000 people in the capital, there were 137 knife offences in 2017-18, with separate figures, from the mayor's office, showing that young black and minority ethnic teenage boys and men were disproportionately affected, as both victims and perpetrators."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42749089

Again, no data on blacks. The last people you should trust with figures and statistics are politicians.

by Syl Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:24 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:The police have said on numerous occasions that it's a high % of black people, often youngsters that are the victims and the perpetrators of the majority of stabbings in the UK.
They cite gangs and drugs as being the cause of a lot of the trouble.

Its not racist to repeat facts.

But, are you too easy? The police have interests too. I don't believe their conclusions. What % of police are, themselves, anti-immigrant and anti-people-of-color? How many voted Brexit? If you don't ask critical questions, you won't get critical information.

Syl wrote:"For every 100,000 people in the capital, there were 137 knife offences in 2017-18, with separate figures, from the mayor's office, showing that young black and minority ethnic teenage boys and men were disproportionately affected, as both victims and perpetrators."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42749089

Again, no data on blacks. The last people you should trust with figures and statistics are politicians.

Well if you dont trust police, politicians or stats, just look at the faces as yet another victim is named, then look at the face of the perpetrator when they find him.... a very high % are black......unless you think the photos have all been photoshopped or something. Rolling Eyes

Burying your head in the sand is exactly how crimes against and committed by certain groups are allowed to flourish.
Muslim gangs targeting white kids is a good example of that.

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:44 pm

Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

But, are you too easy? The police have interests too. I don't believe their conclusions. What % of police are, themselves, anti-immigrant and anti-people-of-color? How many voted Brexit? If you don't ask critical questions, you won't get critical information.

Again, no data on blacks. The last people you should trust with figures and statistics are politicians.

Well if you dont trust police, politicians or stats, just look at the faces as yet another victim is named, then look at the face of the perpetrator when they find him.... a very high % are black......unless you think the photos have all been photoshopped or something.

Burying your head in the sand is exactly how crimes against and committed by certain groups are allowed to flourish.
Muslim gangs targeting white kids is a good example of that.

You think I should just eyeball the facts? Not really demand a count? I take it you favor the whites, and dislike the Muslim kids. You see? The police and politicians do the same thing as you...skew the numbers to their advantage. Plus, they are in court much more, and as litigants they are expected to be one-sided. We have an adversarial legal system.

It's not burying the head in the sand to take a skeptical approach to political and legal claims. It's healthy. Look at all the stuff you uncover.
cheers

by Guest Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:50 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:

Well if you dont trust police, politicians or stats, just look at the faces as yet another victim is named, then look at the face of the perpetrator when they find him.... a very high % are black......unless you think the photos have all been photoshopped or something.

Burying your head in the sand is exactly how crimes against and committed by certain groups are allowed to flourish.
Muslim gangs targeting white kids is a good example of that.

You think I should just eyeball the facts? Not really demand a count? I take it you favor the whites, and dislike the Muslim kids. You see? The police and politicians do the same thing as you...skew the numbers to their advantage. Plus, they are in court much more, and as litigants they are expected to be one-sided. We have an adversarial legal system.

It's not burying the head in the sand to take a skeptical approach to political and legal claims. It's healthy. Look at all the stuff you uncover.

Black people in the capital are disproportionately the victims of murder when compared with other groups, new figures have revealed.

A Sky News freedom of information request to every police force in the country showed London was unique when it came to murder statistics.

Almost half of murder victims - as well as suspects - were black despite the ethnic group accounting for just 13% of London's population.

White people in London make up 60% of the population, but only account for 35% of murder victims and 24% of murder suspects.

news.sky.com/story/black-murder-victims-and-suspects-london-v-uk-11443656

by Guest Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:51 pm

by Syl Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:52 pm

Quill, I dont favour whites or none Muslims when it comes to the law, everyone should be treated within the law and fairly....but thats not the point.

The point is it is a FACT that a high % of knife crime in the UK, especially the capital, is done by black on black, drugs and gangs being the main cause.
Thats according to the police, the politicians, the stats....and the faces of the people involved splashed across the papers everytime it happens.

Course, you can do the ostrich thing if you prefer Quill....each to their own.

Off for the night. x

by Guest Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:54 pm

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:55 pm

Syl wrote:The point is it is a FACT that a high % of knife crime in the UK, especially the capital, is done by black on black

It's a fact you can't back up with credible evidence. That's what we've been discussing.

G'nite.

by Guest Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:55 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:The point is it is a FACT that a high % of knife crime in the UK, especially the capital, is done by black on black

It's a fact you can't back up with credible evidence. That's what we've been discussing.

G'nite.

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by Victorismyhero Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:58 pm

quill is the race equivalent of a flat earther

by Guest Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:01 pm

Lord Foul wrote:quill is the race equivalent of a flat earther

+1

by Guest Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:03 pm

What I will add is this problem is not reflected through the rest of the country with blacks.

So what is it with London, that is causing this to be so different from the rest of the nation?

Drug gangs?

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by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:49 pm

Lord Foul wrote:quill is the race equivalent of a flat earther

Which race? What is the equivalency you are trying to set up?

by Tommy Monk Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:54 pm

Phildidge wrote:What I will add is this problem is not reflected through the rest of the country with blacks.

So what is it with London, that is causing this to be so different from the rest of the nation?

Drug gangs?

Large numbers of them dominate certain areas of London... with years of left wing apologists making excuses for their behaviour, instead of dealing with them early on... And police having their hands tied by lefty political correct attitudes meaning they can't arrest too many blacks in case it makes blacks look bad and police look racist...

Doing away with stop and search was a big mistake too... thanks again to the lefties for that brilliant idea...

by Vintage Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:21 pm

The majority of parents that are shown on tv attending memorials, being interviewed or making appeals are black, of course that doesn't mean their children are black they could all be adopting Caucasian kids.

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:36 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Large numbers of them dominate certain areas of London... with years of left wing apologists making excuses for their behaviour, instead of dealing with them early on... And police having their hands tied by lefty political correct attitudes meaning they can't arrest too many blacks in case it makes blacks look bad and police look racist...

Left wingers didn't create the ghettos. If there's one thing we know on this side of the pond, it's how segregation works. You guys put them in the ghettos, and right now you want your police to keep them there.

To your small credit, your police and LW politicians see what you are tying to do--hell, they watched it happen over here--and they are casting about for ways to not repeat the same pattern.

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:40 pm

Vintage wrote:The majority of parents that are shown on tv attending memorials, being interviewed or making appeals are black, of course that doesn't mean their children are black they could all be adopting Caucasian kids.

Your statistical population is tv funeral attendees? Rolling Eyes

by eddie Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:00 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No... the names tell you an awful lot...

Names aren’t evidence, Tommy.

by Victorismyhero Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:25 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:quill is the race equivalent of a flat earther

Which race? What is the equivalency you are trying to set up?

dumbass

you are to matters of race what the flat earther is to matters of geography and astronomy Rolling Eyes

by 'Wolfie Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:39 pm

Phildidge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

It's a fact you can't back up with credible evidence. That's what we've been discussing.

G'nite.

Look at the figures...

48% of the victims are "black"...

Tommy , Vintage and Sly claimed a great majority were supposedly "black";
Nicko went as far as to state "99.9%"..

Both claims are gross exaggerations, then Victor swans in to personally abuse Quill without actually adding anything new to the discussion.

Even then, I will bet that the great majority of those "48% Black" are mostly varying shades of Brown with very few (if any..) genuinely black-skinned among them !!!

by Original Quill Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:46 pm

And where's the source? Sky News didn't go around London counting heads. WTF...doesn't anyone have a source?

by Tommy Monk Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:19 am

eddie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:No... the names tell you an awful lot...

Names aren’t evidence, Tommy.

No...?

Ok... one poor victim was called 'Yaya Mbye'...

Now... is that a typical name for a white British person...???

Or... do you think that is a name that an African origin person wold have...???

So... what ethnicity do you think this poor victim was likely to have been...?

The list is full of non typical white British names...!

What does that tell you...???

by Ben Reilly Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:33 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
eddie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:No... the names tell you an awful lot...

Names aren’t evidence, Tommy.

No...?

Ok... one poor victim was called 'Yaya Mbye'...

Now... is that a typical name for a white British person...???

Or... do you think that is a name that an African origin person wold have...???

So... what ethnicity do you think this poor victim was likely to have been...?

The list is full of non typical white British names...!

What does that tell you...???

Three questions:

* How many people are on the list who have names like that?

* What percentage of the London population do they make up?

* What percentage of the world population does the population of London make up?

Quick now, get on your horse.

by eddie Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:36 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
eddie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:No... the names tell you an awful lot...

Names aren’t evidence, Tommy.

No...?

Ok... one poor victim was called 'Yaya Mbye'...

Now... is that a typical name for a white British person...???

Or... do you think that is a name that an African origin person wold have...???

So... what ethnicity do you think this poor victim was likely to have been...?

The list is full of non typical white British names...!

What does that tell you...???

It tells me that probably, that person isn’t white. But I still need evidence.
Names aren’t evidence.

by Tommy Monk Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:39 am

Also... LBC radio were saying, about an hour ago, that there has been a load more stabbings in London in the last 24 hours... 5 stabbings in the last 24 hours in London... they didn't say the seriousness of injuries of the victims, or if any were life threatening or fatalities...

by Tommy Monk Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:48 am

eddie wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

No...?

Ok... one poor victim was called 'Yaya Mbye'...

Now... is that a typical name for a white British person...???

Or... do you think that is a name that an African origin person wold have...???

So... what ethnicity do you think this poor victim was likely to have been...?

The list is full of non typical white British names...!

What does that tell you...???

It tells me that probably, that person isn’t white. But I still need evidence.
Names aren’t evidence.

How about this poor murdered victim...

Kwabena Nelson...?

Or...

Promise Nkenda...?

Or...

Kelvin Odunuyi...?

There are an awful lot of Muslim names on that list too...

Why are you trying to deny the ethnicity of the victims...???

by Syl Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:21 am

It's not easy to get 2018 government stats re knife crime and ethnicity of victims and perpetrators, but listen to interviews police give when discussing knife crime in the UK, especially in the London area. They usually emphasise that the highest percentage of these crimes are gang/drug related, and black kids are the victims.

If you dont trust police, just watch the news or read the papers when another fatal stabbing happens in London.

Here are some faces to put to the names. Murder victims (not all by knives) in London for the first 4 months of 2018.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5965806/49-murder-victims-london-in-2018/

by Guest Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:20 am

Original Quill wrote:And where's the source? Sky News didn't go around London counting heads. WTF...doesn't anyone have a source?

Try reading links, before you embarress yourself further

Sky news obtained this as anyone can, through the "Freedom of Information act"

This means they obtained the numbers and data from the Police

This all on record

The people that have died, and those who are suspects

So in fact Tommy, Vintage, Syl etc are all correct that in London, the majority of victims and suspects are black

Your view proves what is wrong with the left, you want to deny that there is a problem

I showed that this is not reflected for the rest of the country and hence want to look at why London is a problem and not the rest of the country

This is why people do not listen to idiots on the left anymore, when they ignore problems.

by Guest Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:26 am

Original Quill wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Large numbers of them dominate certain areas of London... with years of left wing apologists making excuses for their behaviour, instead of dealing with them early on... And police having their hands tied by lefty political correct attitudes meaning they can't arrest too many blacks in case it makes blacks look bad and police look racist...

Left wingers didn't create the ghettos. If there's one thing we know on this side of the pond, it's how segregation works. You guys put them in the ghettos, and right now you want your police to keep them there.

To your small credit, your police and LW politicians see what you are tying to do--hell, they watched it happen over here--and they are casting about for ways to not repeat the same pattern.

Yes they did create ghettos, through mass immigration and how they placed that immigration into areas, that have since become and turned into ghetto's

That was all down to Labour policy and also with the worst view going as to why they did. The philosophy, was that they could turn this into votes for themselves

So your views around these crimes have a connection to Brexit and the people, is about as idiotic, as claims by flat earthers

People like you are why peopl are turning in droves further to the right

These people are not racist, but are sick to death of listening to left wing idiots like yourself, continue to spout as big and as much crap as you do

You know fuck all about the UK, and as per usual stick your uneducated views on the rest of us

Well untill you have an understand, then expect people will continue to ridicule you for your extreme stupidity on this matter

by nicko Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:50 am

I asked Quill if he was Black, he never answered !

by 'Wolfie Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:55 am

Tommy keeps on fallaciously yapping on about "black" and "white" skinned British persons...

Once again proving himself the biggest and slimiest racist cnut on NF today..

And with the usual white supremacist twonks cheering him on !

Que surprise !

by Syl Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:15 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Tommy keeps on fallaciously yapping on about "black" and "white" skinned British persons...

Once again proving himself the biggest and slimiest racist cnut on NF today..

And with the usual white supremacist twonks cheering him on !

Que surprise !

And wetwipe as usual derails a thread by offering nothing but personal insults.. Rolling Eyes

by Tommy Monk Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:23 pm

The news media here at the moment are all bringing on people from the 'community' who are affected by these stabbings, to talk about what's happening and why and how to stop it etc... interesting that all these 'community' speakers are black...

Funny that...

by Original Quill Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:01 pm

nicko wrote:I asked Quill if he was Black, he never answered !

I thought you were not serious. After all, what difference does it make?

Do you perceive it as an insult? I don't. That must be the case because you've heard me say a thousand times I'm 2nd-generation Scot, with a family castle no less. Very few blacks in the Scottish Isles. So by calling me black you can only reckon that it's an insult.

Well, it's not an insult to me. The only thing it tells me is you think it's an insult! And if you think it's an insult, you must be a racist. So, why would I respond just to call your racism out? We already know all about that.

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