Brazil elects new president - Why are the left wing BBC and guardian claiming he is 'far right'...?

Tommy Monk wrote:

All I've said is that many of those who are labelled as 'far right' are actually very left wing socialist in their policies...

Tommy Monk wrote:Its those here who claim people are far right, who cannot define it properly... as most of those are actually left wing socialist in their policies...


I know what left wing socialist policies are, and these are clearly exhibited by most of those who are mis-labled as far right...

Tommy Monk wrote:Its those here who claim people are far right, who cannot define it properly... as most of those are actually left wing socialist in their policies...

Contrary to major Plato scholars of his day, Popper divorced Plato's ideas from those of Socrates, claiming that the former in his later years expressed none of the humanitarian and democratic tendencies of his teacher. In particular, Popper accuses Plato of betraying Socrates in the Republic, wherein Plato portrays Socrates sympathizing with totalitarianism (see: Socratic problem).

Popper extols Plato's analysis of social change and discontent, naming him as a great sociologist, yet rejects his solutions. This is dependent on Popper's reading of the emerging humanitarian ideals of Athenian democracy as the birth pangs of his coveted "open society". Plato's hatred of democracy led him, says Popper, "to defend lying, political miracles, tabooistic superstition, the suppression of truth, and ultimately, brutal violence." Popper feels that Plato's historicist ideas are driven by a fear of the change that liberal democracies bring about. Also, as an aristocrat and a relative of one-time Athenian dictator Critias, Plato according to Popper was sympathetic to the oligarchs of his own day and contemptuous of the common man. Popper also suspects that Plato was the victim of his own vanity, and had wished to become the supreme Philosopher King of his vision.

Tommy Monk wrote:And quill... it is the other way round... lefties think that all things left are good and anything right is nasty and bad... the mislabeling and misrepresentation of many as far right helps them to think that way...

Tommy Monk wrote:however I don't support left wing govts becoming to big or them trying to enforce their pet agendas and it is wrong for them to take extra taxes than necessary off everyone in order to pay for it...

Tommy Monk wrote:Wolf... I have defined a few of the so called far right as actually being left socialist in their policy...


And quill... it is the other way round... lefties think that all things left are good and anything right is nasty and bad... the mislabeling and misrepresentation of many as far right helps them to think that way...

I myself have often said that I am in favour of there being govt and taxes and public services, and I am also in favour of govt regulation of private businesses to ensure they operate fairly and responsibly as well as ensuring workers rights and protections etc... however I don't support left wing govts becoming to big or them trying to enforce their pet agendas and it is wrong for them to take extra taxes than necessary off everyone in order to pay for it...

Eilzel wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Wolf... I have defined a few of the so called far right as actually being left socialist in their policy...


And quill... it is the other way round... lefties think that all things left are good and anything right is nasty and bad... the mislabeling and misrepresentation of many as far right helps them to think that way...

I myself have often said that I am in favour of there being govt and taxes and public services, and I am also in favour of govt regulation of private businesses to ensure they operate fairly and responsibly as well as ensuring workers rights and protections etc... however I don't support left wing govts becoming to big or them trying to enforce their pet agendas and it is wrong for them to take extra taxes than necessary off everyone in order to pay for it...

Actually, lefties here acknowledge the problems of the left, from SJWs on University campuses to the crimes of Mao and Stalin. You are the one who cannot explain the difference between Far Right and Left and as Quill says, just want to paint everything bad as leftist.

So, what defines the Far Right?